Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo-project Digest, Vol 28, Issue 282

2010-08-30 Thread James Ladd
Hi Eliot, I cant use those thinks because im not in Smalltalk at the time, im in Java on the JVM. (Did someone say 'challenge') I thought about the store question in the shower this morning and I think it means take the top of the stack but dont pop it. Please let me know if Im wrong? Rgs,

[Pharo-project] UbiquiTalk running in Pharo 1.1

2010-08-30 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
I haven't done much with it, and there are some deprecation warnings, but it's running. In the attached screenshot, the host 2 entry in the Detected Hosts window is the Squeak 4.1 image running on the right.

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Levente Uzonyi
(sorry, pine can't quote your mail correctly...) On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote: El lun, 30-08-2010 a las 13:06 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió: What I get from Andreas' words is that he's willing to make it open source if it won't be forked. This is plain wrong,

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo-project Digest, Vol 28, Issue 282

2010-08-30 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi James, 2010/8/30 James Ladd james_l...@hotmail.com Hi Eliot, I cant use those thinks because im not in Smalltalk at the time, im in Java on the JVM. Ah, OK. Now I understand. (Did someone say 'challenge') I thought about the store question in the shower this morning and I think

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Henrik Johansen wrote: On Aug 30, 2010, at 2:57 47PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Henrik Johansen wrote: On Aug 30, 2010, at 1:06 10PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I suggest that the people that want and know,

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Friedrich Dominicus wrote: Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu writes: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I suggest that the people that want and know, group together and build an open-source one. Why do you have to have your own library? Did I say pharo

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:25 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Friedrich Dominicus wrote: Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu writes: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I suggest that the people that want and know, group together and build an open-source

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Henrik Johansen wrote: snip MediumDoc is a pure ascii ByteString of size 4096 [1 to: 10 do: [:ix |MediumDoc squeakToUtf8]] timeToRun 362 384 [1 to: 10 do: [:ix | MediumDoc convertToEncoding: 'utf-8']] timeToRun 437 564

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
GPL is designed to hold people (mostly commercial interests) hostage. Some of what is going on here sounds the same: it's open but not really. A web client is not so terribly difficult to write that we should compromise on licensing in order to use one. I have a *terribly* simple one that I

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote: El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:25 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Friedrich Dominicus wrote: Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu writes: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I suggest that the people that want

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: GPL is designed to hold people (mostly commercial interests) hostage. Some of what is going on here sounds the same: it's open but not really. A web client is not so terribly difficult to write that we should compromise on licensing in order to

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Nicolas Cellier wrote: Hi Pharoers, snip Come-on guys, despite Levente's cutting remark, you're not inferior to squeakers ;) (and you don't have to answer to that stupid conclusion). Uh, what remark? Nicolas snip ___

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 31.08.2010 00:34, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Henrik Johansen wrote: snip MediumDoc is a pure ascii ByteString of size 4096 [1 to: 10 do: [:ix |MediumDoc squeakToUtf8]] timeToRun 362 384 [1 to: 10 do: [:ix | MediumDoc

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2010/8/31 Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Nicolas Cellier wrote: Hi Pharoers, snip Come-on guys, despite Levente's cutting remark, you're not inferior to squeakers ;) (and you don't have to answer to that stupid conclusion). Uh, what remark? Oh, you know, the

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:43 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote: El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:25 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Friedrich Dominicus wrote: Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu writes: On Mon, 30

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Nicolas Cellier
2010/8/31 Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com: 2010/8/31 Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Nicolas Cellier wrote: Hi Pharoers, snip Come-on guys, despite Levente's cutting remark, you're not inferior to squeakers ;) (and you don't have to answer to that

Re: [Pharo-project] return character magic?

2010-08-30 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:44 +0200, Henrik Sperre Johansen escribió: On 30.08.2010 22:05, Nicolas Cellier wrote: 2010/8/30 Stéphane Ducassestephane.duca...@inria.fr: On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Johan Brichau wrote: so what did you do? I see that the file got removed... I will

Re: [Pharo-project] return character magic?

2010-08-30 Thread Nicolas Cellier
Henrik, you must be a kind of sorcerer or maybe a devil! Nicolas 2010/8/31 Henrik Sperre Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no:  On 30.08.2010 22:05, Nicolas Cellier wrote: 2010/8/30 Stéphane Ducassestephane.duca...@inria.fr: On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Johan Brichau wrote: so what did

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: snip Yeah, that's why I added the 20 4KB docs / sec number. I really doubt the conversion will be a significant part of the processing time if what you send out is so small you are able to convert 800k messages per second... It depends

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Nicolas Cellier wrote: 2010/8/31 Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Nicolas Cellier wrote: Hi Pharoers, snip Come-on guys, despite Levente's cutting remark, you're not inferior to squeakers ;) (and you don't have to answer to that stupid conclusion).

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Levente Uzonyi
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote: El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:43 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez wrote: El mar, 31-08-2010 a las 00:25 +0200, Levente Uzonyi escribió: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010, Friedrich Dominicus wrote:

Re: [Pharo-project] return character magic?

2010-08-30 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Henrik, twice you write a slip that the compiler should not allow: (map := characterToGlyphMap) ifNotNil: [:map | code := map at: code + 1]. code := (map := characterToGlyphMap) ifNil: [aCharacter charCode] ifNotNil: [:map | map at: aCharacter charCode + 1] these should read

Re: [Pharo-project] return character magic?

2010-08-30 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 31.08.2010 01:32, Eliot Miranda wrote: Hi Henrik, twice you write a slip that the compiler should not allow: (map := characterToGlyphMap) ifNotNil: [:map | code := map at: code + 1]. code := (map := characterToGlyphMap) ifNil: [aCharacter charCode] ifNotNil: [:map | map at: aCharacter

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Henrik Sperre Johansen
On 31.08.2010 01:21, Levente Uzonyi wrote: On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote: snip Yeah, that's why I added the 20 4KB docs / sec number. I really doubt the conversion will be a significant part of the processing time if what you send out is so small you are able to

Re: [Pharo-project] return character magic?

2010-08-30 Thread Eliot Miranda
2010/8/30 Henrik Sperre Johansen henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no On 31.08.2010 01:32, Eliot Miranda wrote: Hi Henrik, twice you write a slip that the compiler should not allow: (map := characterToGlyphMap) ifNotNil: [:map | code := map at: code + 1]. code := (map :=

Re: [Pharo-project] SerialPort - named ports on Linux

2010-08-30 Thread Serge Stinckwich
To be tested : http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1057 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote: Hello all, I recalled seeing mention of the Linux vm's now supporting named ports, and I found the code for that, at least in the vm.  My

Re: [Pharo-project] OBMorphicIcons (was Re: this style looks cool)

2010-08-30 Thread Rob Rothwell
Thanks both of you for pointing me in the right direction. I was able to get something similar to what is in OBMorphicIconsbreakpoint by doing this: methodContents := WriteStream on: ''. (OBMorphicIcons iconNamed: #breakpoint) storeOn: methodContents. methodContents inspect. But the contents

Re: [Pharo-project] SerialPort - named ports on Linux

2010-08-30 Thread David T. Lewis
Sure, I think that should work fine. Dave On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 04:27:15PM -0400, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: Dave, It's not obvious to me that Pharo won't take strings, but it looks that way because Squeak 4.1 has tests on type and by-name methods that are not in Pharo. One thought I had

Re: [Pharo-project] SerialPort - named ports on Linux

2010-08-30 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Are the VM changes you mention the ones that exist now in the Linux VM? From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Serge Stinckwich [serge.stinckw...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 30,

Re: [Pharo-project] WebClient-Core port to Pharo 1.1 final

2010-08-30 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
Levente, I stand by the analogy of GPL's history and the more emotional undertones of the current discussion. Dismissing it won't make it go away. Bill From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr]

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