On 17 August 2011 00:41, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote:
Marcus, is there a way to catch the errors when SqueakSource is down so that
to avoid false alarms ?
Gofer new
disableRepositoryErrors;
...
and everything loads silently from the package-cache.
Lukas
I would like to complain a bit about the current way Metacello configurations
are distributed in different repositories. I ended up using the wrong
configuration for two different projects twice in just two days. Apart from the
date in the configuration file (and possibly the version number,
Do I hear remote tools ?
Laurent
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr
wrote:
This clearly opens the door to really amazing experiment.
Stef
*From: *Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com
*Date: *August 16, 2011 8:58:03 PM GMT+02:00
*To: *The
Bernat,
You could try to use the Finder to search the source(s) for this string or
parts of it.
I couldn't find it in my image…
Sven
On 17 Aug 2011, at 07:32, Bernat Romagosa wrote:
Hi list,
I think I asked this a while ago but never managed to find a solution, so
here we go:
I have
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.bewrote:
Bernat,
You could try to use the Finder to search the source(s) for this string or
parts of it.
I couldn't find it in my image…
That's an assert that is failing in the VM side.
index = 0 index = numSignalRequests
BTW...your VM is quite old. Why don't you give a try with a new one?
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck
marianop...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.bewrote:
Bernat,
You could try to use the Finder to search the
On 17 August 2011 08:59, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote:
Some people seem to have adopted MetacelloRepository as the standard
repository for all configurations, others keep the configuration for a
project in the project repositories and a third group uses both repositories
(where one
On 17 Aug 2011, at 09:35, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
BTW, is not this the problem of Sempahores or I don't know what that you need
to change/make bigger in Cog ?
Probably, http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4505
Hendrik fixed it for 1.4
You can manually extend the table in
Thanks all! So I extended the table, let's see how it holds up now!
Mariano, I know the vm's a little bit old, but I had already tried updating
to the latest one and still had the same problem. Will update it anyway now
that I noticed :)
Thanks again!
Cheers,
2011/8/17 Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 16.08.2011 19:51, Igor Stasenko wrote:
Hello,
i know that we're already having #deprecated: , #deprecated: on: in: etc
but one thing what i think useful about annotations that it is a way
to indicate that method is deprecated without showing a warning.
The problem with using
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Philippe Marschall wrote:
On 16.08.2011 19:51, Igor Stasenko wrote:
Hello,
i know that we're already having #deprecated: , #deprecated: on: in: etc
but one thing what i think useful about annotations that it is a way
to indicate that method is deprecated without showing
On 17 August 2011 14:23, Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com wrote:
What you think?
How would that help anybody to find out whether they are relying on
deprecated methods? This seems like a big step backwards form a user
point of view. Suddenly a method is gone and you didn't get a warning.
You
On 16.08.2011 23:07, Dale Henrichs wrote:
Doru,
The 'Base' group defines the minimal set of packages for Seaside (it does not
include OB)... The only thing that you need in addition to 'Base' is to
decide which of the Adaptors you want to use and you can have a perfectly
functioning
On 17.08.2011 14:24, Igor Stasenko wrote:
On 17 August 2011 14:14, Philippe Marschall kus...@gmx.net wrote:
On 16.08.2011 19:51, Igor Stasenko wrote:
Hello,
i know that we're already having #deprecated: , #deprecated: on: in: etc
but one thing what i think useful about annotations that it
On 17 August 2011 14:26, Levente Uzonyi le...@elte.hu wrote:
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Philippe Marschall wrote:
On 16.08.2011 19:51, Igor Stasenko wrote:
Hello,
i know that we're already having #deprecated: , #deprecated: on: in: etc
but one thing what i think useful about annotations that it
How would that help anybody to find out whether they are relying on
deprecated methods? This seems like a big step backwards form a user
point of view. Suddenly a method is gone and you didn't get a warning.
You are you supposed to check for deprecated methods? Debug each and
every one of
On Aug 17, 2011, at 2:40 34PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
How would that help anybody to find out whether they are relying on
deprecated methods? This seems like a big step backwards form a user
point of view. Suddenly a method is gone and you didn't get a warning.
You are you supposed to check
Trouble with SqS again:
JQWidgetBox-Dynatree-Core-tbn.1.mcz
JQWidgetBox-Dynatree-Core-tbn.2.mcz
JQWidgetBox-Dynatree-Core-tbn.3.mcz
JQWidgetBox-Dynatree-Dev-tbn.1.mcz
JQWidgetBox-Dynatree-Dev-tbn.2.mcz
JQWidgetBox-Dynatree-Dev-tbn.3.mcz
I saved them yesterday to SqS - then later Squeaksource
I will try to run a script that should fix it now. So SS will be down for
some minuts
cheers,
Fabrizio
2011/8/17 Torsten Bergmann asta...@gmx.de
Trouble with SqS again:
JQWidgetBox-Dynatree-Core-tbn.1.mcz
JQWidgetBox-Dynatree-Core-tbn.2.mcz
JQWidgetBox-Dynatree-Core-tbn.3.mcz
I am a bit puzzled with this primitive.
There is no sender of #setGCSemaphore: semaIndex in image,
and VM seems like using it for signaling semaphore as a post-GC action.
I expected that it is finalization process, which should use that
guy.. but no, it just using special objects array indice:
Hi Lukas, Igor
2011/8/17 Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com:
How would that help anybody to find out whether they are relying on
deprecated methods? This seems like a big step backwards form a user
point of view. Suddenly a method is gone and you didn't get a warning.
You are you supposed to
It seems not working. Could you please double check? I don't know how to
proceed. Someone have any idea?
2011/8/17 Fabrizio Perin fabrizio.pe...@gmail.com
I will try to run a script that should fix it now. So SS will be down for
some minuts
cheers,
Fabrizio
2011/8/17 Torsten Bergmann
It seems not working. Could you please double check? I don't know how to
proceed. Someone have any idea?
It's not there yet. Still wrong.
Maybe you could delete the core/dev 1-3 mcz's on the hard disk
and I reimport them.
Andreas Raab also seems to miss packages:
Max,
You have reason to complain...
Not all projects use Metacello so there are still cases where the configuration
is only found in the MetacelloRepository. Sometimes developers forget to copy
the configurations to the MetacelloRepository. And so on
In self defense:
1. Use the
Damien,
Stef and I are going to talk at ESUG about the procedures/recommendations/tools
for managing configurations in Pharo.
I (almost) apologize for naming the class MetacelloToolBox, but what do you
expect from a person who makes up names all the time? With project names like
Metacello or
On Aug 17, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
It seems not working. Could you please double check? I don't know how to
proceed. Someone have any idea?
It's not there yet. Still wrong.
Maybe you could delete the core/dev 1-3 mcz's on the hard disk
and I reimport them.
Yes, we
On 17 August 2011 19:04, Dale Henrichs dhenr...@vmware.com wrote:
Stef and I are going to talk at ESUG about the
procedures/recommendations/tools for managing configurations in Pharo.
Cool, I'm interested too (though probably to obsessive-compulsive to
have a useful point of view)
I (almost)
1. Use the configuration found in the project repository.
2. Use the configuration found in MetacelloRepository
The following code would do that automatically (i.e. for Moose):
Gofer new
squeaksource: 'Moose';
squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
package:
The policy should be
- put a configurationOf in your package
- publish when you want a copy of it in metacellorepository
I will sit with dale sunday because we want the publish to copy all the
dependent package also in the DistributionMetacelloRepository
On Aug 17, 2011, at
On 17.08.2011 16:05, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
Hi Lukas, Igor
2011/8/17 Lukas Renggli reng...@gmail.com:
How would that help anybody to find out whether they are relying on
deprecated methods? This seems like a big step backwards form a user
point of view. Suddenly a method is gone and
Maybe a bit of wishful thinking but…
Ideally, I think of the metacellorepository as a kind of 'smart folder' where
all metacello configurations of public repositories are automatically included.
Something like a smart mail folder on mac mail.
Having two locations with the same package almost
Hi Eliot,
This is great news. I am totally happy that I can get accurate
coverage data again :-)
Unfortunately there is a new problem: The VM sometimes crashes when
running the coverage analysis. I am using the same test setup
I'm not sure whether this is one of the goals of the community or whether
maybe someone's already heading in this direction, but something like Gofer
install: #myPackage that looked up which repo and version are the suitable
ones would really rock big time. The apt-get of Pharo, call it...
To go
Bernat,
A while ago, Esteban Lorenzano released the GoferProjectLoader[1] that extends
Gofer and allows one to load configurations. For example:
Gofer project
load: 'Seaside30';
load: 'Pier2'.
loads the latest version of Seaside30 and then Pier2 ... there are options for
What I would like is that the published conf in the distro projects should get
loaded, tests run automatically.
Stef
On Aug 17, 2011, at 8:14 PM, Johan Brichau wrote:
Maybe a bit of wishful thinking but…
Ideally, I think of the metacellorepository as a kind of 'smart folder' where
Dear Smalltalkers,
As part of comparison of web frameworks [1] Hannes Hirzel proposed to
make a concrete example of web app in all three frameworks [2]. He
proposed a ToDo example and here it is, an Aida version of it!
I also prepared a short description with screenshots and code snippets,
Great, really! :)
So, ideally we'd have ONE single config repo (MetacelloRepository), and
Gofer project would look there, is that it?
2011/8/17 Dale Henrichs dhenr...@vmware.com
Bernat,
A while ago, Esteban Lorenzano released the GoferProjectLoader[1] that
extends Gofer and allows one to
Damien and others,
I am hoping to have a set of relatively informal discussions of Metacello and
collaboration on Saturday and Sunday at Camp Smalltalk with additional
discussions throughout the week.
I'll send mail to the Metacello mailing list[1] and tweet[2] about times and
locations,
do you want the entire folder or just the missing files?
2011/8/17 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
On Aug 17, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
It seems not working. Could you please double check? I don't know how to
proceed. Someone have any idea?
It's not there yet.
Hi guys
I would like to get a better system and I would appreciate some comments for
these methods.
Stef
I wrote
cull: anArg
Execute the receiver with one or zero argument.
[ 1 + 2 ] cull: 5
returns 3
[ :x | 1+ 2 + x] cull: 5
returns 8
^numArgs = 0
ifTrue: [self value]
ifFalse: [self
On 17.08.2011 22:17, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I wrote
cull: anArg
Execute the receiver with one or zero argument.
[ 1 + 2 ] cull: 5
returns 3
[ :x | 1+ 2 + x] cull: 5
returns 8
^numArgs = 0
ifTrue:
execute or evaluate?
On 17 August 2011 23:17, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
I wrote
cull: anArg
Execute the receiver with one or zero argument.
[ 1 + 2 ] cull: 5
returns 3
[ :x | 1+ 2 + x] cull: 5
returns 8
this is a convenience methods
On 17 August 2011 23:29, Philippe Marschall kus...@gmx.net wrote:
On 17.08.2011 22:17, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I wrote
cull: anArg
Execute the receiver with one or zero argument.
[ 1 + 2 ] cull: 5
returns 3
[ :x | 1+ 2 + x]
On 17.08.2011 22:11, stephane ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
I would like to get a better system and I would appreciate some comments for
these methods.
Stef
Execute receiving block with as many arguments as it requires.
This allows us to write blocks more concisely when we are not
necessarily
I prefer execute :)
because evaluate looks like you don't run fast and generate possibly assembly
on the fly.
I stopped long time ago to use evaluate because people also think that
Smalltalk is slow because of that evaluation
silly idiots but they are out there.
Stef (Ze mass educator)
I was looking at some old slides of Joe Armstrong on Concurrency-orinted
programming. He set the following challenge:
Put N processes in a ring:
Send a simple message round the ring M times.
Increase N until the system crashes.
How long did it take to start the ring?
How long did it take to
thanks I will be in the Block chapter I'm revising now :)
On Aug 17, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
On 17.08.2011 22:11, stephane ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
I would like to get a better system and I would appreciate some comments for
these methods.
Stef
Execute receiving
On 17.08.2011 22:29, Philippe Marschall wrote:
On 17.08.2011 22:17, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I wrote
cull: anArg
Execute the receiver with one or zero argument.
[ 1 + 2 ] cull: 5
returns 3
[ :x | 1+ 2 + x] cull: 5
returns 8
Hi Andrew,
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Andrew P. Black bl...@cs.pdx.edu wrote:
I was looking at some old slides of Joe Armstrong on Concurrency-orinted
programming. He set the following challenge:
Put N processes in a ring:
Send a simple message round the ring M times.
Increase N
On 17 August 2011 23:45, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
I prefer execute :)
because evaluate looks like you don't run fast and generate possibly assembly
on the fly.
:)
I stopped long time ago to use evaluate because people also think that
Smalltalk is slow because of
On 17 August 2011 23:57, Henrik Sperre Johansen
henrik.s.johan...@veloxit.no wrote:
On 17.08.2011 22:29, Philippe Marschall wrote:
On 17.08.2011 22:17, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
I wrote
cull: anArg
Execute the receiver with one or zero argument.
[ 1 + 2 ] cull: 5
Each process is a Pharo object (an instance of ERringElement) that contains a
counter, a reference to the next ERringElement, and an ErlangProcess that
is a Process that contains a reference to an instance of SharedQueue (its
mailbox).
The good news is that up to 50k processes, it
On 18 August 2011 00:02, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Andrew,
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Andrew P. Black bl...@cs.pdx.edu wrote:
I was looking at some old slides of Joe Armstrong on Concurrency-orinted
programming. He set the following challenge:
Put N processes
Hi Andrew:
On 17 Aug 2011, at 22:50, Andrew P. Black wrote:
I can imagine that the increasing process-creation time is due to beating on
the memory manager. But why the increasing message-sending time as the
number of processes increases? (Recall that exactly one process is runnable
at
On 18 August 2011 00:20, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18 August 2011 00:02, Eliot Miranda eliot.mira...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Andrew,
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Andrew P. Black bl...@cs.pdx.edu wrote:
I was looking at some old slides of Joe Armstrong on Concurrency-orinted
On 18 August 2011 00:24, Stefan Marr ph...@stefan-marr.de wrote:
Hi Andrew:
On 17 Aug 2011, at 22:50, Andrew P. Black wrote:
I can imagine that the increasing process-creation time is due to beating on
the memory manager. But why the increasing message-sending time as the
number of
Do I hear remote tools ?
How would that work, exactly? Wouldn't you want to keep the
contexts where they are, and interact with them with remote messages?
Otherwise, it seems like differences between the two object memories
would cause trouble eventually.
-C
--
Craig Latta
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