Hi Matthias,
yes, that would be very useful (I added it to the wiki)!
Can you help with this?
Cheers,
Adrian
On Nov 4, 2008, at 12:52 , Matthias Berth wrote:
Hi Adrian,
how about some getting started information - inside the image and on a
web page? What would be useful for beginners?
What about having short screencasts that show basic steps such as
class and method creation, using the debugger,...
I have SnapZPro, I could make up some
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 4 Nov 2008, at 10:38, Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Hi Matthias,
yes, that would be very useful (I added it to the wiki)!
sure, that would be nice. However, I would wait until a bit later when
we have Polymorph + TT.
Adrian
On Nov 4, 2008, at 18:05 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
What about having short screencasts that show basic steps such as
class and method creation, using the debugger,...
I have SnapZPro, I
sure, that would be nice. However, I would wait until a bit later
when we have Polymorph + TT.
Make sense yes.
Alexandre
On Nov 4, 2008, at 18:05 , Alexandre Bergel wrote:
What about having short screencasts that show basic steps such as
class and method creation, using the debugger,...
Since a 1.0 release is likely to get attention, maybe would be wise to
integrate Polymorph+TT beforehand?
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Alexandre Bergel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sure, that would be nice. However, I would wait until a bit later when we
have Polymorph + TT.
Make sense yes.
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 7:37 PM, David Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since a 1.0 release is likely to get attention, maybe would be wise to
integrate Polymorph+TT beforehand?
Look at the very first message in this thread or at
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Milestones.
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ok, then, let's take Pharo-Core and Pharo.
+1
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On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo.
+1
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Hi Adrian,
how about some getting started information - inside the image and on a
web page? What would be useful for beginners?
Cheers
Matthias
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,
Last week in Bern, Marcus, Stef, and I have been discussing a
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there anything important we missed? Any suggestions?
- review pharo-dev images and make comments so that the official Pharo
image contains some dev tools and pharo-dev becomes useless.
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Hi Adrian,
Adrian Lienhard wrote:
Concerning terminology, I suggest to name the official Pharo image,
which will be packaged as a one-click image, Pharo-IDE. And the one
where the actual development of Pharo takes place is named Pharo-CORE.
Using DEV is ambiguous because its not clear
2008/11/3 Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
thanks, I forgot to list the one-click image. I added the plan to
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Milestones
Concerning terminology, I suggest to name the official Pharo image, which
will be packaged as a one-click image, Pharo-IDE. And the one
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Concerning terminology, I suggest to name the official Pharo image, which
will be packaged as a one-click image, Pharo-IDE. And the one where the
actual development of Pharo takes place is named Pharo-CORE. Using DEV is
Why not to have Pharo-standard and Pharo-Enterprise ?
The idea is that the version *with* the tools is the standard. Not
the one without. ;-)
What about Pharo-minimal and Pharo-enterprise?
Cheers,
Alexandre
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On 03.11.2008, at 15:52, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Why not to have Pharo-standard and Pharo-Enterprise ?
The idea is that the version *with* the tools is the standard. Not
the one without. ;-)
What about Pharo-minimal and Pharo-enterprise?
I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo.
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Marcus Denker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo.
So do I
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On 03.11.2008, at 10:55, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
2008/11/3 Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
thanks, I forgot to list the one-click image. I added the plan to
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Milestones
Concerning terminology, I suggest to name the official Pharo image,
which
will be
ok, then, let's take Pharo-Core and Pharo.
Adrian
On Nov 3, 2008, at 17:07 , Ramon Leon wrote:
Marcus Denker wrote:
I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo.
+0.9
Pharo-Core and Pharo-Dev (+0.1)
Michael
Ditto, I like Core and Dev better, but Pharo-Core and Pharo aren't bad
either.
Ramon Leon
On 03.11.2008, at 15:44, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
Yes good idea, to have 2 differents names, but why Pharo-IDE ? There
is no IDE in the core version ?
There is only a minimal one, and it will be further reduced in the
future. So, for real work, it is suggested to use the IDE image,
which
Yes good idea, to have 2 differents names, but why Pharo-IDE ? There
is no IDE in the core version ?
There is only a minimal one, and it will be further reduced in the
future. So, for real work, it is suggested to use the IDE image,
which includes all the productivity tools like
I like that, too :)DoruOn Nov 3, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:ok, then, let's take Pharo-Core and Pharo.AdrianOn Nov 3, 2008, at 17:07 , Ramon Leon wrote:Marcus Denker wrote:I vote for Pharo-Core and Pharo.+0.9Pharo-Core and Pharo-Dev (+0.1)MichaelDitto, I like Core and Dev better, but
I suggest to have at least one next image - without everything what can be
safely unloaded. For the next cleaning and shrinking purposes.
Of course if you want to have similar sequence of automatically build images
like the KernelImage.
-- Pavel
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Adrian Lienhard
Adrian Lienhard ha scritto:
On Nov 3, 2008, at 10:55 , Serge Stinckwich wrote:
Why not Pharo-stable and Pharo-unstable ?
because there exists a stable CORE too. Changes are done on the core and
from this the IDE is then built.
I hope this helps to explain the rationale behind the
2008/11/3 Adrian Lienhard [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ok, then, let's take Pharo-Core and Pharo.
+1
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On Nov 2, 2008, at 14:25 , Torsten Bergmann wrote:
Is there anything important we missed?
Yes - would be good if the first release is able to
load and run a stable seaside version, if possible the newest.
Seaside, yes, this goes without saying ;)
This depends on the seaside 2.9 release
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