Re: [Pharo-project] Missing characters when typing?

2009-08-09 Thread Michael Rueger
Michael Rueger wrote: as additional info: one more thing: is it happening to people who are *not* using shout or auto completion? Michael ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

[Pharo-project] Loading CUIS strike font

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
does one of you succeed to load the latest version of CUIS ? http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/Misc/ I got base64Decoded missing but I could not find it in CUIS 258 Stef ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
thanks for the info. Stef On Aug 8, 2009, at 8:20 PM, Keith Hodges wrote: Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi in the future I would like to have a process like that to maintain package like sound (or morphic extras) or any package that are not core else we will not be able to maintain them or to

Re: [Pharo-project] Loading CUIS strike font

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Apparently I used the V2 preliminaries files. I will integrate the V4 in the next release today. On Aug 8, 2009, at 3:09 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: does one of you succeed to load the latest version of CUIS ? http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/Misc/ I got base64Decoded missing but I could

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo beta 1.0 and Tutorials/Books directions

2009-08-09 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks for the feedback. I added a note to the website. Adrian On Aug 8, 2009, at 22:59 , Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez wrote: El sáb, 08-08-2009 a las 17:51 -0300, csra...@bol.com.br escribió: Dear folks, Now Pharo beta 1.0 is out, and since the link

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo beta 1.0 and Tutorials/Books directions

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
We hope to have pharo by example for august. Stef On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:51 PM, csra...@bol.com.br wrote: Dear folks, Now Pharo beta 1.0 is out, and since the link http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/tutorials-books suggests the use of Squeak By Example as a first reference, I

[Pharo-project] Fwd: loading CUIS strike font

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok I missed it. Stef On Aug 8, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Juan Vuletich wrote: Hi Stef, stephane ducasse wrote: does one of you succeed to load the latest version of CUIS ? http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/Misc/ I got base64Decoded missing but I could not find it in CUIS 258 Stef Load

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Hi, I really think we need a package management system and a process to maintain it. The goal is that loading and using non-core packages just works (unlike for instance SqueakMap, where loading more often fails than succeeds because there are a lot of obsolete packages and a dependency

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10412

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
- Issue 1052: Cuis 0058-browseUndeclared.1.cs SystemNavigation default browseUndeclaredReferences - Issue 1055: Strike font preliminaries StrikeFont preliminaries for CUIS enhanced fonts. - Issue 1054: Cuis code author CUIS code author checking code

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: Hi, I really think we need a package management system and a process to maintain it. The goal is that loading and using non-core packages just works (unlike for instance SqueakMap, where loading more often fails than succeeds because

Re: [Pharo-project] Good Work Guys!

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Thanks Daniel. Now we do not want to compete with Squeak. We did pharo because we had to. We hope that we will produce something good that people can use. Feel free to contribute. There is always something to do (test, reporting bugs, reporting that fixes are working). Stef All, I

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10413

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
- Issue 1055: Strike font preliminaries (with missing items base64Decoded base64Encoded) - Issue 836:Should integrate threadSafeTranscript - Issue 981:Changes Author initials and name to an unified fullName (thanks Miguel!) 39 items left :) (and a

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10413

2009-08-09 Thread Hilaire Fernandes
2009/8/9 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr: Now it should be easier for people that want to test strike fonts (one file to load) Any pointer how to do it ? Hilaire -- http://blog.ofset.org/hilaire ___ Pharo-project mailing list

[Pharo-project] About v4 strike fonts

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
When I move a window I get the following visual effect with strike font loaded inline: Picture 1.png___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] Missing characters when typing?

2009-08-09 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I use Shout; I do not use autocompletion. On the latter, if the system can keep up with me, it's quicker to just type of the stuff. -Original Message- From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Michael Rueger

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10412

2009-08-09 Thread Adrian Lienhard
- Issue 1054: Cuis code author CUIS code author checking code SystemNavigation default contributorsNotSignatories SystemNavigation default allContributors SystemNavigation default contributionsOf: ... Stef, what is the difference to the Methodauthorships package that we've

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10413

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/Misc/ take V4 Stef On Aug 9, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: 2009/8/9 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr: Now it should be easier for people that want to test strike fonts (one file to load) Any pointer how to do it ? Hilaire --

Re: [Pharo-project] About v4 strike fonts

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I get 0.0 and I use 4.1.1.beta2U which is the latest vm available on mac. Stef On Aug 9, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Juan Vuletich wrote: Stéphane Ducasse wrote: When I move a window I get the following visual effect with strike font loaded

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10412

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Aug 9, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: - Issue 1054:Cuis code author CUIS code author checking code SystemNavigation default contributorsNotSignatories SystemNavigation default allContributors SystemNavigation default contributionsOf: ... Stef, what is

[Pharo-project] I will do an harvesting pause...

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Michael Roberts
do we have a list of candidate package management systems? cheers, Mike On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Stéphane Ducassestephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Aug 9, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: Hi, I really think we need a package management system and a process to maintain it.

Re: [Pharo-project] About v4 strike fonts

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
inline: Picture 1.png So I do not know what to think. I have the latest vm and this is the one which executed the image. Of course we will have to change this vmVersion to write the exact pharo image number which is here 10413 Stef___

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez
El dom, 09-08-2009 a las 14:26 +0200, Adrian Lienhard escribió: - There should be a responsible maintainer for each package - For each package there should be a known way to discuss and report problems - A gate keeper includes and removes packages from the set depending on their status

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Keith Hodges
Adrian Lienhard wrote: Hi, I really think we need a package management system and a process to maintain it. The goal is that loading and using non-core packages just works (unlike for instance SqueakMap, where loading more often fails than succeeds because there are a lot of obsolete

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10413

2009-08-09 Thread Damien Cassou
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Stéphane Ducassestephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Now it should be easier for people that want to test strike fonts (one file to load) Why would Strike fonts be necessary? We have FreeType and a good looking font by default in Pharo non-core. -- Damien Cassou

Re: [Pharo-project] About v4 strike fonts

2009-08-09 Thread Damien Cassou
2009/8/9 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr: So I do not know what to think. I have the latest vm and this is the one which executed the image. Of course we will have to change this vmVersion to write the exact pharo image number which is here 10413 I think that the version printed

Re: [Pharo-project] About v4 strike fonts

2009-08-09 Thread John M McIntosh
10 years back the VM source was in the image, this included vmmaker and an encoded zip file for all the C source files need to build the VM on the platform, aka macintosh. Out of that the vmVersion primitive would just return the update number of the image used to build the VM because they

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Dale Henrichs
Mike, I have been working on Metacello which is a package management system for Smalltalk. Metacello is built on top of Monticello and should also be able to manage MC2 artifacts. Metacello runs on Squeak, Pharo and GemStone. It is currently in alpha as I am still working on making it

Re: [Pharo-project] About v4 strike fonts

2009-08-09 Thread John M McIntosh
Ok, yesterday I had grabbed the Pharo1.0beta latest update: #10401 from the download link on the pharo page in order to rebuild the iPhone ebook st80docs (I'll say more once Apple approves). So this morning I fired up the image using a macintosh carbon 4.1.1beta2U vm then executed | f1

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread John M McIntosh
I believe Joseph Pelrine work on one for the Squeak World Tour fork. http://desk.org:8080/CampSmalltalk/Squeak%20World%20Tour%20Results From time to time he thinks of bring it up to date, but there is a general lack of interest... However I can ask him for a spec sheet/objectives for the

[Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10413

2009-08-09 Thread Damien Cassou
Please download and report problems: http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them. James Iry ___

Re: [Pharo-project] preparing 1.1

2009-08-09 Thread Stan Shepherd
Stéphane Ducasse-2 wrote: Hi guys we would like also to get a list of items for 1.1 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/IdeasToImplement I don't know if the following is already possible? For useability, it would be nice to have the option that 'save as new version' creates

[Pharo-project] 64bit

2009-08-09 Thread Carlos Crosetti
I havent`t seen 64-bit in the milestones... why not? ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez
El dom, 09-08-2009 a las 10:29 -0700, Dale Henrichs escribió: - Package to package dependencies. One can declare required packages like the following: 'Example-Core-anon.9' 'Example-Tests-anon.3' requires: 'Example-Core' 'Example-AddOn-anon.1' requires:

[Pharo-project] Wiki for Pharo future work [WAS] preparing 1.1

2009-08-09 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi folks. I have integrated and merged all those links for future things for Pharo in this page: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/IdeasToImplement There are a lot of items I really don't know what they are and they have very little information. Sometimes only a single world. I don't know who

Re: [Pharo-project] About v4 strike fonts

2009-08-09 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Yes. This is a known problem by Juan. He told me: You need a newer VM, with a fix I did in April. For Windows you need SqueakVM-Win32-3.11.3-bin.zip. For Mac, I'm not sure, but it needs that patch. With an older VM, the symptoms are those Mariano said. Oh, a workaround in case you don't have an

[Pharo-project] New Pharo based on core 10413 - Win32 Setup

2009-08-09 Thread Torsten Bergmann
The win32 full installer for this version is now up on: http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download Have fun Torsten -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 ___

Re: [Pharo-project] Wiki for Pharo future work [WAS] preparing 1.1

2009-08-09 Thread Adrian Lienhard
Thanks a lot, Mariano! I did a quick pass making some items more descriptive and deleting obsolete ones. I added a (?) at the end of items that I do not understand. I deleted the now obsolete wiki pages. Regarding http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Milestones I think we should move all

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Keith Hodges
Keith Hodges wrote: Adrian Lienhard wrote: Hi, I really think we need a package management system and a process to maintain it. The goal is that loading and using non-core packages just works Same goal as for Sake/Packages, and it works for me. (unlike for instance SqueakMap,

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10412

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Adrian if the behavior in MethodAuthorship is better we can just removed what I integrated. There is no problem. Let me know. Stef On Aug 9, 2009, at 5:17 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: - Issue 1054:Cuis code author CUIS code author checking code SystemNavigation default

Re: [Pharo-project] About v4 strike fonts

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi john I downloaded the vm from your web site and I got 1.0. So I removed all the 4.4.1beta2U vm and replaced them by the latest one. This is really strange. Stef On Aug 9, 2009, at 7:33 PM, John M McIntosh wrote: Ok, yesterday I had grabbed the Pharo1.0beta latest update: #10401 from

Re: [Pharo-project] Wiki for Pharo future work [WAS] preparing 1.1

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I will do a pass on the items in the future because some are at different plans. Stef On Aug 9, 2009, at 8:19 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Hi folks. I have integrated and merged all those links for future things for Pharo in this page:

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I have ginsu on my disc since years. Ginsu was a good declarative model (now we have MC which plays the same role). What we are missing is a package management system. So may be metacello can play this role. I think that once we will have cleaner and better modular package we should be able

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Keith you mentioned that you did videos about Bob or sake. Do you have them so that I can watch them? Stef On Aug 9, 2009, at 10:01 PM, Keith Hodges wrote: Keith Hodges wrote: Adrian Lienhard wrote: Hi, I really think we need a package management system and a process to maintain it.

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 10413

2009-08-09 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Indeed I realized that this is a good question. For me the point is to have a good fall back when C plugin are not there. On Aug 9, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Damien Cassou wrote: On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Stéphane Ducassestephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Now it should be easier for people that

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Dale Henrichs
- Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez miguel.c...@gmail.com wrote: | El dom, 09-08-2009 a las 10:29 -0700, Dale Henrichs escribió: | |- Package to package dependencies. One can declare required | packages | like the | following: |'Example-Core-anon.9' |

Re: [Pharo-project] About v4 strike fonts

2009-08-09 Thread John M McIntosh
Are you sure you didn't have a BitBltPlugin.bundle in the Resource folder of any of those squeak.apps you deleted? I believe it would override the 4.1.1b2U behavior,, although someone could test that for me? On 9-Aug-09, at 1:20 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi john I downloaded the vm

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Michael Roberts
great, i have created a small page on the wiki http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PackageManagementSystem it would be good if people could update they are interested in / represent. I am mainly interested in links that go to docs downloads (code). Looking at the recent IdeasToImplement tidy

[Pharo-project] PluggableTextMorph without smalltalk shortcuts

2009-08-09 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Is there a way to get a PluggableTextMorph without the default Smalltalk shortcuts? Until now I have something like: (PluggableTextMorph on: textModel text: #text accept: #accept:notifying: readSelection: #selection

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Keith Hodges
Stéphane Ducasse wrote: I have ginsu on my disc since years. Ginsu was a good declarative model (now we have MC which plays the same role). What we are missing is a package management system. So may be metacello can play this role. I think that once we will have cleaner and better

[Pharo-project] Display depth on Linux

2009-08-09 Thread Hernan Wilkinson
On linux, when setting Display Depth to something else than 32, it is impossible to recongnize something on the screen. We did some research with Juan Vuletich on this and it sounds like an error on the VMnot the Smalltalk code We try it on Ubuntu 9.04, 64 bits. Is this a known bug? Hernan

[Pharo-project] Issue 1053: Transcript updates from foreground process not displayed in Transcript window

2009-08-09 Thread Dale Henrichs
Ready for review: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1053 ___ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Re: [Pharo-project] Display depth on Linux

2009-08-09 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
2009/8/9 Hernan Wilkinson hernan.wilkin...@gmail.com On linux, when setting Display Depth to something else than 32, it is impossible to recongnize something on the screen. We did some research with Juan Vuletich on this and it sounds like an error on the VMnot the Smalltalk code We try it

[Pharo-project] Expected failures/errors on SUnit

2009-08-09 Thread Hernan Wilkinson
There is a tool we are writing that needs to stop running the tests of a test suite if there is an error or a failure (as a performance improvement)To my surprise, using failuresCount and errorsCount made the tool run slower than faster and the reason is because of the expected failures and

Re: [Pharo-project] a process to maintain non core package

2009-08-09 Thread Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez
El dom, 09-08-2009 a las 21:01 +0100, Keith Hodges escribió: Keith Hodges wrote: Adrian Lienhard wrote: Hi, I really think we need a package management system and a process to maintain it. The goal is that loading and using non-core packages just works Same goal as for