It's fixed (except the AlienLoader -- read on).
The only problem was loading order.
I separated the extensions to the Parser (necessary to load the
primitive methods) into a separate package Alien-Prereqs.
If you load Alien-Prereqs before Alien-Core, it will work.
I'm now trying to adapt the
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Johan Brichau
johan.bric...@uclouvain.bewrote:
It's fixed (except the AlienLoader -- read on).
The only problem was loading order.
I separated the extensions to the Parser (necessary to load the
primitive methods) into a separate package Alien-Prereqs.
If
hi guys
I found again this beautiful video that samuel sent when we were
brainstorming about the name of Pharo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2LeNBY_5gkfeature=related
Enjoy.
Stef
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Hi
I value the idea that when we look for a software (for example SIXX)
we can find a version that is working. In the past we used Universes and
if was successful.
We cannot not have squeakmap and universe at the same time.
I discussed with damien briefly about that and he told me that we coud
Hi Stef,
I know I am not Dale, but I will give my two cents anyway :).
I believe Metacello is a very nice piece of work and it should be a
very strong contender for managing releases. The ui tools are not
quite there yet, but it works very nicely for allowing someone to
specify the exact
It is not a problem, as such. Just the wau layouts work.
There used to be a good description on Bob's Super Swiki, though that seems
to have vanished.
Try here http://www.visoracle.com/squeak/faq/morphic_.html instead.
Regards, Gary
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Do you mean the icon or the button background?
Regards, Gary
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From: Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu
To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:02 AM
Subject: [Pharo-project] Visual nonsense
Gary, especially for the W2k
2009/9/16 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr:
hi guys
I found again this beautiful video that samuel sent when we were
brainstorming about the name of Pharo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2LeNBY_5gkfeature=related
Enjoy.
Wery impressive video. Thanks Stef.
Stef
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Johan Brichau
johan.bric...@uclouvain.bewrote:
On 16 Sep 2009, at 10:33, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote:
Is it possible to make 'Alien-Core' depend on 'Alien-Prereqs' (i.e.
a nested dependency)? If it were then the correct loading order
would be achieved
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Tudor Girba gi...@iam.unibe.ch wrote:
I believe Metacello is a very nice piece of work and it should be a
very strong contender for managing releases. The ui tools are not
quite there yet, but it works very nicely for allowing someone to
specify the exact
Probably that is the easiest solution.
Most of the time we did not rely on the dependencies because I'm not
sure that the
order can be specified.
I think that in the future we will use metacello to resolve this
ordering.
I'm just a bit lost in what is the preferred way of expressing
Ok but for pharo1.0 it would be nice to have it :)
then after we plug metacello underneath
Doru with metacello will we be able to say
I want to load in the past the version of moose which worked with
pharo1.0
even if now I'm working on pharo 3.2 (the real future :))
Stef
On Sep
Basically yes, but for that we just need a way to manage Pharo
versions. So, as long as we can say what Pharo 1.0 is, we should be
able to do that.
Cheers,
Doru
On 16 Sep 2009, at 13:29, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Ok but for pharo1.0 it would be nice to have it :)
then after we plug
I am interested in learning how we could use metacello. Not for 1.0.
Before we commit to it for 1.1 I think we would need to conduct an
experiment in parallel to get a feel for it. We should also review the
other proposals. Then commit to one proposal for 1.1 1.2 etc and make
the process
I agree. Universes is cool but:
- it requires a dedicated server and only few people installed one already
- it only allows one administrator per package description
Setting up an Universe server is simple: Just put the XML package
definition on some public HTTP server and version it with
My 2 cents.
It's very cool what there will be a packaging system. But i think what
it should allow distribution not only code, but asets too. Like
images, or css (for web application)
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 15:59, Michael Robers m...@mjr104.co.uk wrote:
am interested in learning how we could
Gary wrote:
There used to be a good description on Bob's Super Swiki, though that seems
to have vanished.
This helped me:
http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/2141
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Today I was giving a Pharo demo, using a slightly larger than standard
font.
When I tried to commit a change, the prompt for my user name was
bigger than the available screen space on my laptop. Luckily I could
still type, though I could not see what I was typing.
Can we please modify
Gary,
Whichever you think will work best - changing the background is probably more
win2k-like, now that you mention it, but anything that distinguishes the active
window would be welcome.
Thanks!
Bill
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I get a different top offenders list of course.
I've managed to refactor the worst offenders.
Benchmarks for the opening system browser below show an improvement.
Going from patched to unpatched shows that the unpatched takes between 15%
and 20% longer to complete depending on fonts/theme.
Hello,
When I open a class browser in a Pharo Image (10418 updated to 10451)
with the default Watery 2 theme, the window is visually dominated by the
button bar. Compared to the other parts of the window, it has too much
vertical height and there is not enough white space around the buttons.
Have settled for active window:
with Watery2 the taskbar button label is shown with the selection
colour.
with W2K I have removed the fixed colour, appears darker than others for
active window and effectively re-enables custom colour support for buttons
(like the SystemBrowser
On 16.09.2009, at 10:29, Gary Chambers wrote:
I get a different top offenders list of course.
I've managed to refactor the worst offenders.
Benchmarks for the opening system browser below show an improvement.
Going from patched to unpatched shows that the unpatched takes
between 15%
Mike
Yes this is a good idea.
read the blog of dale.
We are starting to manage all our project Moose, Mondrian, Glamour
with metacello
I'm waiting that doru and dale release a version with fixed api to
write a chapter for
Pharo by example2
Stef
On Sep 16, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Michael Robers
Gary I would love to see morphic goes faster so we are ready to try :)
Stef
I've managed to refactor the worst offenders.
Benchmarks for the opening system browser below show an improvement.
Going from patched to unpatched shows that the unpatched takes
between 15%
and 20% longer to
open a ticket and submit your code.
Give two significative example would be good (and we do not want . or
_ anyway)
This was on my todo but skipped my mind.
Stef
On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:
Today I was giving a Pharo demo, using a slightly larger than standard
OOoohhh... I remember doing similar hacks in Squeak... it's been quite a
while since I was familiar with the code, but I thought I'd mention this
in case it helps. Today, I get the impression that, more than
properties, what morphs need are policy objects. In that way, acting as
a response
Have a go with it (use a fresh image rather than anything you might want to
lose...).
Stick the .cs in your image directory, open a workspace and do the
following...
(FileStream readOnlyFileNamed: 'MorphicExtensionPerformance.1.cs')
fileInSilentlyAnnouncing: nil.
Morph allSubInstances do: [:m
Me too!
Both actorState and player in MorphExtension are now unused btw, if
you decided to put them there you might as well remove those two at
the same time :)
Cheers,
Henry
On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:43 43PM, Marcus Denker wrote:
On 16.09.2009, at 10:29, Gary Chambers wrote:
I get a
Hopefully I've not missed anything... I have noticed that a fileout from the
change sorter doesn't appear to write out any methods that are in *-override
categories... at least that's how it seems (might be another problem!).
Regards, Gary
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From: Henrik Johansen
is up on the download page.
So it is easy to walk on the beach, see:
http://www.dzone.com/links/walk_on_the_beach_in_10_minutes.html
Have fun
T.
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On Sep 16, 2009, at 1:06 AM, Johan Brichau wrote:
I separated the extensions to the Parser (necessary to load the
primitive methods) into a separate package Alien-Prereqs.
If you load Alien-Prereqs before Alien-Core, it will work.
Thanks Johan, that's good news here. I appreciate it.
Given
Stef,
I think that the core of Metacello is very solid. Doru is using it for Moose (a
large project) and I am using it for GLASS managing 20 some individual projects
like Pier, Seaside 2.8 and Magritte. I am working on a Metacello configuration
for Seaside 3.0 - almost 70 packages and around
Stef,
Under Metacello, when you a release a version, the complete list of Monticello
files are recorded with the version (including load order dependencies).
So Metacello is designed to make it possible to load old versions of projects
into new images.
It is also possible to record the
I guess the IDE screenshot could do with updating... old-stlye buttons!
Just mention because linked from Planet Squeak (re: Facelifiting Smalltalk).
Might be nice with #showTextEditingState preference enabled now too...
Regards, Gary
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El mié, 16-09-2009 a las 16:51 +0200, Stéphane Ducasse escribió:
open a ticket and submit your code.
Give two significative example would be good (and we do not want . or
_ anyway)
This was on my todo but skipped my mind.
I'll do it.
Stef
On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz
In principle that is possible. Though Morph doesn't implement a setter for
extension at the moment...
There are, however, a lot of default value checks in Morph, likely due to
the difficulty of migration in a live image environment.
Regards, Gary
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El mié, 16-09-2009 a las 16:15 +0200, Oscar Nierstrasz escribió:
Today I was giving a Pharo demo, using a slightly larger than standard
font.
When I tried to commit a change, the prompt for my user name was
bigger than the available screen space on my laptop. Luckily I could
still
Hi ken
it is correct that alien touches the parser?
The declarations are not pragmas compliant.
Of course your suggestion makes sense.
When marcus is back in europe I will check the status of the
new handwritten parser because it would be good to use it.
Stef
On Sep 16, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Ken
I remembered that. Now I was wondering about the following
if we can tag a config we get in essence an Universe: a set of
packages wrking with a given tag.
But this is not quite the same.
One of the problem that universes solved is that if
MyApp requires
AppA v1
YourApp requires
Mike I do not know if you can edit the site because adrian is on
holiday and I do not remember :)
On Sep 16, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Gary Chambers wrote:
I guess the IDE screenshot could do with updating... old-stlye
buttons!
Just mention because linked from Planet Squeak (re: Facelifiting
Excellent
Soon in your update :)
Stef
On Sep 16, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez wrote:
El mié, 16-09-2009 a las 16:15 +0200, Oscar Nierstrasz escribió:
Today I was giving a Pharo demo, using a slightly larger than
standard
font.
When I tried to commit a change, the prompt
On Sep 16, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
it is correct that alien touches the parser?
The declarations are not pragmas compliant.
Yes -- there's a hack in there that allows an error code variable to
be passed in the primitive pragma where otherwise the parser would
expect a
Ken Treis wrote:
* I'm creating a partial Alien library for GemStone so that I can use
the CairoGraphics package in both Pharo and GLASS. But on x86-64,
there there's a size difference between a pointer/long and an integer.
It'd be nice to have some more explicit APIs on Alien, so I could say
On Sep 16, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
what is the cairoPackage?
For pharo 1.1 I would like to see Rome cleaned and loadable/integrated
in pharo.
It's a port of Travis Griggs' package from VisualWorks -- a fairly
direct mapping of Cairo objects into Smalltalk. I posted it on
On Sep 16, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Douglas Brebner wrote:
One minor point is that whether integers and longs are different
depends
on the platforms data model. Under MS Win64, integers and long
integers
are both 32bit, while on most unixes integers are 32bit while long
ints
are 64bit.
When defining project references in Metacello, you can use a #= operator which
basically says that later versions are okay - this makes it possible for MyApp
to specify AppA v1 but be able to use AppA v3 if it is already loaded...
The problem of conflicting requirements isn't solved but
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Ken Treis k...@miriamtech.com wrote:
On Sep 16, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Douglas Brebner wrote:
One minor point is that whether integers and longs are different
depends
on the platforms data model. Under MS Win64, integers and long
integers
are both 32bit,
hi guys
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1224
Now there is the possibility to not be warned for
| a |
a + 1
When you compile and also removing unused variable
Parser doNotWarnUser
Parser WarnUser
compiler-sd.117 in the inbox
I would prefer that somebody have a look
ok what is its license?
Stef
what is the cairoPackage?
For pharo 1.1 I would like to see Rome cleaned and loadable/
integrated
in pharo.
It's a port of Travis Griggs' package from VisualWorks -- a fairly
direct mapping of Cairo objects into Smalltalk. I posted it on
SqueakSource
I just fixed Symbol allInstances - Symbol allSymbols in
http://source.squeak.org/trunk/System-nice.148.mcz
This was already in Pharo I think, however, Eliot did some other
changes that might be worth to check.
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10454
-
- Issue 1223: reduce message text on full name prompt
- Issue 1222: edit Repository information-cancel fails.
UIManager#multiLineRequest:centerAt:initialAnswer:answerHeight:
returns nil
- Issue 1199: Debug log is overwritten
Hi,
I want to obtain the contents of a file. I am doing the followings:
(FileStream readOnlyFileFullyNamed: fullPath) contentsOfEntireFile
However, what I get is a string with tabs instead of new lines. I am
on a Mac, and the file I am using is UTF8 using LF. Can anyone tell me
what I am
- Issue 1223: reduce message text on full name prompt
That was a fast inclusion!
Excellent!
Alexandre
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On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr
wrote:
10454
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- Issue 1223: reduce message text on full name prompt
- Issue 1222: edit Repository information-cancel fails.
UIManager#multiLineRequest:centerAt:initialAnswer:answerHeight:
returns nil
-
Thanks nicolas
I could not find enough energy to work on the closure fixes...
so far.
stef
I just fixed Symbol allInstances - Symbol allSymbols in
http://source.squeak.org/trunk/System-nice.148.mcz
This was already in Pharo I think, however, Eliot did some other
changes that might be worth
Lukas pointed me to CrLfFileStream which seems to do the job:
(CrLfFileStream readOnlyFileNamed: fullPath) contentsOfEntireFile
Also, it looks like readOnlyFileFullyNamed: is an extension and that I
should use readOnlyFileNamed:
Please tell me if I am missing something else.
Cheers,
Doru
On
Ken Treis wrote:
On Sep 16, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Douglas Brebner wrote:
One minor point is that whether integers and longs are different
depends
on the platforms data model. Under MS Win64, integers and long
integers
are both 32bit, while on most unixes integers are 32bit while long
If someone would like to post a screenshot or mail me off list, i can
edit the web site.
thanks,
Mike
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
Mike I do not know if you can edit the site because adrian is on
holiday and I do not remember :)
On Sep
Greetings,
I don't know if anyone is interested, but PharoInbox now contains a change
set, Graphics-KenDickey.131, which adds Color names based on NBS-ISCC Color
Centroids as described in:
http://people.csail.mit.edu/jaffer/Color/Dictionaries
After the change set has been filed in, one
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Ken Dickey ken.dic...@whidbey.com wrote:
Greetings,
I don't know if anyone is interested, but PharoInbox now contains a change
set, Graphics-KenDickey.131, which adds Color names based on NBS-ISCC
Color
Centroids as described in:
In the sometimes hectic rush in building both the Alien and ObjectiveC
plugins for OS-X when
Apple pushed out it seems 53 beta version of XCode for snow leopard
and iPhone OS 3.x I managed
to build both plugins for OS-X 10.5 only.
Finally someone noticed, oddly this took awhile...
Therefore
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