Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1
I was among those who were shocked by the selling price of that Capehart, and I hope like crazy, that it's in loving hands. The Capehart I have is a 114 N2 (?), which is 78 only, and with a Pfanstiehl pickup. I bought it in the seventies, and the chassis needs re-capping like nothing I've ever done! Mine has the 6L6 amplifier, and I confess, I've never looked to see what speaker is in it. Long ago, I was at a radio meet, and a guy was toting in, one of the Capehart amplifiers, with the 2A3's and all. I asked the price, and he said $2.00! No hesitation, I bought it. I am strange at times. [Original Message] From: Bruce Mercer maxbu...@wowway.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 3/31/2010 12:55:25 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1 Judging from the price paid and looking at what the buyer has previously bought, I would say the Capehart is in good hands. I've seen that WE speaker go for almost 3K. A 41-E changer (not w/L.P.) went for about 1300.00 a couple weeks ago. I bought an identical one for about 300.00 three or four years ago. One of my Capeharts is the 414-N (78's only) and operates smooth as silk, once it's adjusted properly. I did go through a few junk records to get it that way however. With the GE pickup it is extremely kind to some very expensive records I play on it. I reserve the 405-E for just the occaisonal play as it 'is' hard on records because of the weight of the pickup. The 1935 cabinet is more heavily built (if that is possible) and just has a charm of its own. Each machine sounds spectacular. I think the one recently sold was worth every penny considering very few were made that played 33 1/3 albums. I also have to say that is a feature I would not pay a premium for. Maybe, finally the collecting public has awakened from their sleep or lack of knowlege of these wonderful phonographs and save them from gutting and having their parts end up across the Pacific or here, for the almighty $. Bruce - Original Message - From: Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1 Well, the Capehart sold for $6100.00. I had planned on bidding, but the bids topped 2 grand before I would have bid. I only hope that the buyer treats the set with the affection that the price suggests. I sort of think that it had a little too much publicity in these posts. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1
Judging from the price paid and looking at what the buyer has previously bought, I would say the Capehart is in good hands. I've seen that WE speaker go for almost 3K. A 41-E changer (not w/L.P.) went for about 1300.00 a couple weeks ago. I bought an identical one for about 300.00 three or four years ago. One of my Capeharts is the 414-N (78's only) and operates smooth as silk, once it's adjusted properly. I did go through a few junk records to get it that way however. With the GE pickup it is extremely kind to some very expensive records I play on it. I reserve the 405-E for just the occaisonal play as it 'is' hard on records because of the weight of the pickup. The 1935 cabinet is more heavily built (if that is possible) and just has a charm of its own. Each machine sounds spectacular. I think the one recently sold was worth every penny considering very few were made that played 33 1/3 albums. I also have to say that is a feature I would not pay a premium for. Maybe, finally the collecting public has awakened from their sleep or lack of knowlege of these wonderful phonographs and save them from gutting and having their parts end up across the Pacific or here, for the almighty $. Bruce - Original Message - From: Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1 Well, the Capehart sold for $6100.00. I had planned on bidding, but the bids topped 2 grand before I would have bid. I only hope that the buyer treats the set with the affection that the price suggests. I sort of think that it had a little too much publicity in these posts. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1
Well, the Capehart sold for $6100.00. I had planned on bidding, but the bids topped 2 grand before I would have bid. I only hope that the buyer treats the set with the affection that the price suggests. I sort of think that it had a little too much publicity in these posts. [Original Message] From: Greg Bogantz gbogan...@charter.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 3/23/2010 8:38:07 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1 Abe, the Capehart radio/phonos made from the mid 1930s to about 1950 were among the very finest, most exclusive models available in the USA. With very few exceptions such as the D-22 and the QU-8 which actually used a Capehart 16E changer and the postwar Berkshire series, ALL of which are very rare, RCA had nothing to compare. Aside from a very few other specialty makers such as E.H. Scott and McMurdo Silver, there were were no radio/phonos available in the USA that compared with the Capeharts. That's why these Capeharts are held in such high regard by collectors today. There were two common series made during these years, the 100 and the 400 series (model number were in these ranges). The 100 series was the cheaper one with smaller amplifiers and less elaborate cabinetry. The 400 series looked similar to the 100 series, but they usually (not always) had more and/or larger amplifiers and more expensive speakers and more elaborate cabinets. There was also a much rarer 300 series which were tall-boy cabinets with the components stacked vertically, and the EXTREMELY RARE 500 series which were the SUPER deluxe models available usually by special, customized order only. All these series used the exclusive Capehart flipover record changers. The early (prewar) record changers were the 16E models (several variations), and the postwar changers were the 41E models which are easily identifiable by their chromed, tubular tonearms. All these changers played only 78rpm until the 41E-2 model which came out about late 1948. This model had interchangeable TONEARMS (not just headshells) that provided for either 78rpm or for microgroove 33rpm playback. The 41E-2 was made for only a short time (probably less than 2 years) before Capehart discontinued the flipover changers completely and went to cheaper drop-type changers, most of which were furnished by VM (Voice of Music). These later Capeharts (starting around 1950) used a different numbering system and were cheapened considerably from the early 100 and 400 series. These later Capeharts are not very collectible and do not bring high prices from collectors. The B-1002-F model that you have mentioned in Arizona is an example of one of these later, post 1950 models. It would probably bring around $200 in nice condition. Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: Abe Feder abefed...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1 Greg, I have noted that you and several members like the Capehart units . I have seen a few of them here in Arizona from time to time.-I know nothing about them. There is one for sale now on Craigslist a model # B-1002-F. Owner says that it has been in his family for 60 years. He has original instruction manual as well as bill of sale and is asking $750.00. Any comments about it or price? Thx Abe Feder On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Greg Bogantz gbogan...@charter.net wrote: I realize that electronic phonos are a bit off-topic for this forum, but for those of you who can really appreciate a fine Capehart, here's a rare find: A 414N-1 with the VERY hard to find 41E-2 flipover changer: eBay Item #150426006960 This is the last version of the 41E changer that has the interchangeable tonearms and plays both 78 and 33rpm microgroove records, circa 1949. I'm posting this here to try to rescue this unit from the grimy clutches of the Western Weenies who are going to buy this console ONLY to rip out the Western Electric speaker from it so that they can mount it under glass and drool over it. Note that there is already a bidder question posted about wanting to see the speaker. Then they'll sell off the N-1 power amp with the 2A3 output triodes to some golden ear tube yahoos. Then they'll simply junk the rest of the console or turn it into a liquor cabinet. That would be a particular shame since this is appears to be a really nice and complete original example of a fine, RARE Capehart. Trust me: the 41E-2 machines are RARE! Let's see one of our Phono-L members give this complete unit the home it deserves. This model is particularly easy to enjoy while you're not playing records as it has t he modern FM radio band which means you can actually listen to good radio programs on it. In glorious monophonic sound, of course. I
Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1
I'm with ya all the way, Bill. I've passed the 80 mark, and while I can get around slowly, I haven't lost my zeal for electric phonographs. I'm just finishing a 1940 RCA High Fidelity record player model R-98. There are more things in process, like a Victor Electrola 12-25. [Original Message] From: William Buchanan ret.army...@yahoo.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 3/23/2010 8:54:41 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1 After reading the messages below I had to see what this looked like. I must admit that I have never seen this model before. Once I opened the item number I was in love!! Anybody that would do harm to this unit is crazy. It is a shame that people would do this to such piece, but we have all seen it happened. It would be a shame to loose such a piece for some body with more money than brains. I hope who ever buys this does not rip it apart. I have been very unlucky with bidding on electric phonographs in the past I now have 4 different phonographs that all were supposed to be in working order but once I opened the boxes I found out that I had been taken. There are too many people on ebay that will rip you off and they know that it cost too much to return the items so they can say what ever they want. I would love to have a working phonograph from the 1940's but I only have ebay as a way to look for this stuff and after 4 times of being ripped off I won't do it again. In case you are wondering why I only use ebay, it is because I am a disabled vet and I am mostly confined to a bed and a wheel chair. I am not able to get out much to even hunt down leads or go to estate sales. I do have two table top Victor and one Edison Floor model, but I would one day love to find a wooden table top phonograph with radio. It is possible that one of the four units I have purchased may be able to be repair but I am not able to do that type of work because of the injuries. Does anybody live in Lehigh Acres Florida that works on these? Thanks and lets hope that the Cape Hart finds the nice home that it deserves. Bill --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 6:20 PM I'm with you all the way, Greg. I'll possibly bid on this thing, but I'll most certainly get sniped out to outer space, and lose it. There are just too many points of profit here for the hogs that look for them. Lately, I have bid on a couple og things that might be nice, but was sniped far beyond the bidding level. I've found that Craigslist is far and beyond the abominable eBay. My Capehart is similar, but different cabinet, P-P 6L6, and 78 only changer. I'm trying to get a DVD for you, but this stupid computer won't copy it. I have a Capehart 2A3 amp laying among my shrunken skulls. [Original Message] From: Greg Bogantz gbogan...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 3/23/2010 5:46:56 PM Subject: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1 I realize that electronic phonos are a bit off-topic for this forum, but for those of you who can really appreciate a fine Capehart, here's a rare find: A 414N-1 with the VERY hard to find 41E-2 flipover changer: eBay Item #150426006960 This is the last version of the 41E changer that has the interchangeable tonearms and plays both 78 and 33rpm microgroove records, circa 1949. I'm posting this here to try to rescue this unit from the grimy clutches of the Western Weenies who are going to buy this console ONLY to rip out the Western Electric speaker from it so that they can mount it under glass and drool over it. Note that there is already a bidder question posted about wanting to see the speaker. Then they'll sell off the N-1 power amp with the 2A3 output triodes to some golden ear tube yahoos. Then they'll simply junk the rest of the console or turn it into a liquor cabinet. That would be a particular shame since this is appears to be a really nice and complete original example of a fine, RARE Capehart. Trust me: the 41E-2 machines are RARE! Let's see one of our Phono-L members give this complete unit the home it deserves. This model is particularly easy to enjoy while you're not playing records as it has t he modern FM radio band which means you can actually listen to good radio programs on it. In glorious monophonic sound, of course. I don't have a problem with collectors mounting things under glass to admire, but to destroy a perfectly good, working piece of fine equipment just to preserve one part of it really grinds my gears. I'd bid on it, but I don't have room for it. Greg Bogantz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing
[Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1
I realize that electronic phonos are a bit off-topic for this forum, but for those of you who can really appreciate a fine Capehart, here's a rare find: A 414N-1 with the VERY hard to find 41E-2 flipover changer: eBay Item #150426006960 This is the last version of the 41E changer that has the interchangeable tonearms and plays both 78 and 33rpm microgroove records, circa 1949. I'm posting this here to try to rescue this unit from the grimy clutches of the Western Weenies who are going to buy this console ONLY to rip out the Western Electric speaker from it so that they can mount it under glass and drool over it. Note that there is already a bidder question posted about wanting to see the speaker. Then they'll sell off the N-1 power amp with the 2A3 output triodes to some golden ear tube yahoos. Then they'll simply junk the rest of the console or turn it into a liquor cabinet. That would be a particular shame since this is appears to be a really nice and complete original example of a fine, RARE Capehart. Trust me: the 41E-2 machines are RARE! Let's see one of our Phono-L members give this complete unit the home it deserves. This model is particularly easy to enjoy while you're not playing records as it has t he modern FM radio band which means you can actually listen to good radio programs on it. In glorious monophonic sound, of course. I don't have a problem with collectors mounting things under glass to admire, but to destroy a perfectly good, working piece of fine equipment just to preserve one part of it really grinds my gears. I'd bid on it, but I don't have room for it. Greg Bogantz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1
I'm with you all the way, Greg. I'll possibly bid on this thing, but I'll most certainly get sniped out to outer space, and lose it. There are just too many points of profit here for the hogs that look for them. Lately, I have bid on a couple og things that might be nice, but was sniped far beyond the bidding level. I've found that Craigslist is far and beyond the abominable eBay. My Capehart is similar, but different cabinet, P-P 6L6, and 78 only changer. I'm trying to get a DVD for you, but this stupid computer won't copy it. I have a Capehart 2A3 amp laying among my shrunken skulls. [Original Message] From: Greg Bogantz gbogan...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 3/23/2010 5:46:56 PM Subject: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1 I realize that electronic phonos are a bit off-topic for this forum, but for those of you who can really appreciate a fine Capehart, here's a rare find: A 414N-1 with the VERY hard to find 41E-2 flipover changer: eBay Item #150426006960 This is the last version of the 41E changer that has the interchangeable tonearms and plays both 78 and 33rpm microgroove records, circa 1949. I'm posting this here to try to rescue this unit from the grimy clutches of the Western Weenies who are going to buy this console ONLY to rip out the Western Electric speaker from it so that they can mount it under glass and drool over it. Note that there is already a bidder question posted about wanting to see the speaker. Then they'll sell off the N-1 power amp with the 2A3 output triodes to some golden ear tube yahoos. Then they'll simply junk the rest of the console or turn it into a liquor cabinet. That would be a particular shame since this is appears to be a really nice and complete original example of a fine, RARE Capehart. Trust me: the 41E-2 machines are RARE! Let's see one of our Phono-L members give this complete unit the home it deserves. This model is particularly easy to enjoy while you're not playing records as it has t he modern FM radio band which means you can actually listen to good radio programs on it. In glorious monophonic sound, of course. I don't have a problem with collectors mounting things under glass to admire, but to destroy a perfectly good, working piece of fine equipment just to preserve one part of it really grinds my gears. I'd bid on it, but I don't have room for it. Greg Bogantz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1
Greg, I have noted that you and several members like the Capehart units . I have seen a few of them here in Arizona from time to time.-I know nothing about them. There is one for sale now on Craigslist a model # B-1002-F. Owner says that it has been in his family for 60 years. He has original instruction manual as well as bill of sale and is asking $750.00. Any comments about it or price? Thx Abe Feder On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Greg Bogantz gbogan...@charter.net wrote: I realize that electronic phonos are a bit off-topic for this forum, but for those of you who can really appreciate a fine Capehart, here's a rare find: A 414N-1 with the VERY hard to find 41E-2 flipover changer: eBay Item #150426006960 This is the last version of the 41E changer that has the interchangeable tonearms and plays both 78 and 33rpm microgroove records, circa 1949. I'm posting this here to try to rescue this unit from the grimy clutches of the Western Weenies who are going to buy this console ONLY to rip out the Western Electric speaker from it so that they can mount it under glass and drool over it. Note that there is already a bidder question posted about wanting to see the speaker. Then they'll sell off the N-1 power amp with the 2A3 output triodes to some golden ear tube yahoos. Then they'll simply junk the rest of the console or turn it into a liquor cabinet. That would be a particular shame since this is appears to be a really nice and complete original example of a fine, RARE Capehart. Trust me: the 41E-2 machines are RARE! Let's see one of our Phono-L members give this complete unit the home it deserves. This model is particularly easy to enjoy while you're not playing records as it has t he modern FM radio band which means you can actually listen to good radio programs on it. In glorious monophonic sound, of course. I don't have a problem with collectors mounting things under glass to admire, but to destroy a perfectly good, working piece of fine equipment just to preserve one part of it really grinds my gears. I'd bid on it, but I don't have room for it. Greg Bogantz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1
Abe, the Capehart radio/phonos made from the mid 1930s to about 1950 were among the very finest, most exclusive models available in the USA. With very few exceptions such as the D-22 and the QU-8 which actually used a Capehart 16E changer and the postwar Berkshire series, ALL of which are very rare, RCA had nothing to compare. Aside from a very few other specialty makers such as E.H. Scott and McMurdo Silver, there were were no radio/phonos available in the USA that compared with the Capeharts. That's why these Capeharts are held in such high regard by collectors today. There were two common series made during these years, the 100 and the 400 series (model number were in these ranges). The 100 series was the cheaper one with smaller amplifiers and less elaborate cabinetry. The 400 series looked similar to the 100 series, but they usually (not always) had more and/or larger amplifiers and more expensive speakers and more elaborate cabinets. There was also a much rarer 300 series which were tall-boy cabinets with the components stacked vertically, and the EXTREMELY RARE 500 series which were the SUPER deluxe models available usually by special, customized order only. All these series used the exclusive Capehart flipover record changers. The early (prewar) record changers were the 16E models (several variations), and the postwar changers were the 41E models which are easily identifiable by their chromed, tubular tonearms. All these changers played only 78rpm until the 41E-2 model which came out about late 1948. This model had interchangeable TONEARMS (not just headshells) that provided for either 78rpm or for microgroove 33rpm playback. The 41E-2 was made for only a short time (probably less than 2 years) before Capehart discontinued the flipover changers completely and went to cheaper drop-type changers, most of which were furnished by VM (Voice of Music). These later Capeharts (starting around 1950) used a different numbering system and were cheapened considerably from the early 100 and 400 series. These later Capeharts are not very collectible and do not bring high prices from collectors. The B-1002-F model that you have mentioned in Arizona is an example of one of these later, post 1950 models. It would probably bring around $200 in nice condition. Greg Bogantz - Original Message - From: Abe Feder abefed...@gmail.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1 Greg, I have noted that you and several members like the Capehart units . I have seen a few of them here in Arizona from time to time.-I know nothing about them. There is one for sale now on Craigslist a model # B-1002-F. Owner says that it has been in his family for 60 years. He has original instruction manual as well as bill of sale and is asking $750.00. Any comments about it or price? Thx Abe Feder On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Greg Bogantz gbogan...@charter.net wrote: I realize that electronic phonos are a bit off-topic for this forum, but for those of you who can really appreciate a fine Capehart, here's a rare find: A 414N-1 with the VERY hard to find 41E-2 flipover changer: eBay Item #150426006960 This is the last version of the 41E changer that has the interchangeable tonearms and plays both 78 and 33rpm microgroove records, circa 1949. I'm posting this here to try to rescue this unit from the grimy clutches of the Western Weenies who are going to buy this console ONLY to rip out the Western Electric speaker from it so that they can mount it under glass and drool over it. Note that there is already a bidder question posted about wanting to see the speaker. Then they'll sell off the N-1 power amp with the 2A3 output triodes to some golden ear tube yahoos. Then they'll simply junk the rest of the console or turn it into a liquor cabinet. That would be a particular shame since this is appears to be a really nice and complete original example of a fine, RARE Capehart. Trust me: the 41E-2 machines are RARE! Let's see one of our Phono-L members give this complete unit the home it deserves. This model is particularly easy to enjoy while you're not playing records as it has t he modern FM radio band which means you can actually listen to good radio programs on it. In glorious monophonic sound, of course. I don't have a problem with collectors mounting things under glass to admire, but to destroy a perfectly good, working piece of fine equipment just to preserve one part of it really grinds my gears. I'd bid on it, but I don't have room for it. Greg Bogantz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1
After reading the messages below I had to see what this looked like. I must admit that I have never seen this model before. Once I opened the item number I was in love!! Anybody that would do harm to this unit is crazy. It is a shame that people would do this to such piece, but we have all seen it happened. It would be a shame to loose such a piece for some body with more money than brains. I hope who ever buys this does not rip it apart. I have been very unlucky with bidding on electric phonographs in the past I now have 4 different phonographs that all were supposed to be in working order but once I opened the boxes I found out that I had been taken. There are too many people on ebay that will rip you off and they know that it cost too much to return the items so they can say what ever they want. I would love to have a working phonograph from the 1940's but I only have ebay as a way to look for this stuff and after 4 times of being ripped off I won't do it again. In case you are wondering why I only use ebay, it is because I am a disabled vet and I am mostly confined to a bed and a wheel chair. I am not able to get out much to even hunt down leads or go to estate sales. I do have two table top Victor and one Edison Floor model, but I would one day love to find a wooden table top phonograph with radio. It is possible that one of the four units I have purchased may be able to be repair but I am not able to do that type of work because of the injuries. Does anybody live in Lehigh Acres Florida that works on these? Thanks and lets hope that the Cape Hart finds the nice home that it deserves. Bill --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net wrote: From: Douglas Houston cdh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1 To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 6:20 PM I'm with you all the way, Greg. I'll possibly bid on this thing, but I'll most certainly get sniped out to outer space, and lose it. There are just too many points of profit here for the hogs that look for them. Lately, I have bid on a couple og things that might be nice, but was sniped far beyond the bidding level. I've found that Craigslist is far and beyond the abominable eBay. My Capehart is similar, but different cabinet, P-P 6L6, and 78 only changer. I'm trying to get a DVD for you, but this stupid computer won't copy it. I have a Capehart 2A3 amp laying among my shrunken skulls. [Original Message] From: Greg Bogantz gbogan...@charter.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: 3/23/2010 5:46:56 PM Subject: [Phono-L] O/T: Capehart 414N-1 I realize that electronic phonos are a bit off-topic for this forum, but for those of you who can really appreciate a fine Capehart, here's a rare find: A 414N-1 with the VERY hard to find 41E-2 flipover changer: eBay Item #150426006960 This is the last version of the 41E changer that has the interchangeable tonearms and plays both 78 and 33rpm microgroove records, circa 1949. I'm posting this here to try to rescue this unit from the grimy clutches of the Western Weenies who are going to buy this console ONLY to rip out the Western Electric speaker from it so that they can mount it under glass and drool over it. Note that there is already a bidder question posted about wanting to see the speaker. Then they'll sell off the N-1 power amp with the 2A3 output triodes to some golden ear tube yahoos. Then they'll simply junk the rest of the console or turn it into a liquor cabinet. That would be a particular shame since this is appears to be a really nice and complete original example of a fine, RARE Capehart. Trust me: the 41E-2 machines are RARE! Let's see one of our Phono-L members give this complete unit the home it deserves. This model is particularly easy to enjoy while you're not playing records as it has t he modern FM radio band which means you can actually listen to good radio programs on it. In glorious monophonic sound, of course. I don't have a problem with collectors mounting things under glass to admire, but to destroy a perfectly good, working piece of fine equipment just to preserve one part of it really grinds my gears. I'd bid on it, but I don't have room for it. Greg Bogantz ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org