> On Jan 26, 2024, at 18:19, C K Kashyap wrote:
>
>
> Hey all,
> Has anyone tried a port of miniPicoLisp with the added big num support?
How did you test it?
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Hi all,
> Can you debug this a little more? E.g. look at the output of (traceAll) and
> see
> *where* exactly it happens.
I am interested in debug this. Can i get a copy of script? I have fedora
rawhide instance.
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hi all,
LLVM16 released and PicoLisp successfully compiled out of the box and passed
all tests on it.
Happy coding.
p.s. LLVM17-nightly works too so far.
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Test
> On Apr 8, 2023, at 10:42, Alexander Burger wrote:
>
> Test, please ignore!
>
> ☺/ A!ex
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hi all,
I have create a pil21 compilation on macos repo with custom Makefile for it.
Please follow compilation steps, lets test it.
https://git.envs.net/mpech/pil21-macos
>
> i am following the how to install picolisp in mac alternative method
>
hi all,
pil21 successfully passed tests on LLVM15.
Happy coding,
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hi all,
FYI, LLVM13 released and pil21 passed all tests.
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llection:
o) 2048
o) greed autoplay
https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Greed#PicoLisp
https://asciinema.org/a/369181
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Download latest pil21 and run (cd src; make) is winning strategy. I do not
belive you have problems here.
> On Sep 2, 2021, at 14:48, vuk...@fastmail.com wrote:
>
> I didn’t touch the files in any way. No make clean either
>
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>
>> On Thu, Sep 2, 2021, at
)
> opt: base.ll:1:1: error: expected top-level entity
> source_filename = "base.l"
> ^
> make: *** [Makefile:40: base.bc] Error 1
Rolling release from January?
You should download latest release from here and try again:
https://software-lab.de/down.html
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> When I download the "rolling release" version, and try to install it locally,
> I'm asked to first
> install MAKE and CLANG.
Wrong, INSTALL file tells you install more software if you want to compile
pil21 from sources.
"opt" tool is part of
Hi,
Alpine is one of primary test box for pil21 test farm.
It passed full test suite.
> Anyone have running a picolisp instance successfully on iOS or
> busybox/Alpine?
>
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er udp works:
https://software-lab.de/doc/refU.html#udp
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pport system and requires additional request to fix
portability.
Apply this patch and (port) will start work on OpenBSD, tested.
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openbsd-port.patch
Description: Binary data
hi,
new stable LLVM version released this night.
pil21 passed all tests.
BTW, llvm-nightly aka LLVM13 works too.
p.s. If you have code which works and generates strange result do not hesitate
post it here and ask.
No open issues so far.
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Andras,
https://webirc.envs.net/uploads/5d228d2686705b27/8AB6ED6B-5EAC-4CBC-BCF8-84BB26447763.jpeg
this is my try on latest big sur
April 15, 2021 7:53 PM, "Andras Pahi" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I grabbed the latest pil21.tgz and demoApp.tgz.
>
> "pil @lib/test.l +" runs without errors.
>
> On
March 25, 2021 9:48 AM, "Alexander Burger" wrote:
> PicoLisp has a really cool new function!
Test added and tested in LLVM 7, 11-13.
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>> Cool, good news! Thanks a lot!
Updated for OpenBSD
https://git.envs.net/mpech/pil21-tests/src/branch/master/INSTALL-.md
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> Is there a simpler way?
No, let me describe my steps then if you interested in.
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222)
-> 673998787659948666753771754907668409286105635143120275902562304
: (bye)
$
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mpech/tankf33der
https://git.envs.net/mpech/pil21-tests
1. to find DB code:
find . -name "*.l" | xargs grep "pool"
2 rosetta's nest:
https://git.envs.net/mpech/pil21-tests/src/branch/master/pilog-rosetta.l
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/git.musl-libc.org/cgit/musl/tree/WHATSNEW#n2141
I seen this behavior on AlpineLinux for years till now.
p.s. Pil21 tested on Alpine Linux since creation and successfully passing
everything.
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reference :)
>
You already asked this here and Great Mr.Pahi already answered:
https://www.mail-archive.com/picolisp@software-lab.de/msg09811.html
His repo is the only choice.
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t L (chop (** 5 (** 4 (** 3 2
(prinl (head 20 L) "..." (tail 20 L))
(length L) )
62060698786608744707...92256259918212890625
-> 183231
: (%@ "malloc" 'N 123)
-> 1057627088
: (bye)
$
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>
> The provided url is for an active session in the PicoLisp wiki. Can you post
> the "public" url that
> appears at the bottom of your article? (e.g https://picolisp.com/wiki/?home)
>
> Looking forward to checking it out!
>
I have wiki account and failed s
> henrik@henrik-tuf:~$ llvm-config --version
> 6.0.0
You must have LLVM7+.
Tested in range LLVM 7-12, versions in range do not have compatible breaks in
primitives.
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January 15, 2021 7:21 PM, "Christos Gitsis" wrote:
>
> Is there a way to do this and get the result:
> -> ("0001110111" "1000110111" "1100110100")
> ?
https://envs.sh/BF.l
This is my code how i *feel* this task.
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Whats is llvm version?
> On Jan 15, 2021, at 08:03, Henrik Sarvell wrote:
>
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> I'm trying to compile newest PicoLisp but get this:
>
> henrik@henrik-tuf:/feting/Downloads/picoLisp-21.1/pil21/src$ make
> Intrinsic has incorrect argument type!
> void (i8*, i8*, i64, i1)*
ravely switch to pil21, should work.
Happy coding and New Year,
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> Here is the repository https://github.com/dbertolotto/advent-of-code-2020
>
I will add modified code from this repo to test suite for pil21 in January.
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-2020
>
Thanks for sharing, congratulations.
BTW, did you use pil64 or pil21?
You definitely could switch to newer pil21 for testing and fun.
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> I've published a new article to the wiki:
>
> https://picolisp.com/wiki/?metaprogrammingexperiments
>
> It details my continued exploration of writing "Common Lisp style" macros in
> PicoLisp
>
Builtin tests passed under pil21 too.
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hi all,
I've setup next mirror for pil21 distribution via pijul:
https://nest.pijul.com/tankf33der/pil21
I will maintain as long as possible, updates daily.
p.s.
Pijul is in alpha state, unstable and full of pain.
Use on your own risk only if you have free time to play and fun.
(mike
> On Nov 21, 2020, at 15:30, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
>
> "Mike" writes:
>
> Hello,
>
>> Jeronimo,
>> mruby is not ruby itself, but also created by Matsumoto.
>> https://github.com/mruby/mruby
>> I see this is under MIT.
>>
>
“Licence Dilemma” but nightmare.
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Jeronimo,
mruby is not ruby itself, but also created by Matsumoto.
https://github.com/mruby/mruby
I see this is under MIT.
How it was possible ?
November 21, 2020 2:15 PM, "Jeronimo Pellegrini" wrote:
> "Mike" writes:
>
>> hi all,
>>
>>>
entation from Mr. Matsumoto covered by MIT
licence and have readline as dependency.
I assume Matsumoto knows everything about licences.
2. Wikipedia text for MIT says: "... The MIT license is compatible with many
copyleft licenses, such as the GNU General Public License (GPL); ...&quo
> Right. But it is needed so that it also runs on other systems.
> The else-bodo of the 'if' works for me under Debian.
Just hack for testing.
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> I hear from Mike that "Darwin" is not correct for pil21.
>
> "Macos"?
This is not issue anymore, I have manually disabled this if to use correct
definitions.
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November 5, 2020 7:09 PM, "Alexander Burger" wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 05:14:03PM +0100, Alexander Burger wrote:
>
>> So perhaps the output of strace tells us more.
>
> Hmm, not really. Mike posted one in IRC. It says "invalid kernel access"
>
hi all,
> 3. It is the general problem with libffi which was mentioned by Mike. I don't
> know more about it atm.
I've got access to MacOs again to test libffi interface:
1. trivial test works:
$ pil21 +
: (native "./native.so" "returnbyte" 'B)
-> 255
:
2. (nati
October 26, 2020 10:08 AM, "Jon Kleiser" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yesterday I tried installing pil21 on my Mac, following Mike Pechkin's
> instructions here:
>
> https://git.envs.net/mpech/pil21-tests/src/branch/master/INSTALL-.md
>
> Here’s the output from t
t perhaps you know?
>
"opt" tool is part of LLVM ecosystem and Pil21 depends only on LLVM.
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> It boils down to: use current versions of your toolchain. On my mint19
> machine i had to manually update llvm from 6(?) to 10 :)
>
Right, pil21 only works in LLVM7+ environment.
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> Is there some easy fix to get rid of these errors?
Sure, I will try repeat steps from scratch this evening on Mac and will update
the steps
p.s. BTW, homebrew switched to LLVM11. Lucky pil21 supports and tested on
LLVM11 too.
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hi all,
I would like to announce yet another fixed point math tutorial for PicoLisp:
https://hub.darcs.net/tankf33der/fixedpoint
Comments, fixes and objections are very welcome.
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-s 16000" is good start point for pil21.
p.s.s. To make some noise and fun try to run your picolisp's code on pil21.
p.s.s.s. Comparing LLVM and Assembler backend is not fair, and pil21 will be
always slower in 5-15% range.
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Sure
https://git.envs.net/mpech/tankf33der/src/branch/master/cells/data-
> On Jun 6, 2020, at 10:41, George-Phillip Orais
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Mike, I like this too, thank you for sharing! Btw do you have another
> format for this something like Powerpoint? If yes can I
hi all,
https://envs.net/~mpech/cells-tutorial.pdf
I've created tutorial about cell as root of data type hierarchy.
Goal of PDF is understanding of destructive functions.
I hope you will learn something new.
Happy coding,
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May 3, 2020 1:13 AM, "Wilhelm Fitzpatrick" wrote:
> I'm not finding such a thing in the function reference, but asking on the off
> chance I'm
> overlooking it. Is there a way in Picolisp to get a division result and
> remainder as a single
> operation?
Sure
http://ix.io/2kBM
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> Hi all,
>
> pil21 reached the first milestone:
> It passes the bignum tests in @misc/bigtest :)
Confirmed on x64 LLVM10.
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ment on Openbsd.
$ ulimit -s 32000
and it passed malloc guards.
Thanks.
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nBSD 6.6+syspatch:
$ sysctl -w vm.malloc_conf="SC"
$ pil code2015.l +
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
$ dmesg | tail -1
[picolisp]35577/479639 sp=cefce000 inside cefcf000-cf7ce000: not MAP_STACK
p.s. BTW, ASan from gcc and clang - ok
p.s.s. Several years ago (6.2-6.4 ?) it worked.
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April 20, 2020 11:01 AM, "Andras Pahi" wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> pil32, x64 means you’ve built the contents of the src/ dir in x64 mode ?
>
pil32, x64 - means gcc and voidlinux-x64 compiled-supports multilib.
I use pil32 and pil64 on the same machine, I always in pil64
min
pil32, 686, -O3 - 7 min
VLA patch, 686 - 10 min
p.s. I will create patch and will store in tankf33der repo.
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ure
# pow redefined
// hangs in advent2015/code2015.l
// is it hangs or very-very slow?
// the same in crypto/test.l
!!!
Super goal - huge.l should pass all code with your patch set.
p.s. I dont have enough energy right now to debug all this.
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https://git.envs.net/mpech/skudra
I've implement pastebin (or ix.io) service to share code or snippets on
PicoLisp web framework
Comments and objections are very welcome.
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> I'm studying lib/sumul.l, specifically the 'grid function.
In my repo you would find a lot of usage examples for grid:
https://git.envs.net/mpech/tankf33der/
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http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Find_duplicate_files#PicoLisp
> https://git.envs.net/mpech/xxhash-picolisp
> This binding I will use in this task:
> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Find_duplicate_files
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hi all,
https://git.envs.net/mpech/xxhash-picolisp
This binding I will use in this task:
http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Find_duplicate_files
BTW, I have a collection of hashes implemented on PicoLisp:
https://git.envs.net/mpech/tankf33der/src/branch/master/hash
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>> Someday all this must move to github.com/picolisp.
>> @Mansur will take care.
>
> Why not use sr.ht ?
> It fully supports W3C accessibility guidelines.
o) Because github.com is free
o) Better have one point of entry
o) No one will pay for sr.ht account (in general
to github.com/picolisp.
@Mansur will take care.
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[picolisp.bc] Error 1
>
Attention: you *must* provide LLVM toolchain (llvm-xxx, clang) of one version!
Void linux has the same issue, so i use archlinux-based for pil21.
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hi all,
I've wrote all information how I do install and update of PicoLisp over all my
machines.
Page contains 3 variations how to bootstrap to pil64.
https://git.envs.net/mpech/tankf33der/src/branch/master/install-picolisp.md
Comments and updates are welcome
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August 15, 2019 11:21 AM, "Mike" wrote:
> hi all,
>
> https://picolisp.com/wiki/?compilationbenchmark
> Next week I will post this link to HN, lobste.rs and reddit.com/r/lisp
> If you have something to edit or add please do.
>
Posted:
https://news.ycombinato
hi all,
https://picolisp.com/wiki/?compilationbenchmark
Next week I will post this link to HN, lobste.rs and reddit.com/r/lisp
If you have something to edit or add please do.
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n/picolisp/src/default
https://github.com/picolisp/picolisp
I have ~6 repos in multirepo setup
https://linux.die.net/man/1/mr
my daily use:
# mr up
// if picolisp fetched something new
# cd picolisp/src64
# make
BTW, i run pil from picolisp root
$ which pil
/home/mpech/picolisp/pil
> # VIP @lib/vip/draw.l
> (box 3 4 10 15)
>
> then open it with 'vip' and press "v" to view the drawing, I suspect it
> crashes
> too. Is that the case?
>
No, It draw a box
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.land try saving via :w
>
> czw., 4 lip 2019 o 12:03 Mike napisał(a):
>
>> I've never used vip before and dont understand what steps I should do to
>> crash
>>
>> July 4, 2019 12:51 PM, "Alexander Burger" wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 02,
I've never used vip before and dont understand what steps I should do to crash
July 4, 2019 12:51 PM, "Alexander Burger" wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 06:58:21PM +0900, Alexander Burger wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:28:19AM +0200, Wojciech Gac wrote:
>> Weird... I've updated
+1
ok
July 4, 2019 12:51 PM, "Alexander Burger" wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 10:07:43AM +0900, Alexander Burger wrote:
>
>> Hi Wojtek, Mike,
>>
>> Speaking of readability, we could have a naming scheme not limited by the
>> 26 columns if we used l
July 1, 2019 5:50 PM, "Wojciech Gac" wrote:
> I see. Thanks for clarifying and for the example.
>
BTW, I have a huge collection of grid usage in my repo:
https://bitbucket.org/mihailp/tankfeeder/src/default/
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https://github.com/picolisp/picolisp/blob/dev/misc/setf.l
June 27, 2019 8:06 AM, "Bruno Franco" wrote:
> Soo, yeah. I'm studying common lisp, and coming from picolisp setf confused
> me at first. The
> concept does not seem to appear on picolisp, and I wondered why its not there.
>
> The
> I'm happy to announce that I released my small library to interfacing with
> PostgreSQL --
> https://gitlab.com/Abel-ze-Normand/pgint.l
Tested:
centos7 psql-9.2.xx -> works
voidlinux psql-9.6.xx -> works
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hi all,
My demo code to mimic racket's reference:
https://bitbucket.org/mihailp/tankfeeder/src/default/foldl.l
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quired in core.
What you intent to do ?
Truly, I cant imagine when somebody needs it, because
(foldl cons '() '(1 2 3 4)) is (reverse)
and
(foldl + 0 '(1 2 3 4)) is (sum)
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Hi all,
Irc channel #picolisp attacked by bots.
https://irclog.whitequark.org/picolisp/2018-08-01
Any ideas how to defend?
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ux.tgz
# gunzip x86-64.linux.tgz
# tar xf x86-64.linux.tar
# cd src64/
# make
# pil +
: (version)
18.7.14
-> (18 7 14)
: (== 1 1)
-> T
: *OS
-> "Linux"
:
Happy coding,
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>
> I don't know how to check whether on a rasp runs the 32bit or 64bit version
> of picolisp.
>
(unless (== 64 64)
(msg "pil64 required")
(bye 1) )
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>
> why would we want address sanitation?
Because i wanted check correctness.
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June 18, 2018 12:02 PM, "Jean-Christophe Helary" wrote:
> What is the content of that repository ?
as you can see just collection of picolisp code.
file huge.l contains the most important parts and used as unit test for
releases.
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https://bitbucket.org/mihailp/signify-pil/src
signify variation, tests and comments are welcome.
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> Why pretty is adding exactly 3 spaces at the new line?
I dont see spaces and colors when coding on PicoLisp, only cells in memory.
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native' then pil32 will be out of field.
Generic tables and lookup is enough for the next 20 years.
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items in product, sum all numbers:
o) coroutines - 1.9secs
o) manual - 1.4secs
Its ok.
Happy coding,
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Good bye Mike <mike.pech...@gmail.com> :-(
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and patches are welcome,
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Alfonso,
Make a post on reddit.com/r/lisp
> I've created a public Bitbucket repository with my work so far, including
> some examples.
> https://bitbucket.org/alfonsovillen/picolispffi
>
> I don't know if someone will be interested in it, but I'm having fun doing
> it.
>
hi,
good startpoints:
http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Stack#PicoLisp
http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Singly-linked_list/Element_definition#PicoLisp
On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 3:49 PM, stayfirefo...@outlook.com <
stayfirefo...@outlook.com> wrote:
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> Uh, oh, this is really tough.
Just one smart paragraph.
(mike)
hi all,
Can somebody answer to this ?
https://www.quora.com/unanswered/What-is-the-difference-between-PicoLisp-and-Common-Lisp
(mike)
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:05 PM, Jakob Eriksson
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> What does that mean?
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in general it means (rand) function generates good pseudo random numbers
checked by special software.
/rng/?at=default
Happy hacking,
(mike)
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yes.
Richard,
I've compile picoLisp under msys (http://www.msys2.org/)
and 'ctl' locking works here.
You should a try.
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 4:20 PM, Alexander Burger <a...@software-lab.de>
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> On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 02:27:34PM +0200, Richard Z wrote:
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On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Richard Z wrote:
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> noticed that the code still has
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> #ifdef __CYGWIN__
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> #define fcntl(fd,cmd,fl) 0
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on my cygwin it compiles and pass buildin tests without code above
https://bitbucket.org/mihailp/tankfeeder/src/70c0cfb9e8e3adf4737f70a23a9d4b615d74e4ff/onechar.l?at=default=file-view-default
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Christopher Howard <
christopher.how...@qlfiles.net> wrote:
> Hi list. In picolisp, what would be the simplest way to check if a
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