Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-06 Thread Nehal
lternative probably is gitlab which is free and git based >> >> >> >> Anyway there's no reason to change right now because github already >> >> was >> >> non-free and closed so there's nothing new with MS, just a closed >> company >> >

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-06 Thread pd
od before it could be good now Just sit down > to > >> see what MS is planning > >> > >> El Mar 05/06/2018, 8:45, Nehal escribió: > >> > >>> Dear PicoLisp programmers, > >>> > >>> Just see attached news of GitHub been sold out to Micr

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-06 Thread Nehal
nd closed so there's nothing new with MS, just a closed > company > >> swapping. If github was good before it could be good now Just sit down > to > >> see what MS is planning > >> > >> El Mar 05/06/2018, 8:45, Nehal escribió: > >> > >>&g

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-06 Thread Alexander Williams
ow because github already was >> non-free and closed so there's nothing new with MS, just a closed company >> swapping. If github was good before it could be good now Just sit down to >> see what MS is planning >> >> El Mar 05/06/2018, 8:45, Nehal escribió: >> >&

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-05 Thread Nehal
> While I personally are on your side here, I think people can end up for > instance loving Java and complex systems and at the same time hate > surveillance and centralisation. Yes, that's what I meant by *principle* -> *design* -> *philosophy*. > > // Jakob > > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE:

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-05 Thread Nehal
Hello Philipp, > Gitlab is also not totally free software. 1. I meant free in sense of "free speech", not "free beer" as Richard Stallman (gnu.org, stallman.org) would say! 2. https://motherboard.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/ywen8x/13000-projects-ditched-github-for-gitlab-monday-morning 3.

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-05 Thread Jakob Eriksson
> 5 juni 2018 kl. 14:05 skrev Nehal : > > Hello Jakob, > > I believe it's ultimately about principle -> design -> philosophy (of > course security features matter!) of any software/service. Otherwise > why even invest time on picolisp, Java (or similar others) would be > better! While I

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-05 Thread Philipp Geyer
Yes, that was my point, I will be sticking with Github for some time because of the social aspect, but I want to self host for other reasons. I don't think that Github's data mining or social features are particularly disgusting. Due to the nature of what it is, and the data that is provided to

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-05 Thread Nehal
Hello Jakob, > But if you dislike GitHub on > principle or because the data mining and the surveillance of the social > function is disgusting to you, you should not use it. I believe it's ultimately about principle -> design -> philosophy (of course security features matter!) of any

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-05 Thread Jakob Eriksson
THE selling point of github for individuals and small projects, is the social aspect. And you have to think about what you are securing yourself from. It’s not like GitHub is going to take your code and run. But if you dislike GitHub on principle or because the data mining and the surveillance

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-05 Thread Philipp Geyer
If you really want security then self hosting is the way to go. Everyone offers a self hosted solution, although some are more pricey than others. Github and Bitbucket self hosting. Github is $2.5k /10 users / year, Bitbucket is $2 / user / month. Gitlab also costs money if you don't want the

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-05 Thread pd
ready was >> non-free and closed so there's nothing new with MS, just a closed company >> swapping. If github was good before it could be good now Just sit down to >> see what MS is planning >> >> El Mar 05/06/2018, 8:45, Nehal escribió: >> >>> Dear

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-05 Thread Alexander Sharihin
o > see what MS is planning > > El Mar 05/06/2018, 8:45, Nehal escribió: > >> Dear PicoLisp programmers, >> >> Just see attached news of GitHub been sold out to Microsoft. Being former >> FSF licensing intern I strongly believe we now need to look forward to >>

Re: GitHub sold out to Microsoft

2018-06-05 Thread pd
is planning El Mar 05/06/2018, 8:45, Nehal escribió: > Dear PicoLisp programmers, > > Just see attached news of GitHub been sold out to Microsoft. Being former > FSF licensing intern I strongly believe we now need to look forward to > another free code hosting platform in or