Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-03-02 Thread Jean Daubas
- Original Message - From: G.Penate pen...@home.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 6:55 PM Paper or film won't bend around a tight sphere, only a cylinder. Some months ago, I tried to build a small spherical film plane camera around a tennis

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-28 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: Richard M. Koolish kool...@bbn.com A spherical film plane would eliminate one of the cosine squared factors in illumination, but leave the other one. That's right, it eliminates the one COS^2 factor to account for inverse square law, also eliminates

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-28 Thread Richard M. Koolish
A spherical shaped film plane would be ideal to maximize the edge sharpness, I guess I should say: to minimize edge softness (instead), as well as minimizing the fall-off. Practically, though, cylindrical is the shape most suitable to accomodate either film or paper. I believe that in one

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
I think I've seen this, but can't remember where. Pam G.Penate wrote: ... there is a picture of a guy that made a spherical film plate dug in the ground and BW paper placed to conform the shape of the hole. Guillermo ___ Pinhole-Discussion

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
equally sharp all the way around. - Original Message - From: Pam Niedermayer pam_p...@cape.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures How spherical would the film plane have to be to get

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread William Erickson
this there is minimal distortion at the edges and its equally sharp all the way around. - Original Message - From: Pam Niedermayer pam_p...@cape.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures How spherical would

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: Pam Niedermayer pam_p...@cape.com This means the spherically shaped film holder would have to be different for each focal length. Ouch. :) A spherical shaped film plane would be ideal to maximize the edge sharpness, I guess I should say: to minimize edge

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Thanks, George, that's what I was trying to confirm. I should have said something more like the distance from pinhole to film plane would be the radius of the sphere. This means the spherically shaped film holder would have to be different for each focal length. Ouch. :) Pam George L Smyth

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread George L Smyth
--- Pam Niedermayer pam_p...@cape.com wrote: How spherical would the film plane have to be to get to sharp edges? Let's say I'm building an 8x10 pinhole camera (which I am), and wanted to build a special curved film holder. Should the spere be around the distance from pinhole to film center,

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
How spherical would the film plane have to be to get to sharp edges? Let's say I'm building an 8x10 pinhole camera (which I am), and wanted to build a special curved film holder. Should the spere be around the distance from pinhole to film center, the pinhole being the center of the sphere? Pam

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread William Erickson
I'd guess that edge softness is a product of the fact that the plane of optimal sharpness is a hemisphere centered aroiund the hole, and the film plane is flat, transecting the optimal image best at the center, or if rounded, not rounded at the same radius. - Original Message - From: Simon

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: Simon Cygielski si...@wbj.pl I've uploaded a couple of my first efforts with my 6x17 cm panoramic pinhole camera. They're up at http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/path1.jpg and http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/phones2.jpg Wow,

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Very cool. As to edge sharpness, is the film supported all the way across by rails of some sort? Is it possible that in building the extension the ends went off plane? Or (can you tell I'm just guessing here? g) maybe the rails need to be curved just a bit to accommodate the hole. Pam Simon

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread George L Smyth
--- Simon Cygielski si...@wbj.pl wrote: I also have a question: is the loss of sharpness on the far edges inevitable, or can it be corrected somehow? perhaps thinner stock? This hole was made (fairly carefully) out of a Coke can I would definitely say that thinner stock would be appropriate.

Re: [pinhole-discussion] couple of pictures

2001-02-27 Thread James Kellar
on 2/27/01 4:56 AM, Simon Cygielski at si...@wbj.pl wrote: Hi all, I've uploaded a couple of my first efforts with my 6x17 cm panoramic pinhole camera. They're up at http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/path1.jpg and http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/phones2.jpg