Re: [pinhole-discussion] process vs product

2001-03-22 Thread Guy Glorieux
I find this beginning thread very interesting. Process is at the root of what we do as pinholers. This is a craftmanship process which leads to a product that is in many ways unique. Much more so than in lens photography, although there can be a lot of process in lens photography. But I tend

Re: [pinhole-discussion] process vs product

2001-03-22 Thread FotoRR
Don't forget presentation. i.e. process, product, presentation. Richard Rodgers fot...@aol.com

[pinhole-discussion] Updated website

2001-03-22 Thread Tina Martin
Shameless self promotion - I have finally updated my website. I think most of the pinhole and zone plate work has been shown already, but if anyone wants to look, visit www.tinamartin.com (no more banner ads!) Tina _ Get

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-22 Thread John Yeo
I'm (re)taking basic photo in high school because of a schedule conflict... I would say that the majority of the people in the class are just there because it's an easy class to get out of. 10 min into the period, most of the class is out taking pictures. I don't really mind because it leaves

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-22 Thread Biams
What is it with these students? Or rather, at what age do you begin to be a student with awareness of the process and your responsibilities? Same at my high school teaching gig. . . Lot's of excuses. How's adult ed? -Barb p.s. How's Keep on Pinholin Tom doing? Haven't seen him on the list

[pinhole-discussion] process vs product

2001-03-22 Thread ethereal art
My undergraduate major was printmaking, specifically lithography. My professor once told me that it doesn't matter what you do or how hard the process is...it's the end result that people see. Well, that's true cause all we see of each other are the postings/jpegs, the websites, the Worldwide

[pinhole-discussion] Hardware or Art?

2001-03-22 Thread Michael Georgoff (SAL-US)
I found this somewhere a long time ago, figured it was appropriate now: This reminds me of a true story of a famous photographer, who was well known for his amazing portrait shots who was commissioned to photograph a famous newspaper reporter. The photographer took the reporter's portrait and

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-22 Thread Ballard Borich
THANKS TINA Ballard On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 14:55:47 Tina Martin tima...@hotmail.com writes: We all have a bit of the hardware geek in us, or we wouldn't be building (and dismantling) all these cameras! Guess my point was that people shouldn't get hung up on the 'right or wrong' way to do

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-22 Thread Ballard Borich
I like equipment. I like finished photos. There are a lot of different cameras in the world. There are a lot of different people using them in a lot of different ways. The only photographer I need to view critically is myself. Ballard

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-22 Thread Tina Martin
We all have a bit of the hardware geek in us, or we wouldn't be building (and dismantling) all these cameras! Guess my point was that people shouldn't get hung up on the 'right or wrong' way to do things, although craft IS important if you care about your work. Long live geeks of all stripes!

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-22 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: William Erickson erick...@ic.mankato.mn.us Our fathers house has many mansions. In any interest groups there's always the hardware nuts and the process geeks. Honor our brothers. (Sort of delphic, don't you think?) Amen to that! That's the way it's always

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Portra Portra

2001-03-22 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: Tom Miller twmil...@mr.net same way as the Pro100T. Shooting in daylight, the Portra 100T has a strong blue cast throughout the light areas of the image Here is possible explanation: Blue wavelength scatters more than Red (at the opposite end of the visible

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-22 Thread William Erickson
Our fathers house has many mansions. In any interest groups there's always the hardware nuts and the process geeks. Honor our brothers. (Sort of delphic, don't you think?) - Original Message - From: Mike Vande Bunt mike.vandeb...@mixcom.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent:

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-22 Thread Colin Talcroft
Photography is a craft, the camera a photographer's most important tool. Craftsman rightly have a deep respect for their tools--love their tools even--, but any craftsman should know that he will be judged by the results of his labor, not by the tools he puts to use. Honor your gadgets (whether

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-22 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 3/22/01 1:54:14 AM, norl...@aol.com writes: Gee Mr. Norlin I've been gone for two weeks -did I miss anything? No dear, we just put the class on pause waiting for your return. Some days I almost wish I was back in the infantry. :-) Painfully familiar. leezy

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-22 Thread NORLINK
Sorry if I was a little hard on the hardware geeks. Least anyone think I am anti-tech, I work mostly in digital imaging, teach digital photography, and am currently plotting how to get my grubby hands on an Olympus E-10 camera. My only excuse is that it's almost the end of the quarter, and I am

[pinhole-discussion] Portra Portra

2001-03-22 Thread Tom Miller
(This is part of a message sent to the list last week; but I think the list server was down at the time. Just in case this seems familiar...) Dear All, I've used Kodak Pro100T 4x5 tungsten balanced film for color pinhole and zone plate for three years and started using it because it was made

Re: [pinhole-discussion] Hardware geeks

2001-03-22 Thread Mike Vande Bunt
Yes. That's why I dropped out of the Toy Camera group. The whole idea behind using a poor quality plastic lensed camera is to show that one can make a good photo (though perhaps not a sharp photo...) with poor quality equipment. It forces the photographer to concentrate on the photographic