: they are unlikely to want to use it after the first
attempt...
The big advantage is that you don't need a darkroom or changing bag to
load film.
Mike Vande Bunt
Guillermo wrote:
That dremel drill bit is defenitely a good one to use, it is bit #125 and
you can make holes of up to 1/4 with it.
BTW
If the camera has a curved film plane, there will be no fall off.
Mike Vande Bunt
Andrew Amundsen wrote:
The camera is said to have a 60mm focal length. Does anyone have
experience with images made that wide, nearly 8.5 inches, from such a
focal lenth (at f/360) on 120 film? Are the edges
pinhole body cap on a film camera.)
Mike Vande Bunt
P.S. The opening is hundreds of times larger when you're changing
lenses compared to the
TINY pinhole. I would expect that a single lens change could introduce
more dust than a full day of shooting with the pinhole cap...
Ed Nazarko wrote
Did the photocopy include the plates numbered above XV? In the PDF the
text mentions plates numbering up to IXX that are not present.
Mike Vande Bunt
John Yeo wrote:
That's not supposed to happen... there's something wrong with your computer.
Thanks for posting this nick, I got
of the zone plate the exposures will still be relatively short --
seconds rather than minutes.
Mike Vande Bunt
P.S. The mirror in The Button should not have a serious effect on the
light intensity that gets to the film.
claudia smith wrote:
I successfully (that means it still works) converted
is the frame rate of television in North America,
but that rate has little to do with the physiology of vision, and more
to do with practical electronics (hint: the frequency of house current
in N. Amer. is 60 herz).
Mike Vande Bunt
Steve Bell wrote:
a little fact that may help:
when
. That being the case, you will need to arange for the
smoothest possible background, OR a background that is very dark (i.e.
light the subject, don't light the background).
Mike Vande Bunt
Mark Andrews wrote:
I am novice pinhole photographer looking for some advice regarding shooting
still
Well said! (You don't have to pay royalties to Mel Torme for the use of
that line, do you?) ;-)
Mike Vande Bunt
Guillermo wrote:
Though its been said many times, many ways Merry Christmas to (all of) you!
Guillermo
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Thanks for the responses, If I make a pinhole camera out of an old polaroid will it still develop the pictures in camera?
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scanning and printing hardware, so I don't use it for PRINTING
my pinhole shots (which are mostly on Polaroid). I use scanning to share
pinhole images, though.
Mike Vande Bunt
I Zarkov wrote:
Lisa has expressed exactly my apprehensions about what I read here
daily about the marriage
with; it is
good if you WANT to get unespectedly artistic shots...)
Mike Vande Bunt
(Who actually invented the name PinHolga in a online forun or 6 years
ago...)
. And the Polaroid version is
overpriced at $100.)
Mike Vande Bunt
James Kellar wrote:
I was wondering if any one else saw this on ebay? Has any one heard of
this camera? Seems a bit over priced?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1395685792
James
James Kellar
Co-manager
(it ia almost fool proof) no matter how old it is.
Mike Vande Bunt
Steve Bell wrote:
Hey everyone,
I've another question. I'm really interested in making a pinhole camera
with a 4x5 polaroid back. does anyone have any information or tips for me?
my main question would be, does it matter how old
protection should
always be worn when working with chemicals.
If you're not a trained chemist (as I am), you are better off to not buy
concentrated nitric acid, but instead buy a dilute solution. Much safer.
Mike Vande Bunt
Jean Hanson wrote:
Dear Dennis, Just forget the nitric acid
As of late Friday evening (the 18th) the albumen.stanford.edu site is up.
Mike Vande Bunt
George L Smyth wrote:
--- Gordon J. Holtslander hol...@duke.usask.ca wrote:
One of the best books on salt printing (and albumen printing) is
The Albumen and Salted Paper Book by James Reilly - its
by a factor of 100. (And don't think that the extra money is
because it it really well made -- because well made and Holga
cannot be used in the same sentence...)
Mike Vande Bunt
lawrencebbin...@aol.com wrote:
have any of you seen the polga camera? it is a holga with a polaroid
back
the camera.
Another list member advocated holding the filter in front of the pinhole
and moving it constsantly diring the exposure. This keeps any dust or
imprefections from being recorded on the film.
Mike Vande Bunt
Andy Schmitt wrote:
good instinct since everything in front gets focus
wach exposure which pulled a new negative to the front of the pack.
Mike Vande Bunt
lawrencebbin...@aol.com wrote:
a little off topic. i just got a handful of film holders and a couple
of film pack adapters that came with them. can anyone tell me how the
film pack adapter is used. also
).
Mike Vande Bunt
I Zarkov wrote:
Hello to all,
Does anyone know of a U.S. supplier that has a copy of the Tim Rudman
book on Lith printing? Amazon lists it, but with a 5 week delivery
time. Online search only finds me UK bookstores.
Many thanks,
Zarkov
I think that Andrew Davidhazy has some info on his web site (try a web
search
for his last name...) on making a slit-scan digital camera from a cheap
photo scanner.
Mike Vande Bunt
eco...@aol.com wrote:
With all the discussion now centred on scanners, I wondered if anyone had
tried
photography.
Mike Vande Bunt
of it!) take a look at www.graflex.org
Mike Vande Bunt
Uptown Gallery wrote:
This may be off topic, but the breadth of knowledge within this group may
provide me an answer (off list , if necessary).
I would like to understand (actually, analyze) the operation of a focal
plane shutter, for the purpose
.
Mike Vande Bunt
Howard Wells wrote:
Gina,
I haven't fiddled with the shutter at all. By using 600 film and large
pinholes (somewhere in the f100 range) I'm still within the exposure
range the camera was built for. Smaller pinholes might also work but
probably only in bright light.
Howard
gina
.
The best answer that I can think of to the question What size pinhole
should I put in my camera? is: Use the size that will produce the type
of photo that you want. In other words, the answer is That depends...
Mike Vande Bunt
(WPPD2 #97)
.
The cassettes used for loading bulk film would be perfect for that.
They are available at any of the online or mail order stores that sell
bulk film reloading supplies.
Mike Vande Bunt
film strips to something like
8 inches wide by 4 or 5 feet long they would work well in a gallery
setting. (A sort of Andy Warhol style of anti-film film...)
Mike Vande Bunt
aaron wrote:
hello all. thought i might share with you something i have been working
on; a pinhole movie.
http://www
that. 35mm slides are 2 inches
square on the outside dimension.)
Mike Vande Bunt
R Duarte wrote:
Hi. Stupid question.. if I buy and shoot 120 slide film in my Zero2000, are
the slides the same size as the ones I get from 35mm film? ie: can I use
them in an ordinary slide projector or viewer
I notice that the caption describes a photon seive as containing
tens of thousands of pinholes. This does not sound like a very
easy device to produce.
Mike Vande Bunt
Richard M. Koolish wrote:
There may be a new kind of zone plate called the 'photon sieve'. Instead of
using clear
Neat. Have you thought of gluing the paint brush to the
lid to act as both additional disguise and a handle?
Mike Vande Bunt
Kosinski Family wrote:
leezy jack, here's the upload address of the picture that shows what the
Little Merlin looks like with the Custom Paints label, lots of fun
Captiva film. (Specifically, 3.4 x 2.1 inches.)
Also, the camera is quite expensive; it's another of those
place the back back in the camera for processing deals.
Mike Vande Bunt
P.S. Howard, you could scan those SX-70 prints and use
a computer to flip then left to right...
I think I've figured out why I like the way your
Bender pinhole camera puts that vignette at the
top of the image: It reminds me of the shape of
the photos used in the old stereo viewer cards.
Mike Vande Bunt
Steve Wilson wrote:
I continue to be amazed at the detail of pinhole images
Just a guess, but since Polaroid Corp. is currently
involved in a reorganization to avoid bankruptcy
they may have put on hold products targeted at
a specialty market...
Mike Vande Bunt
Gregg Kemp wrote:
At 11:49 AM 1/12/02 -0800, you wrote:
(forwarded from the polaroid_enthusiasts list
It actually makes for an interesting photo with
the vignette there.
The e-mail system split the line that the url was on
(see copy below), but amyone wanting to see the
image can just go to the 2002 section of the
glaaery and look for officesurf.jpg to see it.
Mike Vande Bunt
Steve Wilson
pinhole camera.
Polaroid called that model the Automatic 100
to distinguish it from the older roll film model 100,
which used manual exposure setting. (And it really
does say Automatic 100 right on the camera: I
own 2 of them.)
Mike Vande Bunt
james...@aol.com wrote:
Mike Vande Bunt said
camera. The film is still
being made and the metal camera body has a tripod socket.
Mike Vande Bunt
P.S. Check The Land List at the url below -- if the listing says
film no longer available, believe it!
Ray Esposito wrote:
Thanks Mike. I am looking at a 95A and a 95B. Can you recomend
bellows that I bought for the lens/shutter, so I know that the
lens can be easilly be removed leaving a place for the Pinhole.)
Unfortunately, the converted models often cost in the $200
range!
Mike Vande Bunt
Ray Esposito wrote:
Thanks Mike. I am looking at a 95A and a 95B. Can you recomend
or 8 months ago I promised to give some
detailed conversion instructions here and I have not done
so. I really will try to get that done in the next couple of weeks!
Mike Vande Bunt
the 'lens flare' for it to be visible in the viewfinder??)
Mike Vande Bunt
.
You actually need less space in the changing bag for roll film than
you would for 4x5 (where you need space for the film box AND
the film holder AND space to withdraw the dark slide...).
Mike Vande Bunt
Murray wrote:
Polaroid Square Shooter 2 -- Film no longer available
Polaroid Color Pack 2 -- Film still available
Polaroid Automatic 210 -- Film still available
Kodak Pleaser Instant Camera -- Film no longer available
Mike Vande Bunt
restrictions that come with a
single shutter speed and lens opening...). I'm pretty sure that the
lens is actually glass. Go ahead and get a second one for pinhole.
Mike Vande Bunt
shot produced a neat effect.
I especially like the distorted self portrait in the mirrored ball.
Mike Vande Bunt
Michael Keller wrote:
BTW, don't confuse Outlook with Outlook Express. OE is the toy program.g
By built-in I meant built in to MS Office (Outlook), not
built in to every copy of Windows ever produced (Outlook Express).
Mike
, but I don't think
that the built in programs such as Outlook and Netscape Mail
can do that.
Mike Vande Bunt
Michael Keller wrote:
An additional data point: in Outlook I can filter using the From: address,
and since all the email comes from pinhole-discussion, it would be easy
enough to use
I often receive over 100 e-mails per day. It it VERY usefull to me
to have the pinhole list message subjects identified with the
[pinhole-discussion] prefix. I would certainly support shortening
the prefix to [pinhole] to allow more space for the real subject.
Mike Vande Bunt
Ricardo
by the camera's original shutter.)
Mike Vande Bunt
I haven't had a chance to read the press release yet, but there
is a possible answer to the color shift problems. Polaroid makes
a bw version of their 600 intrgral film. No color shift (!) and
reciprocity failure just needs an exposure correction.
Mike Vande Bunt
Guillermo wrote
film -- the camera is a Kodak Monitor Six-20...) How
soon can we expest to see some sample sxposures, Guillermo?
Mike Vande Bunt
Guy Glorieux wrote:
Guillermo wrote:
-My latest one, just finished it yesterday!, an Agfa 6x6 folder purchased at
eBay for $9 converted to a 36mm pinhole camera
Reportedly (www.graflex.org) the 545 back CAN be used
with Fiji Quickloads and the Kodak equivalent that I can't
seem to remember the name of. (Though the correct holders
for those film loads are cheaer than a 545 if you have no
interest in using Polaroid materials...)
Mike Vande Bunt
Sally
Don't use the 3000 speed bw film unless you have an
actual shutter; the exposures are usually in the fraction
of a second range. WITH a shutter it is a great film to use
becaue you can hand hold the camera. (I have used it in
a Speed Graphic with pinhole.)
Mike Vande Bunt
Ann King wrote
Ilfochrome is a direct positive paper used to
make prints from slides. A transparency
version of Ilfochrome would be redundant.
Just use transparency film if you want a
transparency.
Mike Vande Bunt
Gordon J. Holtslander wrote:
Hi:
Does anyone know if ilfochrome is available
As I recall, you can actually use coffee as a developer!
Mike Vande Bunt
Edward Meyers wrote:
Although the packaged chemicals might not be around, the individual
chemicals will be. Just mix your ownif you're here 50 years from now.
Ed
to photographic paper.
Mike Vande Bunt
Scott Sellers wrote:
I believe once the silver halides are exposed, they become less
stable, and remain so until developed/fixed. I don't know
the effects on the image, or what time frame we're
talking about. In any case, I think keeping the paper/film cool
Many great shots. I enjoy the Contemporary Pinhole Photography # X
issues because they contain such a wide variety of interesting photos.
Great work by everyone involved!
Mike Vande Bunt
Gregg Kemp wrote:
Thanks James. And yes, it was pretty neat to see one of my photos there
on the cover
Gregg Kemp wrote:
That's a good one, Guillermo. I think Mike gave himself away when he
called it Cibachrome.
I also sometimes use the term centigrade . . .
Mike
I did a lot of Cibachrome printing in the 70's . . . Cibachrome is
extremely non-temperature sensitive. I never had bad color
on a Ciba, and I mostly used the chemistry slightly cooler than
room temperature.
Mike Vande Bunt
eric nelson wrote:
An old sage from a camera club dropped this pearl
Vande Bunt
That's photo number 54, in case anyone is having
trouble pasting the url back into one piece after it
was mangled by the e-mail system.
Mike Vande Bunt
skip crawford wrote:
look at
http://www.pinholeday.org/exhibition/index.php?formName=EXHIBITf_action=req
uestf_rec=55f_fieldName
of Polaroid films in general. I have a book that
he wrote in 1960 on the subject. (Well, technically he wrote most
of the book -- there were a few chapters by other photographers.)
Mike Vande Bunt
Vande Bunt
Christian Harkness wrote:
Hi,
I have a 4x5-pinhole camera that accepts 4x5 film holders. What kind of
Polaroid back can I use with it? I assume the regular 4x5 Polaroid back will
work fine. However, what is the 405 Film Pack Back/Holder, and will it work?
Many thanks - for some
The stuff you can do digitally with a program such as Photoshop
goes way beyond alchemy and into the realm of wizardry!
Mike Vande Bunt
aa...@deadlettertype.com wrote:
what's missing from most digital photorgaphy is alchemy. what started as a
largely chemical process has
You mean aside from bracketing widely?;-)
Mike Vande Bunt
pinholeren...@netscape.net wrote:
I wanted to hear from other pinholer's about their technique for finding the
correct exposure . I have tried the black cat find it somewhat helpfull . I
am not into math equations [ had to go
for me) have come out. Eventually I will have
to try color, but I really like the the automatic exposure system.
By the way, Asylum Dementia is a great photograph!
Mike Vande Bunt
James Kellar wrote:
I will be in Chicago at the end of June for 3 days. I know that there is an
Edward Weston at the The Art Institute of Chicago, which I plan to see.
It's not _just_ an Edward Weston. The Art Institute has a rather substantial
collection of photography.
Mike Vande Bunt
Wow! All the pinhole photos are great.
Are the PTG people going to make those modifications
standard, or will they continue to be a custom set up?
Mike Vande Bunt
William Logan wrote:
I have just completed the first roll from the modified PTG 4x5.. the
camera is the same as before
sites with advice (and even a discussion forum)
on the subject.
Mike Vande Bunt
dibas...@aol.com wrote:
I just got a Diana camera with a flash and was wondering if anyone knew
whether flash bulbs were still available, and if so where? If anyone has any
suggestions for interesting play
is not how the photo was taken, but THAT
the photo was taken.
Mike Vande Bunt
for a good positive,
in which case the negative is slightly thin, or over expose
the print slightly in order to get a that will print well.
Unfortunately, you can't get both a good negative and
a good positive from the same exposure.
Mike Vande Bunt
edition.
Mike Vande Bunt
dibas...@aol.com wrote:
I have fallen in love with color pinhole/zone and I have been using 120 color
film in the Zero 2000. I was wondering if one could use color paper in a
oatmeal box camera as one uses black and white paper. If so, does anyone
have recommendations
on continuously -- if you were meant to make
the exposure by plugging it in and unplugging it there
would be no reasin the have the safe ligh window!)
Mike Vande Bunt
Sarah O wrote:
Hello-
I just joined this group as I am hoping to take up my
pinhole photography again. I am curious about contact
Nice shots. How are you converting the light meter
readings into pinhole exposure times (i.e. reciprocity
and such)?
Mike Vande Bunt
Stephen Rowley wrote:
I am finding that the convenience of the 120 roll
film pinhole camera has opened up so many new
opportunities to see the world
I think that the way it works is that a light ray will exit at the same
axial angle that it entered, but the radial angle may change. This will
probably cause some loss of sharpness (not an unxpected effect
in pinhole work!) If the effect were totally random, fibers would
not be able to transmit
Simon Cygielski wrote:
I think you might be mistaken. Light travels through a fiber cable not
'straight' through along its centerline, but by reflecting many times
off the sides of its interior. The walls of the cable serve as an
incredibly long, flexible mirror (at very obtuse angles
Guy Glorieux wrote:
I don't have a standard print of the lith print I posted yesterday. But I
just posted a lith print of a pinhole image I had already uploaded earlier
this year on the gallery (Rose in winter).
To see the difference, check:
http://www.p at
is? (It is hard to tell if contrast / tonality is due to it being
pinhole, or to the lith printmaking process.)
Mike Vande Bunt
Guy Glorieux wrote:
Hi everybody!
Really this has been busy times for me lately. But, it seems I just
can't stop... I received last week my first Lith Printing kit
Very nice. I like blurry and impressionistic. (This is interesting
because one of the things that the impressionist painters were
rebelling against was that sharp [some said stark] reality captured
by the then new process of photography...)
Mike Vande Bunt
Guy Glorieux wrote:
It was Sprind
process in a way that is absent when a super high-tech auto
everything camera is doing the work.
The problem was that many of the Toy Camera group members
were just as fixated on the hardware (Chinese plastic, instead
of Swedish steel...) as the Hassy fanatics.
Mike Vande Bunt
Tina Martin wrote
Wow! Those are great. I've been meaning to get some of that
Portra film to try out -- now I definitely will. I don't think I could
hold even a PinHolga (which weighs almost nothing) still for 2
minutes. That's whit I don't use the camera much: I need to glue
a tripod mount on to it.
Mike
I don't have any photos of the camera. There are instructions
on the web on how to take apart the holga shutter and convert
it for long exposures, but I just use the lens cap. (Or, if you
want a shorter focal length, use the traditional black electrical
tape as a shutter.
Mike
Camera artists didn't
show any interest, so I moved over to this group.
Mike Vande Bunt
G.Penate wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Simon Cygielski si...@wbj.pl
I bought mine in a second-hand store in Krakow, Poland.
Souped up means they have a glass lens (worse than the plastic one
.)
Mike Vande Bunt
G.Penate wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Dan Gerber dger...@adobe.com
No, I haven't done anything yet. (just bought a 118 year old house, can
you
say projects?;-) I'm still looking at getting an Agfa ephoto smile, and
taking it apart. I've spotted some that can
Too late I realized that we missed out on listing
Planetary Lensless Imaging Rotation
as one of the options. Fortunately, nearly every
other permutation was present.
;-)
Mike Vande Bunt
The other reason to avoid summer is that summer does not
happen at the same time in both hemispheres...
Mike Vande Bunt
Gregg Kemp wrote:
At 07:59 PM 3/1/01 -0600, you wrote:
Whatever month is voted in, stating the date as the Last Sunday of
would allow it to apply to future years
photos taken on the same day worldwide. If it takes
the rest of this month to get the word out, there will
STILL be a month for people outside this group to
plan for the day.
Mike Vande Bunt
color tinting show up. (I have only printed
very few BW images as yet, but one reason I chose this printer
was that a couple of online reviews reported that it worked well for
printing BW photos.)
Mike Vande Bunt
William Erickson wrote:
I have been printing my paper negatives via photoshop
voted for the 29th of April because I knew that it would be
on a Sunday this year and there was no entry for last Sunday
in April, which is not the same as 4th Sunday in April.
Mike Vande Bunt
...
Mike Vande Bunt
on a roll
would seem pretty hard to do.
Mike Vande Bunt
G.Penate wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Mike Vande Bunt mike.vandeb...@mixcom.com
No. There is no mirror. The film is wrapped around the
inside of the tube and the pinhole is in the center of one end.
Is the film plane
YES! Pin-Whole Earth I like that name a lot!
(And Pinholes Without Borders is so good also
that I think we should consider that as a subtitle.)
Mike Vande Bunt
dalf...@aol.com wrote:
How about Pinholes With Out Borders as a title,. or logo , that would imply
global, yes , ? or Pin-Whole
I will guess that the opening in the washer exposes 7 teeth of
the saw blades, resulting in 7 pinholes in a line. You have
7 images superimposed. It's a neat effect, I like the self-portrait
that you posted!
Mike Vande Bunt
figuref...@aol.com wrote:
ok everyone,
The results are in.This
Should we contact Rick Smolan about doing a book for
A Day in the Life of Pinhole Photography? ;-)
Mike Vande Bunt
G.Penate wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Zernike Au zern...@zeroimage.com
Can we have a day for the pinholers from all over the world?
Good idea!
I'd suggest
, where the edges of the camera housing start to intrude
on the image...)
Mike Vande Bunt
dibas...@aol.com wrote:
A friend ( not a pinhole person) suggested I find a used 4x5 speed graphic
press camera and convert to pinhole. I noticed quite a few on ebay and
wondered whether anybody has
The photos in the Dreamagon article in Shutterbug look quite a bit
different from the majority of the samples on the web site. Many
of the web sample images were shot a a higher f/ stop for a less
extreme' effect. It is when the lens is wide open (f/4) that the
images are similar to zone plate.
the window.
Mike Vande Bunt
joebe...@aol.com wrote:
I finally got my Zero 6x6cm camera in and it is a beauty. One question
bothers me though. Can you use TriX film in it? Wondering about fog from the
red filmcounter window for such a fast film. Presently have Verichrome pan
ASA 125 loaded
Kosinski Family wrote:
These images are interesting, but only this week! It's just the old Vaseline
on the lens trick, but more expensive. You can take 2 daylight filters and
put the gooey stuff in between them to make a carry along special effect...
and you can change the effect any time you
of a commercial photographer,
this is not a gimmick, just another tool. From the standpoint of us
amateurs, it's an expensive ($250 US) gimmick that gives results
we can achieve with more work at very little cost.
It all comes down to how badly one needs the speed and releability.
Mike Vande Bunt
, but
the distributor has gone ou of business. Photographers in the US
will need to order the lens direct from Germany.)
Mike Vande Bunt
Tom Miller wrote:
Check the samples at www.dreamagon.com. They look a lot like zone
plate images. Hard to believe its a lens
for the sanding a dimple method
of drilling a pinhole is to thin the metal so that the walls of the
hole are as short as possible.)
Mike Vande Bunt
Larry Fratkin wrote:
Jim,
It was exactly like using other pinholes. The exposure always ends up
taking 1/2 to 1 more stop than my calculator shows
libraray should have it.
(It is something very simple like the focal length is equal to the diameter
or something like that.)
Mike Vande Bunt
It takes about a month for the batteries to run out.
That's a VERY long exposure, even for pinhole!
Mike
dalf...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 1/10/01 8:12:21 AM Central Standard Time,
aschm...@warwick.net writes:
Take a risk once in a while!
Leave the fancy stuff home.
What y'all
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