[pinhole-discussion] Re: [pinhole-discussion] A NEW DEBATE

2002-01-16 Thread Mark Interrante
I agree that time is one of the dimensions that I really enjoy when experiencing the pinhole camera. I started taking night photography last year which has 1-30 minute exposures and that experience taught me that capturing time and motion over time was a very different experience.

Re: [pinhole-discussion] A NEW DEBATE

2002-01-15 Thread CMCBE123
thank you leezy, and thanks for my first pinhole camera! Christine, How nice to hear your voice. leezy

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2002-01-15 Thread Barry Woods
Hi, I'm a photography student beginning to use pinhole cameras to make images because of the aesthetic... I'm interested in the circular images fading away to black and also the way that they have a soft diffused feel to them.. and I don't want to depress anyone here, but my work has a sense of

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2002-01-15 Thread Lisa Reddig
alexis writes: My background is that of a painter but I am also a science graduate so I suppose I fall between two camps. I remember when I switched my major in college from Engineering to Photography and the head photo teacher said that was not at all strange. Science and Photography are very

Re: [pinhole-discussion] A NEW DEBATE

2002-01-15 Thread Lisa Reddig
TIME! It is all about the time of the thing... Jack I like that. Not that I do really long exposures, but it's true. Even 5 seconds is way more noticable than 1/125. With all of my camera's it takes time to reload the film, I'm not just advancing film through a camera. So there's more

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2002-01-15 Thread Jack Duganne
TIME! It is all about the time of the thing... I have shot pinhole images that take anywhere from 10 seconds to one week or two. I can live life during those times. I can have memories of a life lived and experiences had during the exposure of those images. I can remember things that I did

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2002-01-14 Thread Chuck Flagg
I choose to work with pinhole because of the sheer simple ability to poke a hole in foil, or a recycled pop can, put on a box or can put some paper or film and capture an image. It is all about the magic that happens in the process. I'm aware of the science involved and I have learned so much

Re: [pinhole-discussion] A NEW DEBATE

2002-01-14 Thread Lisa Reddig
I am so happy that we are talking about the WHY of pinhole. I have been keeping an eye on this list for a while, and alot of the technical talk is not for me (don't get me wrong, some of it is really helpful if it pertains to what I am working on). My major Why's fall in to the following 3

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2002-01-14 Thread Kosinski Family
alexis writes: My background is that of a painter but I am also a science graduate so I suppose I fall between two camps. art science are inseparable these days, two sides of the same coin... even if you're purely an artist you depend on science for the materials you use in science, the real

[pinhole-discussion] RE:A NEW DEBATE

2002-01-13 Thread Tom Hawkins
Wotcher all, I haven't commented for a while but here's my contribution to the new debate and thanks for precipitating it Alexis ;-) I think that the reason a lot of the debate on this list concerns the how and not the what is because of the glorious variety of ways in which a lensless image can

Re: [pinhole-discussion] A NEW DEBATE

2002-01-13 Thread DAlfrey
In a message dated 1/13/02 4:12:12 PM Central Standard Time, hol...@duke.usask.ca writes: I use pinhole camera because it reinterprets reality. I usually use cameras that introduce at least some distortion and some cameras that distort a great deal. I am struck by the way that the camera

[pinhole-discussion] a new debate

2002-01-13 Thread Bill Erickson
Science or art? Science ensures that is titanium yellow is always titanium yellow. Art makes yellow things. Style or content? As has already been noted, they mate. What is pinhole all about? About involving the operator more in the process, about technical minimalism, about points of view

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2002-01-13 Thread Gordon J. Holtslander
Hi: I use pinhole camera because it reinterprets reality. I usually use cameras that introduce at least some distortion and some cameras that distort a great deal. I am struck by the way that the camera sees the world in a substantially different manner than I do. The image is a real image,

Re: [pinhole-discussion] A NEW DEBATE

2002-01-13 Thread ragowaring
at ??? Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] A NEW DEBATE I would like to open up a debate. I feel it is time we discussed critically what we are doing. Not a critiscism of individual works or persons but a debate on our aims, purposes and motivation

Re: [pinhole-discussion] A NEW DEBATE

2002-01-13 Thread ragowaring
at ??? Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] A NEW DEBATE I would like to open up a debate. I feel it is time we discussed critically what we are doing. Not a critiscism of individual works or persons but a debate on our aims, purposes and motivation.We

Re: [pinhole-discussion] A NEW DEBATE

2002-01-13 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 1/13/02 8:52:03 AM, ragowar...@btinternet.com writes: Some of us are very interested in technique and some in content, obviously the two should work together one informing the other, but what do you think? I think you are bringing up a very important point and thank you for

Re: [pinhole-discussion] A NEW DEBATE

2002-01-13 Thread ragowaring
I would like to open up a debate. I feel it is time we discussed critically what we are doing. Not a critiscism of individual works or persons but a debate on our aims, purposes and motivation.We hardly ever talk about why and what we are doing, almost always how. What is more important,