Re: [PLUG] trying to satisfy everyone's critiques on missing man pages for executables

2024-03-23 Thread Russell Senior
Try this: for i in $(echo $PATH | awk 'BEGIN { RS=":" } { print $0 }') ; do find $i -type f -executable -print0 | xargs -0 file ; done | grep ELF | sort | uniq | less I got about 2000 lines. On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 10:16 PM American Citizen wrote: > I am attempting to provide enough

[PLUG] Brave Browser Video Issue

2024-03-23 Thread Dick Steffens
I've just run the latest updates from Ubuntu for my Xubuntu machines, which included Brave browser. In each case, video does no longer display. Audio works, and is the audio for the video I'm trying to watch. I can successfully watch the same URL with Firefox, so I'm assuming something went

[PLUG] trying to satisfy everyone's critiques on missing man pages for executables

2024-03-23 Thread American Citizen
I am attempting to provide enough information on the missing man pages, so I spent about 3 hours this evening on this. I have a linux OpenSuse Leap 15.5 linux system. Running the zipper list shows 7,443 installed programs for the software respositories Here's the results of my investigations

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread American Citizen
To all readers: Maybe on determining missing man pages we should first define exactly what executables we mean? All ELF files? (not scripts?) etc? My initial determination was using strictly ELF files to look for the man pages from them Randall On 3/23/24 10:03, MC_Sequoia wrote: "I was

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread American Citizen
MC Sequoia I appreciate all the feedback I can get. Thank you for alerting me to this. Randall On 3/23/24 10:03, MC_Sequoia wrote: "I was surprised to find < 15% of the command executables were documented. Naturally I was hoping for something like 50% to 75%." I don't run Suze, but color me

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread American Citizen
Robert: As I am reading the replies back to the forum, now I come on your 2nd email Thank you for this post. I am going try to implement your script at the root level and see what comes up Randall On 3/23/24 09:21, Robert Citek wrote: I ask because I get very different results. <<<

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread American Citizen
Robert wow, asking me to start from scratch again 1. file . -executable -print (at root level with root permissions) 2. type {file names found} and save only the ELF executables 3. man executable name This in short is what I did Please be aware that 10,000's of executables will come up.

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread American Citizen
Paul: Good question from you. for executables I used $ find . -executable -print at the root level "/" on my hard drive hosting the linux OS (using root permissions) Then I had to filter these by doing a file {found name} to actually narrow to the executable Example:

Re: [PLUG] SWAP size based on host's installed memory

2024-03-23 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, Johnathan Mantey wrote: Did I miss the definition of SAR? System Activity Report. On my Slackware desktop it's in /user/bin/sar. man page available, too. HTH, Rich

[PLUG] Death Notice / Unsubscribe

2024-03-23 Thread John Jason Jordan
First: My brother, John Jeddeloh, was found deceased in his home January 14. He was known on this list as "John Jason Jordan." From his computer files it looks like he has been active here for many years. I have even found boxes with meeting posters dating back to 2013. Second: I need to

Re: [PLUG] Making a bootable thumb drive [FIXED]

2024-03-23 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, Rich Shepard wrote: Why sdg has two partitions I don't know. My question is to which device name I point dd's of=? /dev/sdg or /dev/sdg1. Or should I use cfdisk to re-partition the drive? Never mind. I ran `dd if=usbboot.img of=/dev/sdg and I now again have a bootable

[PLUG] Making a bootable thumb drive

2024-03-23 Thread Rich Shepard
For some reason the bootable thumb drive I made (for Slackware64-15.0) now asks to load PXE to install over the network rather than from the flash drive itself. I have the usbboot.img file and the flash drive is seen by the kernel: Mar 23 11:04:35 salmo kernel: [246888.820945] sdg: sdg1 sdg2

Re: [PLUG] SWAP size based on host's installed memory

2024-03-23 Thread Rich Shepard
On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, Michael Ewan wrote: Some swap is necessary but not the RAM+2GB or other calculations, those kinds of recommendations are based on very old memory management routines. You can start with a swap file for safety and then measure actual memory use under actual work loads over

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread Ben Koenig
On Saturday, March 23rd, 2024 at 9:57 AM, Galen Seitz wrote: > On 3/23/24 00:55, Ben Koenig wrote: > > > Ideally, the whole point of an LLM is to create a problem that can > > interpret human language so that we can interact with software in a > > "human" way. It shouldn't matter if the data

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread MC_Sequoia
"I was surprised to find < 15% of the command executables were documented. Naturally I was hoping for something like 50% to 75%." I don't run Suze, but color me very suspicious. I did a quick Google search and found this thread about missing man pages. You might want to read through it. In

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread Galen Seitz
On 3/23/24 00:55, Ben Koenig wrote: Ideally, the whole point of an LLM is to create a problem that can interpret human language so that we can interact with software in a "human" way. It shouldn't matter if the data is garbage, as long as the result is a program that understands english. Once

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread Robert Citek
I ask because I get very different results. <<< ${PATH} tr : '\n' | while read folder ; do echo == ${folder} find ${folder}/ -type f -executable | rev | cut -d / -f1 | rev | xargs -t -n1 man -w 2>&1 | cat -n done | tee /tmp/file.list.man.txt $ wc -l /tmp/file.list.man.txt 2863

[PLUG] Off Topic:TV Station (in Eugene, OR!) Launches Multiple 4K Broadcasts OTA on ATSC 1.0

2024-03-23 Thread elcaset
TV Station (in Eugene, OR!) Launches Multiple 4K Broadcasts OTA on ATSC 1.0 "https://iv.datura.network/watch?v=e_94q9TCCDY;

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread Robert Citek
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 6:04 PM American Citizen wrote: > A few years ago, I took my Linux OS which is openSuse Leap v15.3 or so > and ran a check on the documentation such as the man1 through man9 pages > (run the %man man command to pull all this up) versus the actual > executables on the

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 22 Mar 2024, American Citizen wrote: A few years ago, I took my Linux OS which is openSuse Leap v15.3 or so and ran a check on the documentation such as the man1 through man9 pages (run the %man man command to pull all this up) versus the actual executables on the system. I was

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread Rich Shepard
On Fri, 22 Mar 2024, Russell Senior wrote: To me, the only open question is whether humans get stupider faster than the machines. Isn't that why the search for extraterrestrial intelligence has been going on for so many decades? Rich

Re: [PLUG] something I am considering doing...

2024-03-23 Thread Ben Koenig
Ideally, the whole point of an LLM is to create a problem that can interpret human language so that we can interact with software in a "human" way. It shouldn't matter if the data is garbage, as long as the result is a program that understands english. Once you have that, you can point it to