i can see this happening, and i would like to see more options besides
exchange. i think its healthy for dev teams to have something to
compete against.
but remember exchange is also backed by a huge suite of other things
that all work together and it all integrates. thats the flip side that
XSS-Shell and XSS-Tunneling is not OS [Windows/Unix-Linux/BSD/OS X] dependent
(see the full explanation below) [Thanks for asking]!
What is important here, rather than assuming that Linux is secure [and Windows
is virus prone], is that you, as users, (and budding professional) as you head
Any other PHX peeps here at SCaLE?
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I disagree... Mostly.
- Tough to backup
Like any database it needs to be shut down for standard file backups to work
properly. This can be done via a simple script and is not a real issue.
However the use of back up programs like BackupExec make it a breeze to back
up and restore. However I
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 09:45 -0700, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
I disagree... Mostly.
- Tough to backup
Like any database it needs to be shut down for standard file backups to work
properly. This can be done via a simple script and is not a real issue.
However the use of back up programs like
I know the 2 bugaboos for excahnge in requirements is Disk IO for
large companies, (not as much an issue in a small sub 1000 users
company) and ram. exchange up to 2003 is a 4gb of ram beastie.
im not sure about the mailbox recovery, but i know it can run on ESXi
vm as long as you have 2 cores
Craig, I think you are missing the point. So, not to call you out on the
carpet here but have you ever managed a large enterprise? If so could you
please explain your ideal concept of how you manage to keep productivity
high and cost low without use of any non-free or non-open products? Take
I ran it integrated on the same machine as the AD server (which was duel
core mid range Power Edge 1600 IIRC). Supposedly I should have run it on
its own box because it slows down the AD controller but it met my needs and
worked great. The only complaint I had was that exchange would act slow for
Agreed, for larger companies ( I would even say over 500 users) the disk IO
can brutal. Especially since it writes every message or change to the store
before scanning for discard. Which is another reason why $500/year for off
site spam scanning is a must. Also remember it is handling much more
Would it be fair to say that MS keeps just enough of exchange or its
communication methods secret so that it is hard for others (OSS
projects) to create the same seamless integration available using the MS
native programs without buying a license for the secret technology .
It seems that the
I can concur with a great deal of what your saying. However I am intrigued
by your statement of There are many other choices I am hoping to find
ones that work well for the very small business and the very large that
provide the same functionality of Exchange, but have not. Do you have a
I firmly second that motion. Particularly ones economical for the very
small and very large enterprises
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That understates it EXACTLY !!! lol
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[mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Stephen
P Rufle
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:06 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: OT:Exchange
Fedora has an AD integration project as well. I too am very interested. As
for their communications being secret... I can by that, but I don't think
people would be apposed to using a different client if that is what offers
the best integration with their server. However I am the first to tell
Hi All,
Well I got it figured out. Bad version of Samba was the culprit. I
upgraded samba and the issue went away. I still like lprng though
Thanks,
Sean
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Bob Elzer bob.el...@gmail.com wrote:
I'd say it is a print configuration on linux side problem.
Have
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 15:47 -0700, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
$1500 is the cost of the box, the server os, the exchange server, the AD,
and set up. The client licenses (aka outlook) run about $40 per user.
Since set up can be done off the AD controller (including client program
installation) there
I think one main thing is Either these things matter to your client or
they don't.. If there were a base product or a series of products that
just needed assembling to be as good or better then Exchange. I would
think a group of people could stitch it all together in a way that would
be sellable.
I will agree with this.
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 19:02 -0700, Stephen P Rufle wrote:
I think one main thing is Either these things matter to your client or
they don't.. If there were a base product or a series of products that
just needed assembling to be as good or better then Exchange. I would
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 19:02 -0700, Stephen P Rufle wrote:
I think one main thing is Either these things matter to your client or
they don't.. If there were a base product or a series of products that
just needed assembling to be as good or better then Exchange. I would
think a group of people
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