Re: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?)

2009-02-20 Thread Stephen
i can see this happening, and i would like to see more options besides exchange. i think its healthy for dev teams to have something to compete against. but remember exchange is also backed by a huge suite of other things that all work together and it all integrates. thats the flip side that

RE: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?)

2009-02-20 Thread Bryan O'Neal
- From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Craig White Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:14 PM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?) On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 19:37 -0700, Alan

RE: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?)

2009-02-20 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 09:45 -0700, Bryan O'Neal wrote: I disagree... Mostly. - Tough to backup Like any database it needs to be shut down for standard file backups to work properly. This can be done via a simple script and is not a real issue. However the use of back up programs like

Re: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?)

2009-02-20 Thread Stephen
I know the 2 bugaboos for excahnge in requirements is Disk IO for large companies, (not as much an issue in a small sub 1000 users company) and ram. exchange up to 2003 is a 4gb of ram beastie. im not sure about the mailbox recovery, but i know it can run on ESXi vm as long as you have 2 cores

RE: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?)

2009-02-20 Thread Bryan O'Neal
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:14 AM To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?) Well I haven't used the latest exchange and it's been a while, so maybe you can tell me if they worked around the issues I had with it. It requires it's own server

RE: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?)

2009-02-20 Thread Bryan O'Neal
To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?) I know the 2 bugaboos for excahnge in requirements is Disk IO for large companies, (not as much an issue in a small sub 1000 users company) and ram. exchange up to 2003 is a 4gb of ram beastie. im not sure about

RE: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?)

2009-02-20 Thread Bryan O'Neal
, 2009 12:00 PM To: 'Main PLUG discussion list' Subject: RE: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?) Exchange works and for now it probably has the best calendar app. But MS designed it to only work with it's own relatives, It was not designed to play nice with the rest of the kids on the block

OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?)

2009-02-19 Thread Alan Dayley
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I agree on exchange really If you need just email exchange is the wrong thing but if you are looking at all the other stuff I haven't seen anything close without some serious work and cobbling As a forced user of Exchange

Re: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?)

2009-02-19 Thread Stephen
What exchange can do is really good, but gettong it to work well is almost Byzantine in its poorly doctumented way I have run them and will do so again but the bugaboos that don't come up till its an issue are the kicker and not worth it if your doing just email and the like but it is petlt the

Re: OT:Exchange good? (Was:Re: new hotness?)

2009-02-19 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 19:37 -0700, Alan Dayley wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Stephen cryptwo...@gmail.com wrote: I agree on exchange really If you need just email exchange is the wrong thing but if you are looking at all the other stuff I haven't seen anything close without some