Short answer--no. Unless you want to throw out pretty much all of the history
of the Middle East for past century plus, including its role in great Power
machinations, the waning of the Ottoman Empire, compounded by the discovery of
oil reserves, the betrayal of Arab national aspirations by the
tigerbengalis wrote:
Tim-- Where is your evidence that anti-semitism of any time is due to
resource competition?
Well, as discussed already on this thread, if you read the German
antisemites of the 1870's and onward, the predominant themes are
complaints about Jewish domination of German
Aren't antisemitic texts the best place to turn to understand antisemitic
thinking? Who would better understand antisemitic motivations than antisemites
like Martin Luther or Nazi ideologues?
I am still unclear: to what precisely, based on a close reading on his actual
words, do you attribute
tigerbengalis wrote:
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, as discussed already on this thread, if you read the German
antisemites of the 1870's and onward, the predominant themes are
complaints about Jewish domination of German finance, industry and
journalism. I don't know if you
Tim: It is true that the antisemitism faced by Jews in the Ghettos was
of a different nature, and was not based on resource competition. The
issue of the highly collective and exclusive nature of Jewish identity
was a constant though.
I will be happy to stand corrected if you have evidence to
LeaNder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There were attempts along these lines: e.g. the Spanish Marrano. The problem
is, after the conversion there was still suspicion and partly it was justified,
some Jews simply disappeared behind a Christian mask, practicing their religion
privately.
In New
Leander
I will revise the point then; the argument by Tim (echoing Macdonald) that the
supposed highly collective and exclusive nature of Jews was an exculpatory
factor in the responsibility for their genocide on the part of Nazi Germany
reminds me of similar claims with respect to the
Tim,
I think you are very, very wrong in the passage cited below. Although -
even if I repeat myself here - I am no historian. I think the conflict
was exactly about that: Resources. Long before German Jews were sent
to the camps, they lost their jobs everywhere. They were pushed out of
all
tim_howells_1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is true that the antisemitism faced by Jews in the Ghettos was of a
different nature, and was not based on resource competition. The issue of the
highly collective and exclusive nature of Jewish identity was a
Run this by us once again: why do you think Europeans were angry at the Jews
last century, angry enough to try to drive them out of Europe?
Would content analyzing the key anti-Semitic works of the 20th century perhaps
answer this question in a satisfactory way?
tigerbengalis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tigerbengalis wrote:
timothy.howells wrote:
It is true that the antisemitism faced by Jews in the Ghettos was of a
different nature, and was not based on resource competition. The issue
of the highly collective and exclusive nature of Jewish identity was a
constant though.
Reply:
Tim,
tigerbengalis wrote:
That view (conflict over resources) seems to have only marginal validity
only in quite ancient times during the period of an extant Israelite
nation and in very recent times with the establishment of the same on
land long occupied by indigenous Palestinian Arabs. The vast
Tim--
That view (conflict over resources) seems to have only marginal validity only
in quite ancient times during the period of an extant Israelite nation and in
very recent times with the establishment of the same on land long occupied by
indigenous Palestinian Arabs. The vast bulk of
If you review anti-Semitic writings during the Russian and German phases,
several themes emerge, one of the most prominent being that Jews in their
respective Diaspora nations comprised an ethnic nation (a people) apart, which
refused to fully assimilate to the dominant ethnic culture. Whether
--- In political-research@yahoogroups.com, tigerbengalis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Of course there are indeed a relative
HANDFUL of Jewish neocons (and non-neocons) who play a role in
American imperial policy, and who are likely sympathetic to Israel by
virtue of their own ethnicities. So friggin
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