Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld
[Wietse] I just stubled across this thread: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/exim/users/90005 We could take a bold step and do it in two main stream MTAs, damn the torpedoes. Let's not call it a bold step, let's call it a bottom-up approach ;-). I can't speak for Oracle, but I

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Claus Assmann postfix-users@postfix.org: Per RCPT filtering is a feature that is often asked by ISPs who offer anti-spam/virus for their customers: some pay for additional filtering. In Germany you either reject globally in session, and stick with the law, or you reject post-queue per

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Wietse Venema
Patrick Ben Koetter: * Claus Assmann postfix-users@postfix.org: Per RCPT filtering is a feature that is often asked by ISPs who offer anti-spam/virus for their customers: some pay for additional filtering. In Germany you either reject globally in session, and stick with the law, or you

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Mark Martinec
Wietse wrote: To make per-recipient end-of-data replies useful with Postfix, PRDR would need to be supported by at least one third-party content inspection mechanism (such as Amavisd-new or Milter), because I see no obvious user interface for PRDR with Postfix header/body_checks. -

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 09:11:55AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: To make per-recipient end-of-data replies useful with Postfix, PRDR would need to be supported by at least one third-party content inspection mechanism (such as Amavisd-new or Milter), because I see no obvious user interface for

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 03:23:11PM +0100, Mark Martinec wrote: Wietse wrote: To make per-recipient end-of-data replies useful with Postfix, PRDR would need to be supported by at least one third-party content inspection mechanism (such as Amavisd-new or Milter), because I see no obvious

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-23 Thread Wietse Venema
Viktor Dukhovni: On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 09:11:55AM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: To make per-recipient end-of-data replies useful with Postfix, PRDR would need to be supported by at least one third-party content inspection mechanism (such as Amavisd-new or Milter), because I see no

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-22 Thread Claus Assmann
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011, Wietse Venema wrote: It's a shame http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hall-prdr-00.txt or something like it never went anywhere. It is surprising, considering that there is experience with per-recipient data replies in LMTP, and that it is straightforward to implement

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-22 Thread Wietse Venema
Claus Assmann: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011, Wietse Venema wrote: It's a shame http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hall-prdr-00.txt or something like it never went anywhere. It is surprising, considering that there is experience with per-recipient data replies in LMTP, and that it is

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-22 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:30:49PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: I just stubled across this thread: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/exim/users/90005 We could take a bold step and do it in two main stream MTAs, damn the torpedoes. Is it worth the effort? Will enough SMTP clients

Re: Per-Recipient Data Responses (was: ... per-recipient treatment of messages in a milter environment)

2011-11-22 Thread Claus Assmann
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011, Viktor Dukhovni wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 08:30:49PM -0500, Wietse Venema wrote: I just stubled across this thread: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/exim/users/90005 We could take a bold step and do it in two main stream MTAs, damn the torpedoes.