Steve Harris wrote:
On 10 Jul 2009, at 11:00, Toby Inkster wrote:
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 10:40 +0100, Steve Harris wrote:
Personally I think that RDF/XML doesn't help, it's too hard to write
by hand.
MicroTurtle, the sloppy RDF format:
http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/microturtle/spec
On 10 Jul 2009, at 15:36, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
Steve Harris wrote:
On 10 Jul 2009, at 14:31, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
Steve et. al,
If we are going to take the how the Web was born theme re.
figuring out the path forward, then what's wrong with RDFa? If
people sort of know how to write
Steve Harris wrote:
On 10 Jul 2009, at 15:36, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
Steve Harris wrote:
On 10 Jul 2009, at 14:31, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
Steve et. al,
If we are going to take the how the Web was born theme re.
figuring out the path forward, then what's wrong with RDFa? If
people sort of
There's a lot to be said for keeping things very simple.
Over in the biodiversity informatics community we've adopted Life
Science Identifiers (LSID) as our identifier of choice, which require
special software to both serve and resolve, plus the added
complication of convincing your
OK, lets take a step back from the discussion of redirection, and remind
ourselves what we are trying to achieve ('cos we're all agreed on that,
aren't we ;-) ). Just in case that is an issue in itself, here's my
list, in order of priority:
1. unique and persistent URIs are routinely used
(3 hours) interface about Linked Data URIs
I am finding the current discussion really difficult.
Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
As an example:
In the 1980s there were a load of hypertext systems that required the
users
to do a bunch of stuff to buy into them
On 10 Jul 2009, at 01:22, Hugh Glaser wrote:
If I can't simply publish some RDF about something like my dog, by
publishing a file of triples that say what I want at my standard web
site,
we have broken the system.
I couldn't agree more.
rant subject=off-topic syntax rant of the decade
In message 7544285b-e1b1-48a4-96e0-bded62175...@garlik.com, Steve
Harris steve.har...@garlik.com writes
On 10 Jul 2009, at 01:22, Hugh Glaser wrote:
If I can't simply publish some RDF about something like my dog, by
publishing a file of triples that say what I want at my standard web
site,
we
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 10:40 +0100, Steve Harris wrote:
Personally I think that RDF/XML doesn't help, it's too hard to write
by hand.
MicroTurtle, the sloppy RDF format:
http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/microturtle/spec
I really need to document my implementation's error recovery too. It
Steve is right.
If I am not wrong, when TBL gave his talk at CERN for the 20th aniversary of
the web, he said that he was amazed that people were hacking HTML by hand.
He never expected it.
Now... we are the geeks doing RDF, conneg, linked data by hand... In a
couple of years we will create
On 10/7/09 12:23, Juan Sequeda wrote:
Steve is right.
If I am not wrong, when TBL gave his talk at CERN for the 20th
aniversary of the web, he said that he was amazed that people were
hacking HTML by hand. He never expected it.
Now... we are the geeks doing RDF, conneg, linked data by hand...
In message 1247219612.18243.10.ca...@ophelia2.g5n.co.uk, Toby Inkster
t...@g5n.co.uk writes
If I use the URL of my machine readable data to identity myself (myself
being the subject of discourse) then it immediately creates ambiguities.
What would it mean for the file to have a dc:created
We must consider all use cases.
(1) the KISS case you present is the easy one: URIs natively map to their URLs.
(2) the redirection case, with admin rights::
Oops, i had to rename my files on the server and now my URIs no longer
match their URLs.
Fortunately, I have access to a redirection feature
On 10.07.2009 10:53:32, Toby Inkster wrote:
What would it mean for the file to have a dc:created property? Would the
value of that property be my date of birth, or would it be the date I
first uploaded my data?
The classic example is that if I use the same URL to represent myself
and my web
Steve Harris wrote:
On 10 Jul 2009, at 11:00, Toby Inkster wrote:
On Fri, 2009-07-10 at 10:40 +0100, Steve Harris wrote:
Personally I think that RDF/XML doesn't help, it's too hard to write
by hand.
MicroTurtle, the sloppy RDF format:
http://buzzword.org.uk/2009/microturtle/spec
On 10 Jul 2009, at 14:31, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
Steve et. al,
If we are going to take the how the Web was born theme re.
figuring out the path forward, then what's wrong with RDFa? If
people sort of know how to write HTML, why not show them how to add
rich metadata via RDFa? That said,
Steve Harris wrote:
On 10 Jul 2009, at 14:31, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
Steve et. al,
If we are going to take the how the Web was born theme re. figuring
out the path forward, then what's wrong with RDFa? If people sort of
know how to write HTML, why not show them how to add rich metadata
via
On 10.07.2009 10:53:32, Toby Inkster wrote:
What would it mean for the file to have a dc:created property? Would the
value of that property be my date of birth, or would it be the date I
first uploaded my data?
The classic example is that if I use the same URL to represent myself
and my
hours) interface about Linked
Data
URIs
On 10/7/09 12:23, Juan Sequeda wrote:
Steve is right.
If I am not wrong, when TBL gave his talk at CERN for the 20th
aniversary of the web, he said that he was amazed that people were
hacking HTML by hand. He never expected it.
Now... we
I answer to Toby just becouse its handy to do so but i just want to
make a general statement.
Toby is stating the classical view, clean knowledge representation, 0%
dealing with ambiguity.
Hugh is hinting at is that the complexity of the clean solution is
overwhelming since it is
Gee, this makes waay too much sense. Why would you *ever* want to make
an assertion about the semantics of a URI using RDF??? Isn't that what
HTTP is for?
Eric Hellman
President, Gluejar, Inc.
41 Watchung Plaza, #132
Montclair, NJ 07042
USA
e...@hellman.net
I am finding the current discussion really difficult.
Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
As an example:
In the 1980s there were a load of hypertext systems that required the users
to do a bunch of stuff to buy into them. They had great theoretical bases,
and their
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