Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/13/11 12:04 AM, Giovanni Tummarello wrote: If you are seeking stats re. what I mean re. intertia, just keep track of what's happening on the schema.org front re. adoption curve. here are 100+ datasets

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Hugh Glaser
If a dataset has not been available in any Linked Data way for 3+ months it should not appear on the cloud we show people, coloured or not. It is no more. It has ceased to be. It has expired and gone to meet its maker. If it had not been nailed to the cloud it would have fallen off. It is an

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Yrjana Rankka
On 7/12/11 21:33 , Giovanni Tummarello wrote: Hi out of curiousity Will you be taking off the diagram those that are NOT online regularly? How about marking them as having one or more of the following: 1. A dump is available upon request to email 2. A dump is online at URL 3. A SPARQL endpoint

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Leigh Dodds
Hi, On 12 July 2011 18:45, Pablo Mendes pablomen...@gmail.com wrote: Dear fellow Linked Open Data publishers and consumers, We are in the process of regenerating the next LOD cloud diagram and associated statistics [1]. ... This email prompted a discussion about how to the data collection or

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Pierre-Yves Vandenbussche
Hi LODers, The Web of Data is by definition an uncontrolled environment, and by nature constantly evolving. In this respect the cloud diagram is in my opinion a snapshot of the LOD at a particular moment. Last version is almost unreadable in a A4 paper and we passed the era of the more dataset we

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Bernard Vatant
Re. availability, just a reminder of SPARQL Endpoints Status service http://labs.mondeca.com/sparqlEndpointsStatus/index.html As of today 80% (192/240) endpoints registered at CKAN are up and running. Monitor grey dots (still alive?) for candidate passed out datasets ... Bernard 2011/7/13 Leigh

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Leigh Dodds
Hi, On 13 July 2011 13:05, Bernard Vatant bernard.vat...@mondeca.com wrote: Re. availability, just a reminder of SPARQL Endpoints Status service http://labs.mondeca.com/sparqlEndpointsStatus/index.html As of today 80% (192/240) endpoints registered at CKAN are up and running. Monitor grey

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Yves Raimond
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Bernard Vatant bernard.vat...@mondeca.com wrote: Re. availability, just a reminder of SPARQL Endpoints Status service http://labs.mondeca.com/sparqlEndpointsStatus/index.html As of today 80% (192/240) endpoints registered at CKAN are up and running. Monitor

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/13/11 11:36 AM, Hugh Glaser wrote: If a dataset has not been available in any Linked Data way for 3+ months it should not appear on the cloud we show people, coloured or not. It is no more. It has ceased to be. It has expired and gone to meet its maker. If it had not been nailed to the

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Tom Heath
Hi all, On 13 July 2011 14:11, Leigh Dodds leigh.do...@talis.com wrote: Hi, On 13 July 2011 13:05, Bernard Vatant bernard.vat...@mondeca.com wrote: Re. availability, just a reminder of SPARQL Endpoints Status service http://labs.mondeca.com/sparqlEndpointsStatus/index.html As of today 80%

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/13/11 12:00 PM, Leigh Dodds wrote: Hi, On 12 July 2011 18:45, Pablo Mendespablomen...@gmail.com wrote: Dear fellow Linked Open Data publishers and consumers, We are in the process of regenerating the next LOD cloud diagram and associated statistics [1]. ... This email prompted a

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/13/11 1:11 PM, Leigh Dodds wrote: Hi, On 13 July 2011 13:05, Bernard Vatantbernard.vat...@mondeca.com wrote: Re. availability, just a reminder of SPARQL Endpoints Status service http://labs.mondeca.com/sparqlEndpointsStatus/index.html As of today 80% (192/240) endpoints registered at

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Leigh Dodds
Hi, On 13 July 2011 14:30, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Can you ping me or reply to this list with a list of missing SPARQL endpoints. Alternatively, you bookmark them on del.icio.us using tag: sparql_endpoint. Here is my collection:

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-13 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/13/11 2:34 PM, Leigh Dodds wrote: Hi, On 13 July 2011 14:30, Kingsley Idehenkide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Can you ping me or reply to this list with a list of missing SPARQL endpoints. Alternatively, you bookmark them on del.icio.us using tag: sparql_endpoint. Here is my collection:

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-12 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
Hi out of curiousity Will you be taking off the diagram those that are NOT online regularly? Gio On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Pablo Mendes pablomen...@gmail.com wrote: Dear fellow Linked Open Data publishers and consumers, We are in the process of regenerating the next LOD cloud diagram and

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-12 Thread Pablo Mendes
Giovanni, Thanks for helping to build a preemptive QA for dataset providers. First, there is no 'taking off'. The 2007...2010 versions will remain online forever with the help of web archive. Second, I assume you refer to the relatively short time span between my message to the list and the

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-12 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
i meant a much simpler and significant thing. Go in CKAN click on the LOD tag, then start clicking around datasets. Many dont work, are offline etc. They have been for weeks or months. Are you checking these and removing them from the new lod diagram or will the lod diagram just grow regardless

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-12 Thread Thomas Steiner
Many dont work, are offline etc. They have been for weeks or months. Are you checking these and removing them from the new lod diagram or will the lod diagram just grow regardless reality? Fair point, Giovanni. Pablo, I /believe/ Giovanni is referring to a recent related experiment [1] by

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-12 Thread bizer
Hi Giovanni, Will you be taking off the diagram those that are NOT online regularly? could you please be a bit more precise and clearly say which datasets you are talking about. Which datasets do not provide dereferencable URIs anymore? (Linked Data and the LOD diagram is not about SPARQL

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-12 Thread Marco Neumann
I would think that Giovanni refers to the public tracker CKAN SPARQL Endpoint: http://labs.mondeca.com/sparqlEndpointsStatus/ I also would also recommend to remove the endpoints that indeed do show significant downtime such as 100% downtime 100% of the time for a consecutive period of more than

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-12 Thread Pablo Mendes
Thanks, Thomas. Giovanni, it was a coreference resolution problem from my side. You meant 'they'=datasets and I read 'they'=people. It was anyhow a possible question to come by and it's (hopefully) clearer now. Sorry for the confusion. Now to the intended question. I will discuss the issue of

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-12 Thread Thomas Steiner
Hi Chris, could you please be a bit more precise and clearly say which datasets you are talking about. One example is Semantic Crunchbase (http://cb.semsol.org/). Which datasets do not provide dereferencable URIs anymore? None of those seem to work any longer (try any of

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/12/11 11:21 PM, Pablo Mendes wrote: Thanks, Thomas. Giovanni, it was a coreference resolution problem from my side. You meant 'they'=datasets and I read 'they'=people. It was anyhow a possible question to come by and it's (hopefully) clearer now. Sorry for the confusion. Now to the

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-12 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
Chris, i am not interested in specific content of the diagram, but rather i am interested in understanding what its value of it which depends on the method you're going to follow in the update. You're answeing this saying basically there wont be a check for old dead datasets. I admit never

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-12 Thread Kingsley Idehen
On 7/12/11 11:33 PM, Thomas Steiner wrote: (Linked Data and the LOD diagram is not about SPARQL endpoints) Fair enough. It is related though, according to TimBL's Linked Data principle #3 (http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/LinkedData.html). Really got to be careful there. SPARQL and RDF are

Re: Get your dataset on the next LOD cloud diagram

2011-07-12 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
If you are seeking stats re. what I mean re. intertia, just keep track of what's happening on the schema.org front re. adoption curve. here are 100+ datasets http://sindice.com/search?q=schemanq=fq=class%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fschema.org%2F*sortbydate=1facet.field=domaininterface=guru started