Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-02-05 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Scott Prive wrote: Tk doesn't need fixing... it needs to be taken behind the barn and shot in the head. feels good to know that people appreciate the things I do... /F ___ PyKDE mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-02-03 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Scott Prive wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans-Peter Jansen) wrote: Scott Prive wrote: [snip] Well, may have a look on wxPython. At least, the library is free, allows cross platform development on windows and unix, and has some nice features. Docs and some (non) free

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-02-02 Thread Bernd Gehrmann
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Scott Prive wrote: Does the QPL only "force" this issue on Linux? is my question Creating software for "internal use" at a company is clearly commercial use and would be a violation. This leaves a huge gray area, where one could at home develop "useful" software to the

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-02-02 Thread Scott Prive
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans-Peter Jansen) wrote: Scott Prive wrote: [snip] Well, may have a look on wxPython. At least, the library is free, allows cross platform development on windows and unix, and has some nice features. Docs and some (non) free gui builder are available. Thanks for the

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-02-01 Thread Phil Thompson
"John J. Lee" wrote: Isn't it still illegal for a somebody to distribute non-free software that requires PyQt under the free Qt license? Sorry, I don't understand this. PyQt doesn't require any particular Qt license. PyQt is not under the GPL. Perhaps this may be a debatable legal point

[PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-02-01 Thread Bernd Gehrmann
Dan Parisien wrote: I doubt they would go out of business. They don't make money from people who produce free software anyways. Even if a GPL version of Qt was available for windows, Trolltech would still make money on people building proprietary software with their kit (I'm sure they

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-02-01 Thread Philippe Fremy
Hi all, I had the chance to meet Eirik Eng (the president of Troll Tech) at the french Linux Expo. I didn't know that there where a whole thread on this list but I have asked him a few questions about PyQt and ohter things. He is a very nice guy and was in charge of the licensing

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-02-01 Thread Scott Prive
Philippe Fremy wrote: Hi all, I had the chance to meet Eirik Eng (the president of Troll Tech) at the french Linux Expo. I didn't know that there where a whole thread on this list but I have asked him a few questions about PyQt and ohter things. He is a very nice guy and was in

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-02-01 Thread Matt Gerassimoff
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Scott Prive wrote: Forking the UNIX Qt into a Windows DLL branch remains a improbability. The Free Software guys *don't care* -- they've settled on GTK. The Open Source people would feel this would be an attack on Troll Tech. So the problem from my point is, there is

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-02-01 Thread John J. Lee
On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Phil Thompson wrote: "John J. Lee" wrote: Isn't it still illegal for a somebody to distribute non-free software that requires PyQt under the free Qt license? Sorry, I don't understand this. PyQt doesn't require any particular Qt license. PyQt is not under the GPL.

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-31 Thread Phil Thompson
Matt Gerassimoff wrote: On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Phil Thompson wrote: Scott Prive wrote: Phil Thompson wrote: And does this mean the PyQt binary for windows won't be free in the future? Oh well, Tk it is then. I believe so, but I'd leave commenting on that to

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-31 Thread Phil Thompson
ender wrote: phil, thank you for releasing pyqt, pykde, and sip. this email is just rude, and i just wanted to say that your work is appreciated. If people want to update the libaries or develop them they are free to do so. I think Matt's email was fair comment - although (in my

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-31 Thread Phil Thompson
Scott Prive wrote: Phil Thompson wrote: Scott Prive wrote: Phil Thompson wrote: [snip..] Be fair - if somebody said (not that they have) "people won't license our Qt development tools if you provide one for free" then I would sympathise with them completely. It is in

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-31 Thread Matt Gerassimoff
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Phil Thompson wrote: You may say there is no single reason for not continuing the release of PyQt. My guess: you want to sell copies of Black Addr. I wouldn't buy it if PyQt was available. I'm not into IDE's that much. You can make excuses and other reasons.

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-31 Thread Dan Parisien
There is another possibility which may test the GPL and TrollTech: Someone could build a interface to Qt for Windows without a commercial license and release it GPL (which it would have to). Then applications that are free, stay free. I'm not sure how that would affect TrollTech but my

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-31 Thread Phil Thompson
Matt Gerassimoff wrote: Phil, it is your choice. I'm just voicing my disappointment. The binary release of PyQt was only 4 months old (since September). I'm sure you knew BlackAddr was going to be release by then. The best outcome would be the company that gave you the binary release

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-31 Thread Dan Parisien
True but that won't change if they aren't exposed to free software. I was telling my stepfather about Linux (he uses Windows), and the comment I got was "how do you MAKE people write software for free? Someone has to pay for it". It's a popular misconception in the Windows space. Your

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-31 Thread Matt Gerassimoff
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Phil Thompson wrote: Matt Gerassimoff wrote: Phil, it is your choice. I'm just voicing my disappointment. The binary release of PyQt was only 4 months old (since September). I'm sure you knew BlackAddr was going to be release by then. The best outcome would be

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-31 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Matt Gerassimoff wrote: Then why did TrollTech give you the licence??? If you didn't buy it, but instead they gave you a copy of Qt, then it would seem to me they supported release. If you did buy it then you could release a binary Well, I'm perhaps partly to blame.

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-30 Thread Scott Prive
Phil Thompson wrote: Scott Prive wrote: Phil Thompson wrote: [snip..] Be fair - if somebody said (not that they have) "people won't license our Qt development tools if you provide one for free" then I would sympathise with them completely. It is in nobody's interest to put Trolltech

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-30 Thread Scott Prive
Matt Gerassimoff wrote: On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Phil Thompson wrote: Scott Prive wrote: Phil Thompson wrote: And does this mean the PyQt binary for windows won't be free in the future? Oh well, Tk it is then. I believe so, but I'd leave commenting on that to Phil

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-26 Thread Phil Thompson
Coy Krill wrote: On Thursday 25 January 2001 03:17 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Coy Krill wrote: You'll find a binary for Python 2.0 on this page... http://www.thekompany.com/projects/pykde/download.php3?dhtml_ok=1 There's a Qt binary there, but not a Qwt one that I can

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-25 Thread John J. Lee
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Coy Krill wrote: You'll find a binary for Python 2.0 on this page... http://www.thekompany.com/projects/pykde/download.php3?dhtml_ok=1 There's a Qt binary there, but not a Qwt one that I can see - did I miss it, or did you assume I'm a bad typist? :) Be aware that

Re: [PyKDE] PyQwt win32 binary?

2001-01-25 Thread Coy Krill
On Thursday 25 January 2001 03:17 pm, you wrote: On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Coy Krill wrote: You'll find a binary for Python 2.0 on this page... http://www.thekompany.com/projects/pykde/download.php3?dhtml_ok=1 There's a Qt binary there, but not a Qwt one that I can see - did I miss it, or