Re: [PyMOL] Super Bug Report

2010-09-23 Thread Thomas Holder
Hi David,

this is bug, indeed. I also hit this some time ago but didn't report it
so far. The actual problem is that the cmd.super('1acb', '426d') fails
completely and only aligns a single atom, resulting in a Null-matrix
that collapses all of 1acb into a single point. The RMSD of 2.8 that you
get in your last call is just an artefact that arises from aligning the
correct protein to the collapsed one. Just run your example with GUI and
you see what happens.

fetch 1acb
fetch 426d
copy 1acb_2, 1acb
super 1acb, 426d
super 1acb, 1acb_2, object=aln
zoom aln

I think the super command should check if the resulting matrix is
orthonormal or at least not a Null-matrix.

Cheers,
  Thomas

On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 18:28 -0400, David Hall wrote:
 In preparing my test for the odd request that I just sent, I came
 across what seems to be a bug in super.  It has to do with this weird
 nucleic acid thing I was talking about.
 
 Here's the script this time:
 from pymol import cmd
 
 cmd.fetch('1acb', async=0)
 cmd.fetch('1acb', '1acb_2', async=0)
 cmd.fetch('426d', async=0)
 
 
 print 1acb_2; print cmd.super('1acb', '1acb_2')[0]
 print 426d; print cmd.super('1acb', '426d')[0]
 print 1acb_2_again; print cmd.super('1acb', '1acb_2')[0]
 
 ~ ~/src/pymol_trunk_20100922/pymol -qrkc script2.py
 PyMOLrun script2.py,main
 1acb_2
 0.0
 426d
 0.0
 1acb_2_again
 2.80655193329
 
 super should give an rms between 1acb and 1acb_2 of 0.0, which it does
 at first.  But once you super your protein to a nucleic acid that has
 a calcium ion, when you run exactly the same command, you all of a
 sudden get 2.8.  Very weird...
 
 Note, this does not happen if you use 100d, which is a nucleic acid
 without a calcium ion, does not happen if you use a pdb file with a
 calcium ion, and does happen with 1d56, which is another nucleic acid
 with a calcium ion I just pulled out.
 
 In pymol 1.2, it also behaved incorrectly:
 ~ pymol -qrkc script2.py
 PyMOLrun script2.py,main
 1acb_2
 0.0
 426d
 nan
 1acb_2_again
 nan
 
 
 -David

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Department of Biochemistry
MPI for Developmental Biology
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D-72076 Tübingen


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[PyMOL] Super Bug Report

2010-09-22 Thread David Hall
In preparing my test for the odd request that I just sent, I came
across what seems to be a bug in super.  It has to do with this weird
nucleic acid thing I was talking about.

Here's the script this time:
from pymol import cmd

cmd.fetch('1acb', async=0)
cmd.fetch('1acb', '1acb_2', async=0)
cmd.fetch('426d', async=0)


print 1acb_2; print cmd.super('1acb', '1acb_2')[0]
print 426d; print cmd.super('1acb', '426d')[0]
print 1acb_2_again; print cmd.super('1acb', '1acb_2')[0]

~ ~/src/pymol_trunk_20100922/pymol -qrkc script2.py
PyMOLrun script2.py,main
1acb_2
0.0
426d
0.0
1acb_2_again
2.80655193329

super should give an rms between 1acb and 1acb_2 of 0.0, which it does
at first.  But once you super your protein to a nucleic acid that has
a calcium ion, when you run exactly the same command, you all of a
sudden get 2.8.  Very weird...

Note, this does not happen if you use 100d, which is a nucleic acid
without a calcium ion, does not happen if you use a pdb file with a
calcium ion, and does happen with 1d56, which is another nucleic acid
with a calcium ion I just pulled out.

In pymol 1.2, it also behaved incorrectly:
~ pymol -qrkc script2.py
PyMOLrun script2.py,main
1acb_2
0.0
426d
nan
1acb_2_again
nan


-David

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