Re: [Pytables-users] Clear chunks from CArray

2013-08-06 Thread Giovanni Luca Ciampaglia
hi Anthony and Antonio,

thanks for the explanations. I was hoping I could do it programmatically, but 
if 
it is an inherent limitation of HDF5 there is little I can do. Compression plus 
a sensible chunk size should help though.

Best,

Giovanni

On 08/06/2013 04:11 AM, pytables-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
 Hi Anthony, hi Giovanni,

 Il giorno 06/ago/2013, alle ore 00:45, Anthony Scopatzscop...@gmail.com  ha 
 scritto:

 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Giovanni Luca 
 Ciampagliaglciamp...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Hi Anthony,

 what do you mean precisely? I tried

 del ca[:,:]

 but CArray does not support __delitem__. Looking in the documentation I could
 only find a method called remove_rows, but it's in Table, not CArray. Maybe 
 I am
 missing something?

 Huh, it should...  This is definitely an oversight on our part.  If you 
 could please open an issue for this -- or better yet -- write a pull request 
 that implements delitem, that'd be great!

 So I think you are right that there is no current way to delete rows from a 
 CArray.  Oops!  (Of course, I may still be missing something as well).

 It looks like EArray also has this problem too, otherwise I would just tell 
 you to use that.
 I'm not sure to understand the problem.

 The truncate method of arrays can be used to remove rows from an extendable 
 array.
 It seems to me that it is not documented but we should add it to the UG.

 CArrays cannot be resized.

 Be Well
 Anthony
   

 Thank,

 Giovanni

 On Mon 05 Aug 2013 03:43:42 PM 
 EDT,pytables-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
 wrote:
 Hello Giovanni, I think you may need to del that slice and then possibly
 repack. Hope this helps. Be Well Anthony On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:09 PM,
 Giovanni Luca Ciampaglia glciamp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 is there a way to clear out a chunk from a CArray? I noticed that setting
 the
 data to zero actually takes disk space, i.e.

 ***
 from tables import open_file, BoolAtom

 h5f = open_file('test.h5', 'w')
 ca = h5f.create_carray(h5f.root, 'carray', BoolAtom(), shape=(1000,1000),
 chunkshape=(1,1000))
 ca[:,:] = False
 h5f.close()
 ***

 The resulting file takes 249K ...

 Best,

 --
 Giovanni Luca Ciampaglia
 HDF5 handles efficiently chunks that have never been written saving some disk 
 space but I doubt that chunks can be de-initializad.
 If my understanding is correct, once one write some value in a chunk (even if 
 it is the default value) the chunk is allocated at HDF5 level and written to 
 disk.
 At they point one can only change item values.
 Also I doubt that a repack can help in this case (not tested).

 The only solution IMO is compression.


 cheers

 --
 Antonio Valentino


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Re: [Pytables-users] Clear chunks from CArray

2013-08-05 Thread Anthony Scopatz
Hello Giovanni,

I think you may need to del that slice and then possibly repack.  Hope this
helps.

Be Well
Anthony


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Giovanni Luca Ciampaglia 
glciamp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 is there a way to clear out a chunk from a CArray? I noticed that setting
 the
 data to zero actually takes disk space, i.e.

 ***
 from tables import open_file, BoolAtom

 h5f = open_file('test.h5', 'w')
 ca = h5f.create_carray(h5f.root, 'carray', BoolAtom(), shape=(1000,1000),
 chunkshape=(1,1000))
 ca[:,:] = False
 h5f.close()
 ***

 The resulting file takes 249K ...

 Best,

 --
 Giovanni Luca Ciampaglia

 Postdoctoral fellow
 Center for Complex Networks and Systems Research
 Indiana University

 ✎ 910 E 10th St ∙ Bloomington ∙ IN 47408
 ☞ http://cnets.indiana.edu/
 ✉ gciam...@indiana.edu


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Re: [Pytables-users] Clear chunks from CArray

2013-08-05 Thread Giovanni Luca Ciampaglia
Hi Anthony,

what do you mean precisely? I tried

del ca[:,:]

but CArray does not support __delitem__. Looking in the documentation I could 
only find a method called remove_rows, but it's in Table, not CArray. Maybe I 
am 
missing something?

Thank,

Giovanni

On Mon 05 Aug 2013 03:43:42 PM EDT, 
pytables-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net 
wrote:

 Hello Giovanni, I think you may need to del that slice and then possibly 
 repack. Hope this helps. Be Well Anthony On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:09 PM, 
 Giovanni Luca Ciampaglia  glciamp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 is there a way to clear out a chunk from a CArray? I noticed that setting
 the
 data to zero actually takes disk space, i.e.

 ***
 from tables import open_file, BoolAtom

 h5f = open_file('test.h5', 'w')
 ca = h5f.create_carray(h5f.root, 'carray', BoolAtom(), shape=(1000,1000),
 chunkshape=(1,1000))
 ca[:,:] = False
 h5f.close()
 ***

 The resulting file takes 249K ...

 Best,

 --
 Giovanni Luca Ciampaglia

 Postdoctoral fellow
 Center for Complex Networks and Systems Research
 Indiana University

 ? 910 E 10th St ? Bloomington ? IN 47408
 ?http://cnets.indiana.edu/
 ?gciam...@indiana.edu





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Postdoctoral fellow
Center for Complex Networks and Systems Research
Indiana University

✎ 910 E 10th St ∙ Bloomington ∙ IN 47408
☞ http://cnets.indiana.edu/
✉ gciam...@indiana.edu


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Re: [Pytables-users] Clear chunks from CArray

2013-08-05 Thread Anthony Scopatz
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Giovanni Luca Ciampaglia 
glciamp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Anthony,

 what do you mean precisely? I tried

 del ca[:,:]

 but CArray does not support __delitem__. Looking in the documentation I
 could
 only find a method called remove_rows, but it's in Table, not CArray.
 Maybe I am
 missing something?


Huh, it should...  This is definitely an oversight on our part.  If you
could please open an issue for this -- or better yet -- write a pull
request that implements delitem, that'd be great!

So I think you are right that there is no current way to delete rows from a
CArray.  Oops!  (Of course, I may still be missing something as well).

It looks like EArray also has this problem too, otherwise I would just tell
you to use that.

Be Well
Anthony



 Thank,

 Giovanni

 On Mon 05 Aug 2013 03:43:42 PM EDT,
 pytables-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net
 wrote:
 
  Hello Giovanni, I think you may need to del that slice and then possibly
  repack. Hope this helps. Be Well Anthony On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:09 PM,
  Giovanni Luca Ciampaglia  glciamp...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  is there a way to clear out a chunk from a CArray? I noticed that
 setting
  the
  data to zero actually takes disk space, i.e.
 
  ***
  from tables import open_file, BoolAtom
 
  h5f = open_file('test.h5', 'w')
  ca = h5f.create_carray(h5f.root, 'carray', BoolAtom(),
 shape=(1000,1000),
  chunkshape=(1,1000))
  ca[:,:] = False
  h5f.close()
  ***
 
  The resulting file takes 249K ...
 
  Best,
 
  --
  Giovanni Luca Ciampaglia
 
  Postdoctoral fellow
  Center for Complex Networks and Systems Research
  Indiana University
 
  ? 910 E 10th St ? Bloomington ? IN 47408
  ?http://cnets.indiana.edu/
  ?gciam...@indiana.edu
 
 



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 Center for Complex Networks and Systems Research
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 ✎ 910 E 10th St ∙ Bloomington ∙ IN 47408
 ☞ http://cnets.indiana.edu/
 ✉ gciam...@indiana.edu



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