Hi.
Could you please explain to me why some iterators have a tp_traverse
implementation and others do not? For example tupleiterator has one,
but none of the dict iterators. Same for set iterators (and possibly
others). It shows in Python when you use the get_referents function.
t = (1,2,3)
On Aug 18, 2008, at 22:06, Bob Ippolito wrote:
The major difference between the packages on macports and
pythonmac.org is that macports is their own distro of nearly
everything, akin to installing a copy of FreeBSD over top of Mac OS X.
pythonmac.org contains packages that are self-contained
Hello,
2008/8/25 Robert Schuppenies [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi.
Could you please explain to me why some iterators have a tp_traverse
implementation and others do not? For example tupleiterator has one,
but none of the dict iterators. Same for set iterators (and possibly
others). It shows in
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I was away for the weekend and am struggling to catch up on my email.
Since I haven't digested this entire thread, I'll refrain for the
moment from giving my opinion, however this comment jumped out to me.
On Aug 22, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Facundo
Not succeeded. I have done these steps:
- I downloaded the tutorial in LaTeX. (http://www.python.org/doc/2.5.2/
download/ )
- Extracted.
- Put the hungarian tut.tex into the tut directory
- downloaded the files from http://svn.python.org/view/doctools/converter
- Run the `convert.py . ../pydoc`
Hi,
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 23:35, Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was just paid a visit by my Google colleague Mark Davis, co-founder
of the Unicode project and the president of the Unicode Consortium. He
would like to see improved Unicode support for Python. (Well duh. :-)
On
On 2008-08-24 21:04, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
TryRaiseExcept: 183ms 122ms +49.6% 184ms 124ms
+48.2%
Whoa, that's a big slowdown. I wonder if it's consistent?
Yes, I can definitely reproduce it.
That's a huge slow-down compared to 2.5.
Are there any obvious reasons
On 2008-08-22 03:25, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 2:26 PM, M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2008-08-21 22:35, Guido van Rossum wrote:
I was just paid a visit by my Google colleague Mark Davis, co-founder
of the Unicode project and the president of the Unicode
M.-A. Lemburg mal at egenix.com writes:
That's a huge slow-down compared to 2.5.
Are there any obvious reasons for this ? Has the exception handling
mechanism changed that much between 2.5 and 2.6 ?
I've looked at it a bit and I think it's because of the
issubclass()/isinstance() slowdown
2008/8/25 M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I would really like to see more Unicode support in Python, e.g.
for collation, compression, indexing based on graphemes and
code points, better support for special casing situations (to
cover e.g. the dotted vs. non-dotted i in the Turkish scripts),
Several people at Google seem to have independently discovered that
despite all of the platform-independent goodness in subprocess.py, you
still need to be platform aware. One of my colleagues summarized it
like this:
Given a straightforward command list like:
cmd = ['svn', 'ls',
Guido van Rossum wrote:
2008/8/25 M.-A. Lemburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I would really like to see more Unicode support in Python, e.g.
for collation, compression, indexing based on graphemes and
code points, better support for special casing situations (to
cover
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 01:30:58PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
Unless I'm misremembering (I no longer have access to Windows), I
believe that if you use ' '.join(cmd) as the first argument, it will
work cross-platform.
What about arguments that contain spaces?
Oleg.
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Oleg
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unless I'm misremembering (I no longer have access to Windows), I believe
that if you use ' '.join(cmd) as the first argument, it will work
cross-platform.
That will mean something different if there are spaces or shell
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On Aug 21, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.1.0/
Unicode 5.1.0 contains over 100,000 characters, and provides
significant additions and improvements... to existing features,
including new files and
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On Aug 25, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Oleg Broytmann wrote:
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 01:30:58PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
Unless I'm misremembering (I no longer have access to Windows), I
believe that if you use ' '.join(cmd) as the first argument, it will
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 25, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Several people at Google seem to have independently discovered that
despite all of the platform-independent goodness in subprocess.py, you
still need to be platform
Guido van Rossum wrote:
Several people at Google seem to have independently discovered that
despite all of the platform-independent goodness in subprocess.py, you
still need to be platform aware.
I can verify this. For CP we went back to using spawnl, but in an
internal project we checked
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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On Aug 21, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.1.0/
Unicode 5.1.0 contains over 100,000 characters, and provides significant
Barry Warsaw wrote:
I agree. This seriously feels like new, potentially high risk code to
be adding this late in the game. The BDFL can always override, but
unless someone is really convincing that this is low risk high benefit,
I'd vote no for 2.6/3.0.
at least two Unicode experts have
I've been working on and reviewing some of the release blocking 2to3
patches and issues. Unfortunately, it seems like we don't have many
core devs available for reviewing 2to3 changes. I have one patch in
particular [1] that I would like to get in soon, since it changes the
API a bit to make it
On 2008-08-25 19:34, Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Aug 21, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.1.0/
Unicode 5.1.0 contains over 100,000 characters, and provides
significant additions and improvements... to existing features,
including new files and
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Guido van Rossum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Benjamin Peterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Barry Warsaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 21, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
I'm attaching the patch which fixes respecting LDFLAGS when
building libpython$(VERSION).so.
--
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
Index: Makefile.pre.in
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--- Makefile.pre.in (revision 66032)
+++ Makefile.pre.in (working copy)
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On Aug 25, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Barry Warsaw wrote:
I agree. This seriously feels like new, potentially high risk code
to be adding this late in the game. The BDFL can always override,
but unless someone is really
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On Aug 25, 2008, at 2:15 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
Guido's request was just for updating the Unicode database with
the data from 5.1 - without adding new support for properties or
changing the interfaces.
See this page for a list of changes to the
Barry Warsaw wrote:
You don't mean the experts claimed they weren't important, right?
Unimportant changes definitely don't need to go in now wink.
Well, at least Guido managed to figure out what I was trying to say ;-)
/F
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On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Fredrik Lundh wrote:
Barry Warsaw wrote:
You don't mean the experts claimed they weren't important, right?
Unimportant changes definitely don't need to go in now wink.
Well, at least Guido managed to figure out
Created bug report at http://bugs.python.org/issue3546.
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc wrote:
Yes, this can lead to some object cycle that are not collected.
See the attached script: a cycle involving a list iterator is
collected by the garbage collector, but a cycle with a dict iterator
is not.
This
Sry, wrong link. I meant http://bugs.python.org/issue3680.
Robert Schuppenies wrote:
Created bug report at http://bugs.python.org/issue3546.
Amaury Forgeot d'Arc wrote:
Yes, this can lead to some object cycle that are not collected.
See the attached script: a cycle involving a list iterator
Barry Warsaw wrote:
On Aug 21, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.1.0/
Unicode 5.1.0 contains over 100,000 characters, and provides
significant additions and improvements... to existing features,
including new files and upgrades to existing files.
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote:
I'm attaching the patch which fixes respecting LDFLAGS when
building libpython$(VERSION).so.
Please post your patch to bugs.python.org
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Adopt A Process
Guido van Rossum wrote:
If you call:
subprocess.call(cmd, shell=False)
Then it works on Linux, but fails on Windows because it does not
perform the Windows %PATHEXT% search that allows it to find that
svn.exe is the actual executable to be invoked.
Maybe the Windows implementation
On Aug 25, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Greg Ewing wrote:
Guido van Rossum wrote:
If you call:
subprocess.call(cmd, shell=False)
Then it works on Linux, but fails on Windows because it does not
perform the Windows %PATHEXT% search that allows it to find that
svn.exe is the actual executable to be
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