Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Loading Python on my Mac

2011-01-12 Thread skip
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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.7.1 build?

2010-11-29 Thread skip
micro release of a series doesn't include the .0. -- Skip Montanaro - s...@pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Searchable digest for this list?

2010-11-11 Thread skip
Google? Searching for: site:mail.python.org Break on __THE_PROCESS_HAS_FORKED_AND_YOU_CANNOT_USE_THIS_COREFOUNDATION_FUNCTIONALITY___YOU_MUST_EXEC__() to debug. yielded just two hits. -- Skip Montanaro - s...@pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net

[Pythonmac-SIG] XCode for OS X 10.5?

2010-06-25 Thread Skip Montanaro
can't find a version of XCode which works with Mac OS X 10.5. All Apple will show me on their dev site is XCode 3.2 which requires Snow Leopard. I can't build a dang thing - no make or gcc for instance. Any pointers appreciated. Thanks, Skip Montanaro

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [Python-Dev] Fwd: Broken link to download (Mac OS X)

2010-04-14 Thread skip
and libSystem, both in /usr/lib. Are you missing some header files perhaps? Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac

[Pythonmac-SIG] Test message ... please ignore

2010-02-06 Thread skip
Testing a change to the footer. You can ignore. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Whats the invalid syntax about

2009-05-31 Thread skip
... 6 ; 2 ; print some_list[3] 5 -- Skip Montanaro - s...@pobox.com - http://www.smontanaro.net/ America's vaunted free press notwithstanding, story ideas that expose the unseemly side of actual or potential advertisers tend to fall by the wayside. Not quite sure why

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Official 'right way' to create a universal build of Python?

2009-04-14 Thread skip
Mark Having done this, how do I package things up to transfer them to Mark the iBook? What files need to be transferred? If this is a one-time thing I would use brute force and tar up the entire source directory and put it over on your g4. Skip

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Can't convert simple Python script to bundle with py2app

2008-12-01 Thread Skip Montanaro
You're building a 2.7? what is that? I thought Python was going from 2.6 to 3.0. Building from Subversion trunk identifies itself as 2.7a0. There will be a number of other 2.x versions released more-or-less in parallel with 3.y versions. Skip

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Can't convert simple Python script to bundle with py2app

2008-11-30 Thread skip
='/Users/skip/Applications' \ --enable-shared --prefix='/Users/skip/local' \ CPPFLAGS='-I/Users/skip/local/include -I/opt/local/include' \ LDFLAGS='-L/Users/skip/local/lib -L/opt/local/lib' No .dylib file was created. I ran make altinstall

[Pythonmac-SIG] Building Python 2.3 on Mac OS X 10.5.5

2008-11-30 Thread skip
recent call last): File /Users/skip/.python.py, line 21, in ? from save_session import mark, save, load File /Users/skip/misc/python/save_session.py, line 21, in ? raise ImportError(session save/restore requires readline module) ImportError: session save/restore requires

[Pythonmac-SIG] Can't convert simple Python script to bundle with py2app

2008-11-28 Thread skip
I have a trivial little script: #!/usr/bin/env python import os import sys os.execl(/Users/skip/local/bin/gnuclient, *sys.argv[1:]) which I want to convert to a .app bundle. I downloaded and installed py2app using easy_install, successfully ran py2applet to generate

[Pythonmac-SIG] How to record audio from Python?

2008-09-04 Thread skip
Can I easily control audio record/playback from Python on my Mac? I know zip about audio recording or about Apple APIs via Python. Pointers to simple examples would be much appreciated. Thanks, Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] non-framework Python 2.5.2 has empty lib-dynload

2008-04-24 Thread skip
at the end of the output. You should see something like this: for i in X ; do \ if test $i != X; then \ echo /usr/bin/install -c -m 555 $i /Users/skip/local/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/`basename $i`; \ /usr/bin/install -c -m 555 $i /Users/skip/local/lib/python2.5

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] non-framework Python 2.5.2 has empty lib-dynload

2008-04-24 Thread skip
a symlink called python and install the Python man page. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] locating Python.h

2008-04-04 Thread skip
, the correct one to use is the one which corresponds to the Python executable you're using. I believe distutils uses sys.exec_prefix and the version of the running Pyhon to get a base directory for the installation. From there it's just a hop, skip and jump to the installed Include directory which

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to print unicode to OS-X Terminal.app

2008-02-13 Thread skip
(\xef, latin-1).encode(utf-8) '\xc3\xaf' print unicode(\xef, latin-1).encode(utf-8) ï -- Skip Montanaro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

[Pythonmac-SIG] Having trouble building Python w/ Tcl/Tk on my new Macbook Pro

2008-02-09 Thread skip
HPServicesInterface.framework drwxrwxr-x 7 root admin 238 Jan 31 00:40 HPSmartPrint.framework drwxrwxrwx 6 skip staff 204 Feb 8 2005 HaskellSupport.framework drwxr-xr-x 9 ellen wheel 306 Sep 6 2006 Mono.framework drwxrwxr-x 5 root admin 170 Aug 4 2007 PluginManager.framework

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Having trouble building Python w/ Tcl/Tk on my new Macbook Pro

2008-02-09 Thread skip
Thanks Nicholas Kevin for the hints about /Library and discovering the PPC-ed-ness of files. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pystone numbers for different Macs...

2008-01-21 Thread skip
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhrystone For the history of the pystone benchmark, UTSL: http://svn.python.org/view/python/trunk/Lib/test/pystone.py Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pystone numbers for different Macs...

2008-01-20 Thread skip
) Thanks. Is that something available on the entire line of Core 2 Duo CPUs? Is it something I can enable on my dual processor G5 or my G4 PowerBook? If so, let me know and I'll add more rows. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pystone numbers for different Macs...

2008-01-20 Thread skip
into things here. The pystones benchmark isn't multithreaded so even if Python was free-threaded the pystones benchmark wouldn't benefit from it. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pystone numbers for different Macs...

2008-01-20 Thread skip
a reasonable speedup (35461 - 37313). Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pystone numbers for different Macs...

2008-01-20 Thread skip
Jack So: any other speculations as to why 2.66Ghz-3.0Ghz gives only a 1% Jack increase in pystones? Maybe compilation flags. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

[Pythonmac-SIG] Pystone numbers for different Macs...

2008-01-19 Thread skip
://wiki.python.org/moin/MacPython/MacModelPerformance If you could help by adding some rows to the table, especially for current MacBook, MacBook Pro or (in the near future, MacBook Air) models, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, -- Skip Montanaro - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ The major

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] readline support for OS X Leopard

2007-10-22 Thread skip
readline module is linked against that: % otool -L ~/local/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/readline.so /Users/skip/local/lib/python2.6/lib-dynload/readline.so: /opt/local/lib/libreadline.5.2.dylib (compatibility version 5.0.0, current version 5.2.0) /opt/local/lib/libncursesw.5

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ctypes and gestalt

2007-09-25 Thread skip
Bill The only use for the gestalt dependency is to check the version of Bill OS X. Bill I'd like to replace that with ... Looks find to me. I say check it in and let people (or buildbots) complain if something breaks. Skip

[Pythonmac-SIG] How to generate C files in Mac/Modules?

2007-08-22 Thread skip
How are all the extension modules in Mac/Modules generated? I'm trying to remove PyArg_Parse() from the Python 3 C API. They use PyArg_Parse extensively. If they were autogenerated I'd rather fix the generator instead of editing each file by hand. Thanks, Skip

[Pythonmac-SIG] Can someone help me reverse engineer this installer?

2007-07-03 Thread skip
apps. Thx, Skip Montanaro ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython wiki moved to Python wiki - now it's your turn...

2007-03-30 Thread skip
Kevin I was just looking at the new MacPython pages at the Python Kevin wiki--it appears nothing has been done with them since Skip moved Kevin them over. I'm thinking this is a terrific opportunity to bring Kevin them up to date: would anyone mind if I got started? A lot

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Roundup Issue Tracker

2007-02-28 Thread skip
Samuel Anyone on this list installed the python based roundup issue Samuel tracker with framework python2.5? Nope... Samuel How did you use --prefix or --install_scripts with setup.py? Something like python setup.py install --prefix=/alter/na/tive/dir Skip

[Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython wiki moved to Python wiki - now it's your turn...

2007-02-12 Thread skip
, even if you ignore the spam problem, so a little general TLC would probably help. Skip (*) Thank goodness for Emacs and Mozex... ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

[Pythonmac-SIG] Any decision about the pythonmac.org wiki?

2007-02-11 Thread skip
). Would that work for you? Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Any decision about the pythonmac.org wiki?

2007-02-11 Thread skip
pages. Can you stick in a redirect or rewrite on your web server that maps all URLs which contain action=edit to a static page that says the wiki is frozen or is undergoing maintenance? I'll slurp, clean and map URLs as necessary, then install the result in the proper place. Thx, Skip

[Pythonmac-SIG] So what can we do to clean up the wiki?

2006-12-30 Thread skip
of the pages that are returned should just be deleted. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Hello, and Wiki vandalism

2006-12-29 Thread skip
, it seems to be Uche re-submitting the spam version. Really strange. Leaves me Uche wondering what's the status of admin on the wiki. I just set up a login. I don't even get a revert link with I click the info link. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pysqlite build problem

2006-10-16 Thread skip
. They were there by default. I believe I tried taking them out leaving just /usr/local/* and the results were worse. I'll go back and give it another try when I have a chance. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http

[Pythonmac-SIG] Pysqlite build problem

2006-10-15 Thread skip
of stdarg.h. /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink to /usr/bin/gcc-4.0. Software Update says my machine is up-to-date. I must be missing something, but what? Thx, Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Pysqlite build problem

2006-10-15 Thread skip
skip I'm trying to get pysqlite 2.3.2 built on my Mac (OSX 10.4.8, skip gcc-4.0, Python 2.4.4c1) ... skip stdarg.h: No such file or directory/usr/include/stdarg.h:4:25: skip error: stdarg.h: No such file or directory I updated setup.cfg to include /usr/lib/gcc

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Wiki suggestions

2006-09-24 Thread skip
Perry I'm curious if anyone on this list has either a suggestion for Perry some Python based Wiki software or a pointer to a site that can Perry help me in my search. MoinMoin? http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac Python is DEAD

2006-04-19 Thread skip
, including a completely new tool chain used to build it, details about updating various bits like NEWS have been lost by many. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac Python is DEAD

2006-04-19 Thread skip
Ronald It is annoying that www.python.org/download/mac doesn't mention Ronald the universal installer. It does now. It will take a few minutes for the global build process to update the website, but I checked in a minimal change to Subversion. Skip

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fixing the documentation...

2006-04-19 Thread skip
changes directly to me I'll try and get to them within a few hours or a day. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Icons for universal build (was: Download page on www.python.org now updated)

2006-03-04 Thread skip
Brendan Python Documents: http://twototango.blogs.com/PythonDocument.icns Brendan Python Launcher: http://twototango.blogs.com/PythonLauncher.icns Brendan Idle: http://twototango.blogs.com/Idle.icns Dumb question probably, but what reads/writes those files? Skip

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-03-02 Thread skip
. Many people younger than 30 will not understand the reference. Most people outside North America and Europe won't know what it means either. I think you just have to accept that snakes are going to be part of the package. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-27 Thread skip
to you? It's got the python-squeezing-the-apple icon for me. If that's not the case for you perhaps you just need to do a page reload or empty your browser's cache (or your proxy server's cache). Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Download page on www.python.org now updated

2006-02-25 Thread skip
, just haven't had the chance. At the moment I'm trying to get the pyramid stuff working. Tim Parkin is helping me via the net. Once I've either gotten that taken care of (or given up on it) I will update the content and check in the relevant files. Skip

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to fetch iCal todo description?

2006-02-12 Thread skip
, Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

[Pythonmac-SIG] ical.py loose in the wild

2006-02-12 Thread skip
My little iCal event/todo manipulator is loose and available from my Python Bits page: http://orca.mojam.com/~skip/python/ It allows you to add or print iCal events and todos from the command line. You can also feed appropriately formatted email messages to it and turn them into todos

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] appscript introspection?

2006-02-11 Thread skip
ned 1. appscript supplies a help method for appscript objects. has You can also render terminology to HTML file using the htmldoc has module. Easiest way is via HTMLDictionary Thanks for the excellent help. They are just what I need... Skip

[Pythonmac-SIG] How to fetch iCal todo description?

2006-02-11 Thread skip
line. DUE;TZID=America/Chicago:20060221T00 END:VTODO ... END:VCALENDAR Any clue how I can fetch it via appscript? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro http://www.musi-cal.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] How to fetch iCal todo description?

2006-02-11 Thread skip
or going about getting that bit of information the wrong way). Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] strange #!/usr/bin/pythonw behavior...

2006-02-10 Thread skip
#!/usr/bin/pythonw Bob Sounds like you're using OS X 10.3. It shipped with pythonw as a Bob shell script, not an executable. Yes, thanks. Shoulda thought to actually look at /usr/bin/pythonw... Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] strange #!/usr/bin/pythonw behavior...

2006-02-10 Thread skip
#!/usr/bin/pythonw Bob Sounds like you're using OS X 10.3. It shipped with pythonw as a Bob shell script, not an executable. skip Yes, thanks. Shoulda thought to actually look at skip /usr/bin/pythonw... Alas, explicitly specifying the long path didn't work either

[Pythonmac-SIG] appscript introspection?

2006-02-10 Thread skip
such information? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro http://www.musi-cal.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

[Pythonmac-SIG] strange #!/usr/bin/pythonw behavior...

2006-02-09 Thread skip
. Am I missing something? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro http://www.musi-cal.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac Intel Python status?

2006-01-27 Thread skip
to work with it, but eventually started using some readline functionality which libedit doesn't provide. I don't recall what that is. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Mac Intel Python status?

2006-01-25 Thread skip
the readline checks in setup.py. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Database (SQL prefered) access on MacPython

2005-12-02 Thread skip
. Another guy here at work has used Sybase on his Mac (built the Object Craft module against the FreeTDS stuff). Pick your poison. -- Skip Montanaro Katrina Benefit Concerts: http://www.musi-cal.com/katrina [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] what's the plural of Emacs?

2005-06-15 Thread Skip Montanaro
be a reasonable option. There is a Carbon patch for XEmacs (contributed by the same guy) that's available as a a branch on the XEmacs CVS repository. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] On posting long urls

2005-05-19 Thread Skip Montanaro
Jack I've got the following javascript snippet in a bookmark in Jack Safari's bookmark bar: Jack javascript:void(location.href='http://tinyurl.com/create.php?url='+location.href) Cool. Seems to work with Firefox as well (1.0.3 on Solaris/Intell in my case). Skip

[Pythonmac-SIG] Silly question perhaps, but how do I use py2app?

2005-05-18 Thread Skip Montanaro
-Power_Macintosh/python2.4-standalone/app/lib-dynload creating build/bdist.darwin-7.9.0-Power_Macintosh/python2.4-standalone/app/Frameworks error: You must specify either app or plugin I'd appreciate some tips on how to use it. Thanks, -- Skip Montanaro [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Recursion limit in OS X?

2005-05-12 Thread Skip Montanaro
8192 Works for me at least. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [OT] To upgrade Mac OSX or not?

2005-03-03 Thread Skip Montanaro
Thanks. I'll have to check to see if that will work for my laptop. I have plenty of other stuff on my plate though, so this particular issue has sort of moved to the back burner... Bob If it runs 10.2, it'll run 10.3. You'll probably notice better Bob performance, too.

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonmac Wiki has been spammed.

2005-02-08 Thread Skip Montanaro
managed for the python.org wiki: http://www.python.org/moin/WikiSpam That also includes a link to the main wiki page for that facility. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonmac Wiki has been spammed.

2005-02-08 Thread Skip Montanaro
to move would be available. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] pythonmac Wiki has been spammed.

2005-02-08 Thread Skip Montanaro
can Bob still url rewrite to the right place. Let me check on the python.org maintainers list and get back to you (off-list unless there are others that care about these minutiae). Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] fink vs DarwinPorts?

2005-02-07 Thread Skip Montanaro
mwh I think there's a fair bit actually -- gnutar, bash, gnumake... Not to mention gcc... Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] fink vs DarwinPorts?

2005-02-07 Thread Skip Montanaro
Not to mention gcc... Bob I said ... until you install Developer Tools. Mac OS X doesn't Bob ship stock with gcc. Sorry, I missed that. In any case, even if gcc isn't distributed by default, it's certainly used to build everything, isn't it? Skip

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [OT] To upgrade Mac OSX or not?

2005-01-25 Thread Skip Montanaro
Am I missing something? Charles Umm . . . Software Update? Software Update won't take me from 10.2 to 10.3. I'm as Software Updated as I can be on my laptop, but it's still 10.2. Skip ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@python.org