Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-27 Thread Peter
Dave wrote: I think what is needed is a manufacturer license that can be extended to people who are developing hardware and who need a close level of integration between the OS and hardware. The license should have a simple per unit fee,and the manufacturer should be responsible for

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-27 Thread gdgqler
On 26 Jan 2011, at 16:11, Tony Firshman wrote: thorsten herbert wrote, on 26/Jan/11 16:01 | Jan26: Major QL hardware is practically impossible as long as the QL operating system situation remains as it has been for almost a decade. The only reasonable way out seems to be a restructured

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-27 Thread Marcel Kilgus
gdgqler wrote: One other way, for Peter, is an open source version of SMSQ. This is well overdue! Times have changed. Just for the record, the current license was quite fitting for the time and I'm still in favour of some aspects of it, but all in all I don't mind a different license if it

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-27 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4d3de519.5000...@dunbar-it.co.uk, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk writes Hi Norman, Of course ... :-) . just re-defining the 'genre'. Perhaps a QPUB ... would be another option? I have ebooks in the Psion format, on older small device - RiscStation. PS - Good luck with

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-27 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message AANLkTim6KHeFQGVYiOOiqS33b149p3GG7kA=+0kon...@mail.gmail.com, Plastic plasticu...@gmail.com writes On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I didn't understand most of whats being said here, other than 'fit it all in an QL' and 'ARM', the

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-27 Thread Peter Graf
Tony Firshman wrote: One other way, for Peter, is an open source version of SMSQ. At least it _was_. Now that so much time has been spent toward a Minerva based solution with other drivers, SMSQ/E would probably not save me work anymore. Times have changed. A decade ago, an open source SMSQ/E

[Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-26 Thread thorsten herbert
The idea of a QL in a CPLD is nice. Hi Peter,Could you get into detail regarding the QL in a CPLD? I'm keen to know more about possible future Hardware development for the QL. I would love to have a replacement board for the original QL case which has a timeless wonderfull design. Having a

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-26 Thread Peter
Hi Thorsten, [...] I'm keen to know more about possible future Hardware development for the QL. [...] Very nice that you still have interest in major QL hardware. However, I have already spent more time on discussions than I probably should. Major QL hardware is practically impossible as

[Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-26 Thread thorsten herbert
Major QL hardware is practically impossible as long as the QL operating system situation remains as it has been for almost a decade. The only reasonable way out seems to be a restructured Minerva with new drivers. Work on it continues slowly. I'm not aware of that information. Who is the

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-26 Thread Tony Firshman
thorsten herbert wrote, on 26/Jan/11 16:01 | Jan26: Major QL hardware is practically impossible as long as the QL operating system situation remains as it has been for almost a decade. The only reasonable way out seems to be a restructured Minerva with new drivers. Work on it continues slowly.

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-26 Thread Plastic
I think what is needed is a manufacturer license that can be extended to people who are developing hardware and who need a close level of integration between the OS and hardware. The license should have a simple per unit fee, and the manufacturer should be responsible for supporting the OS on that

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-25 Thread Norman Dunbar
Morning Dave, My real heart's desire is, ironically, a hardware/software project, to put together a package of an ARM-based embedded computer with Linux, booting right into uQLx, so that it is basically a QL. Getting it so it can fit inside a QL case with PSU and a couple of laptop SATA HDs

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-25 Thread Peter
Plastic wrote: The reason I said ARM is because it's readily available extremely cheaply, easy to design with, and there's a plethora of available boards already. You could use any Microcontroller with Linux. It is debatable which non- 68K controller would be the best. I might vote for

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-25 Thread Tony Firshman
Norman Dunbar wrote, on 25/Jan/11 08:23 | Jan25: My real heart's desire is, ironically, a hardware/software project, to put together a package of an ARM-based embedded computer with Linux, booting right into uQLx, so that it is basically a QL. Getting it so it can fit inside a QL case with PSU

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-25 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi Tony, ... I said That must have cost you an arm and a leg - innocently I assure you. He had physical problems and very little use of his arms and hands. Oh dear! I used to have an expression for my unwillingness to carry out a requested task, or whatever. I used to reply I'd rather stick

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-25 Thread gdgqler
On 25 Jan 2011, at 16:43, Norman Dunbar wrote: ... I said That must have cost you an arm and a leg - innocently I assure you. He had physical problems and very little use of his arms and hands. Oh dear! I used to have an expression for my unwillingness to carry out a requested task, or

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-25 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Oh dear! I used to have an expression for my unwillingness to carry out a requested task, or whatever. I used to reply I'd rather stick my arm in a mincer!. I used it for many years, possibly irritating many people as I did so. One day a new girl started at work in my office. I was just

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-25 Thread Roy Wood
On 25/01/2011 16:18, Tony Firshman wrote: Norman Dunbar wrote, on 25/Jan/11 08:23 | Jan25: My real heart's desire is, ironically, a hardware/software project, to put together a package of an ARM-based embedded computer with Linux, booting right into uQLx, so that it is basically a QL.

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-25 Thread Tony Firshman
gdgqler wrote, on 25/Jan/11 16:58 | Jan25: On 25 Jan 2011, at 16:43, Norman Dunbar wrote: ... I said That must have cost you an arm and a leg - innocently I assure you. He had physical problems and very little use of his arms and hands. Oh dear! I used to have an expression for my

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-25 Thread Tony Firshman
Roy Wood wrote, on 25/Jan/11 17:52 | Jan25: On 25/01/2011 16:18, Tony Firshman wrote: Norman Dunbar wrote, on 25/Jan/11 08:23 | Jan25: My real heart's desire is, ironically, a hardware/software project, to put together a package of an ARM-based embedded computer with Linux, booting right

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-25 Thread Plastic
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Peter pg...@q40.de wrote: Plastic wrote: The reason I said ARM is because it's readily available extremely cheaply, easy to design with, and there's a plethora of available boards already. You could use any Microcontroller with Linux. It is debatable

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-25 Thread Peter Graf
Plastic wrote: Boring mainstream means cheap mainstream In my humble opinion not cheaper for the special QL-style target we were talking. means long term availability of standard designs at commodity prices. The opposite. Average lifespan for today's mainstream ARM MCUs is shorter than for

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Lee Privett
, 2011 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request... Malcolm, SMSQ/E was just going through its open-source birth when I left the scene last time. I did get it, but never used it due to the compete inadequacy of the hardware I had. I'm not at all interested in the commercial

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread gdgqler
On 24 Jan 2011, at 10:53, Lee Privett wrote: On a slightly different note, I used to own the compilers Supecharge and Turbo the first time around and now I have a copy of the latest Turbo. I have bought Qliberator to compare them both as eventually I want to compile my programs so that

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Lee Privett
:08 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request... On 24 Jan 2011, at 10:53, Lee Privett wrote: On a slightly different note, I used to own the compilers Supecharge and Turbo the first time around and now I have a copy of the latest Turbo. I have bought Qliberator to compare them

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Peter
Hi Dave, how about a commandline tool which can automatically delete a whole directotry tree with all files in it? :-) Never found this yet... All the best Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Plastic
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Peter pg...@q40.de wrote: Hi Dave, how about a commandline tool which can automatically delete a whole directotry tree with all files in it? :-) Never found this yet... All the best Peter You design computers before breakfast, so obviously that sounds

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Norman Dunbar
Afternoon all, how about a commandline tool which can automatically delete a whole directotry tree with all files in it? :-) Go to Dilwyn's website and download the source code for Winback. (A hard disc backup tool wot I wrote!) In there is a utility called something like

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Neil Riley
I like the idea of a Tower defence type game. Plants vs Zombies, h, not sure the QL can quite manage PS3 level graphics and I'm not sure the 68000 series can keep up with the CELL processor but looking on the bright side, Halo has been ported over to the VCS2600 ( I kid you not!) and that

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Plastic
PvZ is very suited to the QL, since it's just a 6x10 grid. It doesn't need the fancy graphics. However, obviously, it would need to be changed somewhat... Shielding against UFOs or something. I'm also considering a block move type game, where you have to push blocks around to reach things or

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi Dave, The main problem I'm having with the ATC sim idea is that I would need to design and use a custom miniature font, and then draw it somewhere else, then AND/OR it into the video display to allow planes to overlap, since there's no transparent backgrounds in QDOS. Does OVER 1 (or OVER

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Plastic
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.ukwrote: Hi Dave, The main problem I'm having with the ATC sim idea is that I would need to design and use a custom miniature font, and then draw it somewhere else, then AND/OR it into the video display to allow planes to

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Norman Dunbar
Evening Dave, Does OVER 1 (or OVER -1) not work for you? *blush* See, told you the memory was duff! That's why I'm doing this! :) Well, you've been away for a while! ;-) Anyway, I haven't done much SuperBasic programming for a long time now, what little QL programming I get to do is purely for

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message AANLkTikmqzZJEH+-VNOz=vbwv1oa5myf_o3oesg8x...@mail.gmail.com, Plastic plasticu...@gmail.com writes PvZ is very suited to the QL, since it's just a 6x10 grid. It doesn't need the fancy graphics. However, obviously, it would need to be changed somewhat... Shielding against UFOs or

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Malcolm Cadman
plasticu...@gmail.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request... Malcolm, SMSQ/E was just going through its open-source birth when I left the scene last time. I did get it, but never used it due to the compete inadequacy

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message AANLkTi=0w96s+8syUEe8TUUA+2mnquzMGDCur=aae...@mail.gmail.com, Plastic plasticu...@gmail.com writes Malcolm, SMSQ/E was just going through its open-source birth when I left the scene last time. I did get it, but never used it due to the compete inadequacy of the hardware I had. I'm

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Malcolm Cadman
. - Sent from my Laptop running XP but emulating the QL using QPC2 - Original Message - From: gdgqler gdgq...@gmail.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request... On 24 Jan 2011, at 10:53, Lee

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Norman Dunbar
Evening Malcolm, An ebook Reader, would actually be quite cool, and up to date ... a QL like Kindle ... :-) . I guess it could be called Qindle? I'm afraid that the Kindle format for it's books is proprietary and, as far as I can tell, undocumented. Most eReaders can handle EPUB format

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 24/01/11 20:46, Norman Dunbar wrote: http://www.idpf.org/ That's a bit technical, Wikipedia does it in a more manageable style at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB. Cheers, Norman. -- Norman Dunbar Dunbar IT Consultants Ltd Registered address: Thorpe House 61 Richardshaw Lane Pudsey

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Peter Graf
Plastic wrote: My real heart's desire is, ironically, a hardware/software project, to put together a package of an ARM-based embedded computer with Linux, booting right into uQLx, so that it is basically a QL. Getting it so it can fit inside a QL case with PSU and a couple of laptop SATA HDs

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Plastic
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Peter Graf pg...@q40.de wrote: Plastic wrote: My real heart's desire is, ironically, a hardware/software project, to put together a package of an ARM-based embedded computer with Linux, booting right into uQLx, so that it is basically a QL. Getting it so

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Lee Privett
Ok, I didn't understand most of whats being said here, other than 'fit it all in an QL' and 'ARM', the first sounds exciting the second would have a certain person spinning in their grave if 1. they were in one and 2. if it was implemented :-) Lee Privett

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-24 Thread Plastic
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lee Privett lee.priv...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I didn't understand most of whats being said here, other than 'fit it all in an QL' and 'ARM', the first sounds exciting the second would have a certain person spinning in their grave if 1. they were in one and 2. if

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-23 Thread Tony Firshman
Plastic wrote, on 23/Jan/11 02:13 | Jan23: Dave/ Well, today was fun. First, I re-discovered that integer handling is about 30% slower than floating point, which seems very counter-intuitive to me. Yes that was to me too. Laurence Reeves (Minerva author) explained it once but I forget. I

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-23 Thread gdgqler
On 23 Jan 2011, at 08:38, Tony Firshman wrote: It is worth looking at Minerva - wasn't it you who was wondering?. It is not *all* about work in depth. There are many front end improvements, not least being the ram failure report. Have a look at the manual on Dilwyn Jones' site:

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-23 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4d3a784a.90...@sbcglobal.net, Timothy Swenson swenso...@sbcglobal.net writes Dave, The Turbo compiler (and Turbo Toolkit) are now freeware and available, and can be found on this page: http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/turbo/index.html You'll also find a large number of programming tools

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-23 Thread Plastic
Malcolm, SMSQ/E was just going through its open-source birth when I left the scene last time. I did get it, but never used it due to the compete inadequacy of the hardware I had. I'm not at all interested in the commercial marketability of what I might do, but do understand the non-commercial

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-22 Thread Plastic
Well, today was fun. First, I re-discovered that integer handling is about 30% slower than floating point, which seems very counter-intuitive to me. Second, I did some demonstrations to find out which was faster... large dimensioned arrays, or ALCHPing some memory and PEEK/POKEing it directly .

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-22 Thread Daniele Terdina
to treat normal floating point variables as integers by using the IMPLICIT% keyword. Daniele Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:13:56 -0600 From: plasticu...@gmail.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request... Well, today was fun. First, I re-discovered

[Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-21 Thread Plastic
Hi all. So, I recently had a head injury that gave me some concentration and short term memory problems. From my past experience with this type of injury in 1994, I know the best therapy is to work my brain, stretch it, make demands. I have use of a QL software emulator. It can emulate the basic

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-21 Thread Rich Mellor
On 22/01/2011 06:03, Plastic wrote: Hi all. So, I recently had a head injury that gave me some concentration and short term memory problems. From my past experience with this type of injury in 1994, I know the best therapy is to work my brain, stretch it, make demands. I have use of a QL

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-21 Thread Timothy Swenson
Dave, The Turbo compiler (and Turbo Toolkit) are now freeware and available, and can be found on this page: http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/turbo/index.html You'll also find a large number of programming tools at the main index for Dilywn's side: http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/downloads.html You can

Re: [Ql-Users] Programming project request...

2011-01-21 Thread Plastic
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:23 AM, Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.ukwrote: On 22/01/2011 06:03, Plastic wrote: As for a SuperBASIC compiler... Lightning is a utility which increase the speed of graphics and text routines in any program which uses the standard QDOS routines, it is not a