Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-15 Thread Stephen Usher
Seeing all this discussion about possible new hardware etc. and the risks etc. is why I've come to the conclusion that there's never going to be any new hardware. It's just not economically viable: (a) The cost in time and money to design and build would be high. (b) The size of the market is too

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-15 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC? Well ... 2 years is a long time in computing ... :-) ... so may be some optimism that new ideas can take seed. And in those 2 years 86

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-15 Thread Matrassyl
In a message dated 15/02/2007 09:40:16 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seeing all this discussion about possible new hardware etc. and the risks etc. is why I've come to the conclusion that there's never going to be any new hardware. It's just not economically viable: (a)

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-14 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Basically you are in an all or nothing situation. You have to first of design your board on paper and try very hard to make sure it will be a working board. Once you start to actually build the hardware, then you cannot talk in terms

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-14 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Per I think you miss the point sometimes. You said The QL was never only about hardware for quite a number of enthusiasts, and therefore it is still going strong in its emulated form. If you want the best QL platform money can buy,

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-13 Thread Marcel Kilgus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. like previous QL hardware efforts that started this discussion the QPC2 software is a one man show. If Marcel loses interest QPC2 is dead. Just one quick point: if I completely lose interest I plan to release QPC2 in the wild. By the way, new release for Vista is

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-13 Thread Stephen Usher
I've just had a thought... Instead of building new hardware, reuse very common old hardware which is easy to find on places such as eBay... i.e. Amiga 1200 etc. Now, if someone could write a version of QDOS etc. for that platform which could be burned onto ROM (the Amiga ROMs are easy to access

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-13 Thread QL2K
Instead of building new hardware, reuse very common old hardware which is easy to find on places such as eBay... i.e. Amiga 1200 etc. Yes I'm agree, this sound OK. But I searching an Amiga 1200 with a french keyboard, and it's difficult to find one. Now, if someone could write a version of

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-13 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:55:39 -, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but programs like QWord show that the OS can now do good graphics ... it just needs another platform to run on, at present. That depends on

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-13 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: P Witte To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC? As a final thought Quanta could stimulate this by making a prize (£s X-prize) for the first team to say design and make a prototype

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-13 Thread Matrassyl
In a message dated 13/02/2007 19:33:40 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If your paper design proves to work in practice, fine. If it doesn't you may be able to get it to work by a bit of tweaking. You can also be in a situation in which you get now return whatsoever on the

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-12 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Yes, I could put the program on my site if required. -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Robert Newson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC? Stephen Usher wrote: Hi Steve, ... I find with 2M

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-12 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I would happily fork out £300-350 for a SDGC ( Super Duper GC ) but it would have to be a marked jump in performance from SGC and allow for reasonable graphics. Being a gamer I dream of QL Quake ( wel it is open C source ! ) running on a Black box QL. It is developments like this that kick

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-12 Thread Rich Mellor
On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:55:39 -, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Neil Riley wrote: Guys, I would happily fork out £300-350 for a SDGC ( Super Duper GC ) but it would have to be a marked jump in performance

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-12 Thread Matrassyl
Hi Per I think you miss the point sometimes. You said The QL was never only about hardware for quite a number of enthusiasts, and therefore it is still going strong in its emulated form. If you want the best QL platform money can buy, get QPC2 and stick it in your PC. For quite a

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-12 Thread Francois Lanciault
Le 07-02-12 à 17:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi Per I think you miss the point sometimes. You said The QL was never only about hardware for quite a number of enthusiasts, and therefore it is still going strong in its emulated form. If you want the best QL platform money can

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-11 Thread Matrassyl
There are suppliers who make custom computer on the board 68060 systems pricipally for industry. To my untrained eye the specs look similar to the Qx) without the ISA slots. Would take away the fun of designing a new system but might simplify the problem to interfacing to aurora/ original

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-11 Thread Tony Firshman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah there are lots of things one could put on it. However I suspect the market does not exist for such a development. It would be great to be proved wrong. It need maybe 40 to 50 people willing to commit to spending

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-11 Thread Rick Chagouri-Brindle
Well, here's number 2! Count me in! Tony Firshman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah there are lots of things one could put on it. However I suspect the market does not exist for such a development. It would be great to be proved wrong.

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-11 Thread Rick Chagouri-Brindle
Actually, on reflection, count me in for two!!! Tony Firshman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah there are lots of things one could put on it. However I suspect the market does not exist for such a development. It would be great to be

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-11 Thread Tony Firshman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Malcolm Cadman wrote: snip If a new Card could hit more like the £100 to £200 price range then I believe there would be an interest, and a market for it. I doubt if it would be economic even at £200. It is likely to be pretty expensive to

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-09 Thread Stephen Usher
Robert, Well, there is another QL + Trump Card owning lurker out here as well... Rich Mellor wrote: I would be interested in sourcing a new development of SGCs (must write to Stuart about this), but I do wonder how many people would still be willing to pay ?200-?300 for a SGC nowadays.

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I would be interested in sourcing a new development of SGCs (must write to Stuart about this), but I do wonder how many people would still be willing to pay £200-£300 for a SGC nowadays. Certainly with a need to make 50 boards

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-09 Thread Robert Newson
Stephen Usher wrote: Hi Steve, ... I find with 2M on my GC, data and programs just rattle around inside! Even with the base 128K machine (around 77K(?) free for use) I used to be able to do/run more than I could with a 540K PC. Or are people becoming so bloatware expecting that 4M sounds

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-08 Thread omega
Hello John from Wales, Sergiusz, Such an ad. no problem here! But (today) if you find a GC or SGC 'not used' you will succeed where many others have failed. But, if so, please reveal your source(s) here! :-) Happy hunting and happy QLing, Thank you guys for support! I was thinking

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-08 Thread Rich Mellor
I would be interested in sourcing a new development of SGCs (must write to Stuart about this), but I do wonder how many people would still be willing to pay £200-£300 for a SGC nowadays. Certainly with a need to make 50 boards to make it worthwhile, I am not certain there would be a big

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-08 Thread Robert Newson
Rich Mellor wrote: I would be interested in sourcing a new development of SGCs (must write to Stuart about this), but I do wonder how many people would still be willing to pay £200-£300 for a SGC nowadays. Certainly with a need to make 50 boards to make it worthwhile, I am not certain

Re: [ql-users] Spare GC or SGC?

2007-02-07 Thread Sergiusz Jarczyk
Hi Hello, I wonder if anyone here has some spare (not used) GC or SGC for sale? My QL has only superQboard with 512k RAM, which is good, but not enough (ZX emulator is demanding). I would appreciate if you could drop me an email. Thank you and sorry for ad. Jan If anyone here have