Re: [ql-users] QLer ages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jones, Dilwyn, Bro Emrys, Tal-y-Bont, Gwynnedd :o) He he, good job you can pronounce Gwynedd coz you can't spell it ;-) Oh bollox - too many of those little N things! As long as the letter doesn't contain Lemsip this time (although being off sick at the moment it might do me good). I don't know, you try to help an invalid once in your life and he continually reminds you of it :o) Be afraid, be very afraid . :o) Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Sick Super Gold Card
Chaps. I've been lucky enough to obtain a Super Gold Card ( For which I am a happy chap) The downside is that it's experiencing problems whilst booting my QL. If i describe the screen that comes up whilst booting maybe itll sound familiar. Firstly, there isn't much of a delay before the following screen appears. Basically, the screen is the same every time, mainly a semi repeating pattern with plenty of Black and white and a few familiar greens and Red. More interestingly, Nearer the top of the screen are area's of letters, i.e. not just a pattern but some real letters which I am taking as being a good sign that the SGC is not actually dead. ok, the QL has crashed but Also, i removed the 68008 from my QL motherboard and tried again with the exact same result. At no time has my QL actually booted correctly. I am due to send this off to Tony Firshman, hopefully re-setting the chips will do the trick, I just thought Id post this in case others had experienced something similar. Thanks, Neil ( new member and a little wet behind the ears ) *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01793-715380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Sick Super Gold Card
Sounds similar to one of my Aurora/SGC/QuBIDE machines which occasionally doesn't boot properly and I get Black and white horizontal stripes across the display with lettering at the top of the screen saying ROM VERSION NOT RECOGNISED CONTACT MIRACLE SYSTEMS FOR INFORMATION or words to that effect. I found that reseating the Di-Ren keyboard interface and/or the Rom (JS piggyback pair) sorts it all out for the next couple of months (oxidation?) Is all this familiar to anyone? Regards, John Gilpin.(Long term member and the ears are quite dry!!) - Original Message - From: Neil Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: [ql-users] Sick Super Gold Card Chaps. I've been lucky enough to obtain a Super Gold Card ( For which I am a happy chap) The downside is that it's experiencing problems whilst booting my QL. If i describe the screen that comes up whilst booting maybe itll sound familiar. Firstly, there isn't much of a delay before the following screen appears. Basically, the screen is the same every time, mainly a semi repeating pattern with plenty of Black and white and a few familiar greens and Red. More interestingly, Nearer the top of the screen are area's of letters, i.e. not just a pattern but some real letters which I am taking as being a good sign that the SGC is not actually dead. ok, the QL has crashed but Also, i removed the 68008 from my QL motherboard and tried again with the exact same result. At no time has my QL actually booted correctly. I am due to send this off to Tony Firshman, hopefully re-setting the chips will do the trick, I just thought Id post this in case others had experienced something similar. Thanks, Neil ( new member and a little wet behind the ears ) *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01793-715380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Sick Super Gold Card
Can't actually read the words as they are obviously broken up but I did wonder if MIRACLE SYSTEMS was in there somewhere trying to show itself. It's a starter for ten i guess. Chap in work had a look at the underside of the PCB and whilst he wasn't 100% sure, he suspected the possibility that the edge connector had a possible dry joint or more. JS ROM in my Ql ( not piggybacked though!? ), GC works fine with this QL. Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19 September 2006 10:24 Sounds similar to one of my Aurora/SGC/QuBIDE machines which occasionally doesn't boot properly and I get Black and white horizontal stripes across the display with lettering at the top of the screen saying ROM VERSION NOT RECOGNISED CONTACT MIRACLE SYSTEMS FOR INFORMATION or words to that effect. I found that reseating the Di-Ren keyboard interface and/or the Rom (JS piggyback pair) sorts it all out for the next couple of months (oxidation?) Is all this familiar to anyone? Regards, John Gilpin.(Long term member and the ears are quite dry!!) - Original Message - From: Neil Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: [ql-users] Sick Super Gold Card Chaps. I've been lucky enough to obtain a Super Gold Card ( For which I am a happy chap) The downside is that it's experiencing problems whilst booting my QL. If i describe the screen that comes up whilst booting maybe itll sound familiar. Firstly, there isn't much of a delay before the following screen appears. Basically, the screen is the same every time, mainly a semi repeating pattern with plenty of Black and white and a few familiar greens and Red. More interestingly, Nearer the top of the screen are area's of letters, i.e. not just a pattern but some real letters which I am taking as being a good sign that the SGC is not actually dead. ok, the QL has crashed but Also, i removed the 68008 from my QL motherboard and tried again with the exact same result. At no time has my QL actually booted correctly. I am due to send this off to Tony Firshman, hopefully re-setting the chips will do the trick, I just thought Id post this in case others had experienced something similar. Thanks, Neil ( new member and a little wet behind the ears ) *** The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact the company on 01793-715380, then delete it from your system. Please note neither the company nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any) for viruses. No contract may be concluded on behalf of the company by means of email communications. www.boxclever.co.uk *** ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QLer ages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jones, Dilwyn, Bro Emrys, Tal-y-Bont, Gwynnedd :o) He he, good job you can pronounce Gwynedd coz you can't spell it ;-) Oh bollox - too many of those little N things! As long as the letter doesn't contain Lemsip this time (although being off sick at the moment it might do me good). I don't know, you try to help an invalid once in your life and he continually reminds you of it :o) Be afraid, be very afraid . :o) Cheers, Norman. Oh oh...oh no, I've started giving Norman ideas :o( -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 14/09/2006 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] month number
Thanks. I had tried a similar piece of code myself, based on the fact that DATE=0 gives 1st January 1961, which (usefully) is a sunday. Stepping along that first year in units of the number of seconds in a 31 day month (doesn't matter where in the month thatmonth*31days happens to fall) allows DATE$(month*seconds_per_month) to return a string for somewhere in that month which allows you to extract the 3 digit month abbreviation and build up a template string of all the month names. I can also do the same for day names, again by using the fact that 1/1/1961 is a sunday. So work out the number of seconds per day and and use DAY$(day*seconds_per_day) to extract the day name: days$='' seconds_per_day = 24*60*60 FOR a=0 to 6:days$=days$DAY$(a*seconds_per_day) A fairly easy way to extract the language-dependent information for calendar headings, which is reliable as long as DATE=0 always remains at 1/1/1961 Rather late in the day I realised I'd have to make my diary program work for the other language modules allowed by SMSQ/E and wanted to try to find a way which would work with the currently supported modules (English, French, German, Italian and Spanish - LANGUAGE=34 is allowed but there seems to be no module for Spanish). Working as people have suggested using routines like the above allows future languages to be used too, as long as DATE=0 always signifies 1/1/1961 as it does on current machines. I also liked Francois's method of using a temporary language, although it wouldn't work in the specific context of my program. Once again this list has proved its worth to me! The collective sharing of information and ideas is a brilliant feature of the QL scene. -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] month number On 18 Sep 2006 at 17:17, Dilwyn Jones wrote: A help request: Hope this helps : DEFine FuNction make_all_months$ rem this makes a string JanFeb... in the current language rem this should be called during the initialisation part rem eg. all_months$=make_all_months$ LOCal string$,lp%,a$,temp string$=:a$=:temp=0 temp=60*60*24*31 FOR lp%=0 TO 11 a$=DATE$(lp%*temp) string$=string$a$(6 TO 8) END FOR lp% RETurn string$ END DEFine make_all_months$ : DEFine FuNction make_date$(dflag%,what_date) rem returns date as 01.01.1991 (dflag%=1) or 1991.01.31 (dflag%=0) rem if what_date0, then it is this date that will be returned rem this presumes that a variable all_month$ exists! LOCal a$,b$,res b$= IF what_date a$=DATE$(what_date) : rem make date passed as param into string ELSE a$=DATE$: rem current date into string END IF b$=a$(6 TO 8) : rem 3 letter month abbreviation res= b$ INSTR all_months$ : rem find it IF NOT res all_months$=make_all_months$ : rem not found?, make all_month$ res= b$ INSTR all_months$: rem and retry END IF res=(res+2)/3 : rem this is the month in figures b$=res:IF res10:b$=0b$: rem add leading 0 if necessary IF dflag%:RETurn a$(10 TO 11).b$.a$(1 TO 4) RETurn a$(1 TO 4).b$.a$(10 TO 11) END DEFine make_date$ : Should be self eplanatory. Wolfgang -- W. H. Lenerz www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com -- ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 14/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 14/09/2006 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QHelp
Ahh, yes, I understand 8-) Cheers...Ralf R. - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QHelp I guess that's probably because it's a modified Qlib_Run needed for FileInfo 2 perhaps? -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QHelp and menu_rext
Obviously I must have failed to transfer menu_rext when moving from QL to PC but ... I've dug out the QHelp disk (I kept all my masters) and no menu_rext, only sigext30_res! If Rich says I had it, I must take his word for it, but it's all very strange. I've tried to have a look on the Q60 support disks, on the off-chance that I might find a copy there, but qltools won't read them! Can someone please tell me where to get menu_rext or email me a copy? I don't fancy having to exhume my mothballed Q60 to see it it's there! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Sick Super Gold Card
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Gilpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Sounds similar to one of my Aurora/SGC/QuBIDE machines which occasionally doesn't boot properly and I get Black and white horizontal stripes across the display with lettering at the top of the screen saying ROM VERSION NOT RECOGNISED CONTACT MIRACLE SYSTEMS FOR INFORMATION or words to that effect. I found that reseating the Di-Ren keyboard interface and/or the Rom (JS piggyback pair) sorts it all out for the next couple of months (oxidation?) Is all this familiar to anyone? Regards, John Gilpin.(Long term member and the ears are quite dry!!) Is this a rising chip problem ? That is the heat generated over a period of time in the enclosed space of the QL ( remember no fan assisted ventilation ), allows microchips that are seated in to sockets ( DIL's ) to slowly raise themselves upwards. Hence less contact when in use, eventually. Answer is to carefully re-seat the chip(s). Usually, QL hardware is very reliable in use. Not bad for over 20 years old kit. - Original Message - From: Neil Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:40 AM Subject: [ql-users] Sick Super Gold Card Chaps. I've been lucky enough to obtain a Super Gold Card ( For which I am a happy chap) The downside is that it's experiencing problems whilst booting my QL. If i describe the screen that comes up whilst booting maybe itll sound familiar. Firstly, there isn't much of a delay before the following screen appears. Basically, the screen is the same every time, mainly a semi repeating pattern with plenty of Black and white and a few familiar greens and Red. More interestingly, Nearer the top of the screen are area's of letters, i.e. not just a pattern but some real letters which I am taking as being a good sign that the SGC is not actually dead. ok, the QL has crashed but Also, i removed the 68008 from my QL motherboard and tried again with the exact same result. At no time has my QL actually booted correctly. I am due to send this off to Tony Firshman, hopefully re-setting the chips will do the trick, I just thought Id post this in case others had experienced something similar. Thanks, Neil ( new member and a little wet behind the ears ) -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QHelp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ralf Reköndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hmm, Qlib_run in an FI_ directory? I always put those things in an directory rext_. Keeps my things tidy ;-). It comes with the distribution ... Yet we all have our ways of organising things for the QL environment ... it makes it a part of the fun . :-) - Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman To: ql-users Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QHelp 360 LRESPR windrive$ '_FI2_Qlib_run' 370 REMark Load FileInfo2 -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QHelp and menu_rext
The QHelp disk should have on it two zip files (one of which has QHelp in it), unzip and sigext30_res. On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:14:50 +0100, David McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously I must have failed to transfer menu_rext when moving from QL to PC but ... I've dug out the QHelp disk (I kept all my masters) and no menu_rext, only sigext30_res! If Rich says I had it, I must take his word for it, but it's all very strange. I've tried to have a look on the Q60 support disks, on the off-chance that I might find a copy there, but qltools won't read them! Can someone please tell me where to get menu_rext or email me a copy? I don't fancy having to exhume my mothballed Q60 to see it it's there! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services URL:http://www.rwapsoftware.co.uk URL:http://www.rwapadventures.com URL:http://www.rwapservices.co.uk URL:http://www.internetbusinessangels.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] month number
Dilwyn (with one 'n') said - ...The collective sharing of information and ideas is a brilliant feature of the QL scene. Couldn't agree more! Have a good one, wherever you are. John in Wales PS Still puzzled re; diff between O.S. and 'platform' in our recent context. :( -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 15/09/2006 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QHelp
For anyone not too familiar with menu_rext, this might help a little. The simplest pointer environment boot program starts with these lines: 100 TK2_EXT 110 LRESPR FLP1_PTR_GEN 120 LRESPR FLP1_WMAN 130 LRESPR FLP1_HOT_REXT 140 LRESPR FLP1_MENU_REXT 150 REMark add any other lrespr'ed fiels here, before the HOT_GO 900 HOT_GO A simple boot program like this will run most of the pointer environment programs around, needing only the addition of any extra LRESPR lines individual programs might need for their own specific files. Menu_Rext itself is a commercial file from Jochen Merz (also sometimes called QMenu when you buy the complete package from Jochen). It provides ready made menus such as a file selection menu for pointer driven programs. It's supplied with many commercial programs (look for a file called menu_rext on the disk) but can't normally be supplied with free programs as a royalty is usually payable for its inclusion. If you are using SMSQ/E (e.g. on a Q60) you won't need the ptr_gen, wman and hot_rext as they are already built into SMSQ/E. -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QHelp In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ralf Reköndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hmm, Qlib_run in an FI_ directory? I always put those things in an directory rext_. Keeps my things tidy ;-). It comes with the distribution ... Yet we all have our ways of organising things for the QL environment ... it makes it a part of the fun . :-) - Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman To: ql-users Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] QHelp 360 LRESPR windrive$ '_FI2_Qlib_run' 370 REMark Load FileInfo2 -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 14/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 14/09/2006 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] month number
Dilwyn (with one 'n') said - Oh dear, I'm not going to hear the last of that now am I? ...The collective sharing of information and ideas is a brilliant feature of the QL scene. Couldn't agree more! Have a good one, wherever you are. John in Wales PS Still puzzled re; diff between O.S. and 'platform' in our recent context. :( The operating system (QDOS or Windows) is that which is running your programs and making sure all the hardware bits and pieces of your computer work properly (or not as the case may be). The 'platform' in this context means the computer hardware on which the operating system being used is based. Thus if you are running QPC2 on Windows, the platform would probably be a PC, the operating system Windows running emulated SMSQ/E. If you are running uQLx on a Linux operating system, the platform could be a PC or vaguely referred to as a 'Linux box'. It can become a little confusing in some cases - if you try to run a QL emulator on some other emulated system (e.g. a Linux system running a Windows emulation on which you run a copy of QLay emulator). If you are running QDOS on a QL, the platform is a QL. If you are running QDOS Classic on a Q60, the platform is the Q60. It is not clear cut though, some people take 'platform' to mean the system on which your 'QL' is running, so platform in that case might refer to the PC or to the host operating system. Emulators do tend to blur definitions a little! As a quick rough and ready explanation, take the word 'platform' to mean the system on which your 'QL' is running, but you might have to take a guess as to whether the writer is referring to the hardware (computer system) or the software controlling it (the operating system) from the context of what was being discussed. Hope that helps a little! -- Dilwynnn Jonnes -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/448 - Release Date: 14/09/2006 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Sick Super Gold Card
Neil Riley wrote: Can't actually read the words as they are obviously broken up but I did wonder if MIRACLE SYSTEMS was in there somewhere trying to show itself. It's a starter for ten i guess. Chap in work had a look at the underside of the PCB and whilst he wasn't 100% sure, he suspected the possibility that the edge connector had a possible dry joint or more. JS ROM in my Ql ( not piggybacked though!? ), GC works fine with this QL. Ah not Minerva (8-)# In previous mail I meant to say three rows of numbers/chrs Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] US Show
I am sorry to have to tell you that I will be unable to attend the US show this year. I was all set to do so when my mother fell ill and was taken to hospital I had put off taking the decision about whether to go or not but, right now, I cannot be out of the country in case the worst happens. I hope you will all understand this and I hope you will have a good time there. I will be with you in spirit at least and try to make the next show. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] month number
Robert Newson wrote: OOps, typo: Obviously this: DEF my_mth_no(secs) should be DEF FN my_mth_no(secs) LOC dy, yr, mn dy = INT(secs / 86400) + 306 yr = INT((dy + .8) / 365.25) mn = INT((dy - INT(yr * 365.25) + 31) / 30.6) + 2 IF mn 12 : mn = mn - 12 RET mn END DEF ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
