Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Any idea what else might be causing the continuous hard disk activity slugging the PC to an almost unusable crawl? Nothing identifiable in the lists shown in Task Manager for example. Check how much RAM Windows reports and compare it to how much it's supposed to have. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Sorry to hear the bad news. I have no suggestions to how you resolve the PC problem but given the urgency, if you have web access and your netbook supports, then I recommend using Prezi (prezi.com) to complete the presentation. Hopefully when you then have the advantage of time, you'll be able to resolve the underlying PC problem. Good luck. Kenn Sent from my iPhone On 9 Oct 2014, at 12:39, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: After last night’s thunderstorms (it might be coincidence) my PC today is on a real go-slow. No-go might be a better term for it. Continuous hard disk access for several minutes when you click on any icon in a Windows program, starting a program takes 10 minutes or more, it took nearly 5 minutes to type one of the paragraphs in this email. I can’t find a solution online other than the inevitable “reinstall everything from scratch” which I know is a pathetic and unhelpful response from people who try to help but usually have no understanding of the problem. I’ve switched off the anti-virus and backups temporarily, in case the continuous hard disk activity is down to that (the last scan was clear). Windows has been restarted with no change. Just one program (Windows Live Mail) running, but the same no matter what’s running. Even QPC2 is slugged to a crawl. Any idea what else might be causing the continuous hard disk activity slugging the PC to an almost unusable crawl? Nothing identifiable in the lists shown in Task Manager for example. If I’m to complete a presentation for QL Is 30 I need to resolve this quickly today. I wouldn’t normally ask something like this on this list, I used my netbook (which is fine, so it’s not the wireless router [which shows little or no traffic – so no major update in progress] or broadband for example) to search online for any help, which was fruitless. I can’t use the netbook for the presentation as the PC is too slow to transfer the large files to it to work on. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Yup.. as Marcel says. Try looking under Windows error reporting too if you run an msinfo to file. I would check how much free space you have on your hard drive too, but I'm in agreement with Marcel. Either the RAM has got damaged, or the Windows swap file or HDD is to blame. Darren. Sent from my Android Smartphone On 9 Oct 2014 12:42, Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote: Any idea what else might be causing the continuous hard disk activity slugging the PC to an almost unusable crawl? Nothing identifiable in the lists shown in Task Manager for example. Check how much RAM Windows reports and compare it to how much it's supposed to have. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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3GB physical RAM installed, task manager says: Total 3037 Cached 979 Available 930 Free10 Processes 94 - some known (QPC, Dropbox, Windows Live Mail, AVG, NTI backup etc) unable to identify some of them from the meaningless names, some I know are essential Windows services Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 12:42 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Dilwyn Jones wrote: Any idea what else might be causing the continuous hard disk activity slugging the PC to an almost unusable crawl? Nothing identifiable in the lists shown in Task Manager for example. Check how much RAM Windows reports and compare it to how much it's supposed to have. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4037/8350 - Release Date: 10/08/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues
Dilwyn Jones wrote: 3GB physical RAM installed, task manager says: Total 3037 Cached 979 Available 930 Free10 Was a long shot, but this sounds legit. Does the system still use IDE drives? When, for some reason, the error rate of a device goes up the IDE controllers used to switch from DMA to PIO mode, rendering the drive dead slow. You can check this in the device manager. I think this is gone with SATA, though. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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No, SATA drive, with Windows in C: drive part of the hard disk, and everything else in D: There are two external backup drives, but no lights flashing on those. Long shot, I looked at the Indexing service, that says the indexing is complete and it's only indexing D: drive plus the essentials anyway. Whetever is going on is local and internal to the PC, there is very little or no network traffic incoming or outgoing. I ran the usual Windows troubleshooters which reported nothing at all. Totally mystified what's going on. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 12:58 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Dilwyn Jones wrote: 3GB physical RAM installed, task manager says: Total 3037 Cached 979 Available 930 Free10 Was a long shot, but this sounds legit. Does the system still use IDE drives? When, for some reason, the error rate of a device goes up the IDE controllers used to switch from DMA to PIO mode, rendering the drive dead slow. You can check this in the device manager. I think this is gone with SATA, though. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues
Dilwyn Jones wrote: No, SATA drive, with Windows in C: drive part of the hard disk, and everything else in D: Okay, one more. Download and run the Process monitor tool from MS and check if any application is generating lots of entries. This might be a somewhat painful process on a thrashing machine, though. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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The ones generating most entries are: AVGrsa.exe - presume a scan must be running even if I can't find or stop it (scan settings are set to 'basic' for minimal interference when machine is busy) BackupNowEZ - my backup program which I have to use as the external drive is over 2TB so M$ backup won't work, in theory (hah!) this is disabled temporarily - I think! no hard disk activity even though the process is generating a lot of entries. svchost.exe (not sure what this is) monitor.exe (less than the other three) There are lots more processes listed, but very few entries compared to these. Looks like it's the anti-virus but what is it up to since it's on minimum settings and shouldn't be running at this time of day anyway (it's normally set to run overnight and not to run at startup if a scan has been missed) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:54 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Dilwyn Jones wrote: No, SATA drive, with Windows in C: drive part of the hard disk, and everything else in D: Okay, one more. Download and run the Process monitor tool from MS and check if any application is generating lots of entries. This might be a somewhat painful process on a thrashing machine, though. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Svchost.exe is the Windows service host, you need this :) Looks like it's the AVG antivirus acting up. How much free space do you have on the drives? On 9 Oct 2014 14:30, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: The ones generating most entries are: AVGrsa.exe - presume a scan must be running even if I can't find or stop it (scan settings are set to 'basic' for minimal interference when machine is busy) BackupNowEZ - my backup program which I have to use as the external drive is over 2TB so M$ backup won't work, in theory (hah!) this is disabled temporarily - I think! no hard disk activity even though the process is generating a lot of entries. svchost.exe (not sure what this is) monitor.exe (less than the other three) There are lots more processes listed, but very few entries compared to these. Looks like it's the anti-virus but what is it up to since it's on minimum settings and shouldn't be running at this time of day anyway (it's normally set to run overnight and not to run at startup if a scan has been missed) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:54 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Dilwyn Jones wrote: No, SATA drive, with Windows in C: drive part of the hard disk, and everything else in D: Okay, one more. Download and run the Process monitor tool from MS and check if any application is generating lots of entries. This might be a somewhat painful process on a thrashing machine, though. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Ok, so it's not a swap space issue then... Maybe try using msconfig to stop any of the AVG files running at startup, and see does it run any better when you restart? If you do that, disconnect your internet access temporarily to avoid getting a virus in the interim. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 14:47, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: C:\ 243GB free of 453GB D:\ 282GB free of 454GB backup drive 1.44TB free of 3.TB Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:34 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Svchost.exe is the Windows service host, you need this :) Looks like it's the AVG antivirus acting up. How much free space do you have on the drives? On 9 Oct 2014 14:30, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: The ones generating most entries are: AVGrsa.exe - presume a scan must be running even if I can't find or stop it (scan settings are set to 'basic' for minimal interference when machine is busy) BackupNowEZ - my backup program which I have to use as the external drive is over 2TB so M$ backup won't work, in theory (hah!) this is disabled temporarily - I think! no hard disk activity even though the process is generating a lot of entries. svchost.exe (not sure what this is) monitor.exe (less than the other three) There are lots more processes listed, but very few entries compared to these. Looks like it's the anti-virus but what is it up to since it's on minimum settings and shouldn't be running at this time of day anyway (it's normally set to run overnight and not to run at startup if a scan has been missed) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:54 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Dilwyn Jones wrote: No, SATA drive, with Windows in C: drive part of the hard disk, and everything else in D: Okay, one more. Download and run the Process monitor tool from MS and check if any application is generating lots of entries. This might be a somewhat painful process on a thrashing machine, though. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Wow... that is the weirdest thing I've ever heard... I would suggest backing up everything while it's still running.. the anti virus must have a real foothold on the system... disabling it restored the system to a sort of default status with only one monitor. If booting was so slow with it disabled, it's unlikely to be that at fault.. No idea where to go from here, apart from running a cleaner and maybe a defrag. Very, very mysterious. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 15:43, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: OK, that was a VERY painful experience: 1. My second screen (AOC USB monitor) stopped working after disabling the anti-virus (now works after re-enabling). Absolutely no idea why. Shouldn't be any connection between them. 2. Bootup took ages - I could see the desktop icons redrawing pixel by pixel, not just icon by icon. 3. Windows Live Mail must have lost its index, since it claimed there were no emails. It seems to have rebuilt the index now and all emails present and correct. 4. I disabled the wireless broadband for a while but the endless hard disk activity just continued even when it and the antivirus were off. I had a look at my backup program schedule as well. It says every saturday and sunday daily backup fails to run or fail to complete and Monday to Friday backups reported as OK. This goes back several weeks. As far as I know, nothing is differently setup for weekends the antivirus and backups are set the same for every day. Gets more and more mysterious. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:51 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Ok, so it's not a swap space issue then... Maybe try using msconfig to stop any of the AVG files running at startup, and see does it run any better when you restart? If you do that, disconnect your internet access temporarily to avoid getting a virus in the interim. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 14:47, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: C:\ 243GB free of 453GB D:\ 282GB free of 454GB backup drive 1.44TB free of 3.TB Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:34 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Svchost.exe is the Windows service host, you need this :) Looks like it's the AVG antivirus acting up. How much free space do you have on the drives? On 9 Oct 2014 14:30, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: The ones generating most entries are: AVGrsa.exe - presume a scan must be running even if I can't find or stop it (scan settings are set to 'basic' for minimal interference when machine is busy) BackupNowEZ - my backup program which I have to use as the external drive is over 2TB so M$ backup won't work, in theory (hah!) this is disabled temporarily - I think! no hard disk activity even though the process is generating a lot of entries. svchost.exe (not sure what this is) monitor.exe (less than the other three) There are lots more processes listed, but very few entries compared to these. Looks like it's the anti-virus but what is it up to since it's on minimum settings and shouldn't be running at this time of day anyway (it's normally set to run overnight and not to run at startup if a scan has been missed) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:54 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Dilwyn Jones wrote: No, SATA drive, with Windows in C: drive part of the hard disk, and everything else in D: Okay, one more. Download and run the Process monitor tool from MS and check if any application is generating lots of entries. This might be a somewhat painful process on a thrashing machine, though. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Judging by the symptoms, you could try starting the PC up in safe mode and see if it is any better... However, I bet the lightning has caused damaged to a sector or two on your main hard disk... http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-vista/check-your-hard-disk-for-errors Rich On 09/10/2014 15:51, Darren Branagh wrote: Wow... that is the weirdest thing I've ever heard... I would suggest backing up everything while it's still running.. the anti virus must have a real foothold on the system... disabling it restored the system to a sort of default status with only one monitor. If booting was so slow with it disabled, it's unlikely to be that at fault.. No idea where to go from here, apart from running a cleaner and maybe a defrag. Very, very mysterious. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 15:43, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: OK, that was a VERY painful experience: 1. My second screen (AOC USB monitor) stopped working after disabling the anti-virus (now works after re-enabling). Absolutely no idea why. Shouldn't be any connection between them. 2. Bootup took ages - I could see the desktop icons redrawing pixel by pixel, not just icon by icon. 3. Windows Live Mail must have lost its index, since it claimed there were no emails. It seems to have rebuilt the index now and all emails present and correct. 4. I disabled the wireless broadband for a while but the endless hard disk activity just continued even when it and the antivirus were off. I had a look at my backup program schedule as well. It says every saturday and sunday daily backup fails to run or fail to complete and Monday to Friday backups reported as OK. This goes back several weeks. As far as I know, nothing is differently setup for weekends the antivirus and backups are set the same for every day. Gets more and more mysterious. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:51 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Ok, so it's not a swap space issue then... Maybe try using msconfig to stop any of the AVG files running at startup, and see does it run any better when you restart? If you do that, disconnect your internet access temporarily to avoid getting a virus in the interim. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 14:47, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: C:\ 243GB free of 453GB D:\ 282GB free of 454GB backup drive 1.44TB free of 3.TB Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:34 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Svchost.exe is the Windows service host, you need this :) Looks like it's the AVG antivirus acting up. How much free space do you have on the drives? On 9 Oct 2014 14:30, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: The ones generating most entries are: AVGrsa.exe - presume a scan must be running even if I can't find or stop it (scan settings are set to 'basic' for minimal interference when machine is busy) BackupNowEZ - my backup program which I have to use as the external drive is over 2TB so M$ backup won't work, in theory (hah!) this is disabled temporarily - I think! no hard disk activity even though the process is generating a lot of entries. svchost.exe (not sure what this is) monitor.exe (less than the other three) There are lots more processes listed, but very few entries compared to these. Looks like it's the anti-virus but what is it up to since it's on minimum settings and shouldn't be running at this time of day anyway (it's normally set to run overnight and not to run at startup if a scan has been missed) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:54 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Dilwyn Jones wrote: No, SATA drive, with Windows in C: drive part of the hard disk, and everything else in D: Okay, one more. Download and run the Process monitor tool from MS and check if any application is generating lots of entries. This might be a somewhat painful process on a thrashing machine, though. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this
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Yup, both excellent ideas... Running CHKDSK or similar should help see if there is any damage at least. On 9 Oct 2014 16:08, Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk wrote: Judging by the symptoms, you could try starting the PC up in safe mode and see if it is any better... However, I bet the lightning has caused damaged to a sector or two on your main hard disk... http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-vista/check- your-hard-disk-for-errors Rich On 09/10/2014 15:51, Darren Branagh wrote: Wow... that is the weirdest thing I've ever heard... I would suggest backing up everything while it's still running.. the anti virus must have a real foothold on the system... disabling it restored the system to a sort of default status with only one monitor. If booting was so slow with it disabled, it's unlikely to be that at fault.. No idea where to go from here, apart from running a cleaner and maybe a defrag. Very, very mysterious. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 15:43, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: OK, that was a VERY painful experience: 1. My second screen (AOC USB monitor) stopped working after disabling the anti-virus (now works after re-enabling). Absolutely no idea why. Shouldn't be any connection between them. 2. Bootup took ages - I could see the desktop icons redrawing pixel by pixel, not just icon by icon. 3. Windows Live Mail must have lost its index, since it claimed there were no emails. It seems to have rebuilt the index now and all emails present and correct. 4. I disabled the wireless broadband for a while but the endless hard disk activity just continued even when it and the antivirus were off. I had a look at my backup program schedule as well. It says every saturday and sunday daily backup fails to run or fail to complete and Monday to Friday backups reported as OK. This goes back several weeks. As far as I know, nothing is differently setup for weekends the antivirus and backups are set the same for every day. Gets more and more mysterious. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:51 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Ok, so it's not a swap space issue then... Maybe try using msconfig to stop any of the AVG files running at startup, and see does it run any better when you restart? If you do that, disconnect your internet access temporarily to avoid getting a virus in the interim. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 14:47, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: C:\ 243GB free of 453GB D:\ 282GB free of 454GB backup drive 1.44TB free of 3.TB Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:34 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Svchost.exe is the Windows service host, you need this :) Looks like it's the AVG antivirus acting up. How much free space do you have on the drives? On 9 Oct 2014 14:30, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: The ones generating most entries are: AVGrsa.exe - presume a scan must be running even if I can't find or stop it (scan settings are set to 'basic' for minimal interference when machine is busy) BackupNowEZ - my backup program which I have to use as the external drive is over 2TB so M$ backup won't work, in theory (hah!) this is disabled temporarily - I think! no hard disk activity even though the process is generating a lot of entries. svchost.exe (not sure what this is) monitor.exe (less than the other three) There are lots more processes listed, but very few entries compared to these. Looks like it's the anti-virus but what is it up to since it's on minimum settings and shouldn't be running at this time of day anyway (it's normally set to run overnight and not to run at startup if a scan has been missed) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:54 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Dilwyn Jones wrote: No, SATA drive, with Windows in C: drive part of the hard disk, and everything else in D: Okay, one more. Download and run the Process monitor tool from MS and check if any application is generating lots of entries. This might be a somewhat painful process on a thrashing machine, though. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354
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IIRC, this is why I stopped using AVG originally. I switched to Microsoft Security Essentials for a while (don't laugh) and had no problems at all with it taking over the computer. I only switched back after it became a laughing stock in the computer magazines. I have tried other antiviruses but all have their varying degrees of uselessness. This seems to be a common issue with AVG, users saying it slugs their machines. There seems to be two core issues: 1. Even set to 'dynamic' or 'basic' (lowest processor hogging) it really slugs the machine down during a scan. So I set it to run overnight and things like this happen. 2. If the 'scan at startup if scan missed' setting was *ever* set and a scan is missed, there seems to be no way of preventing it running that scan at full priority until complete (that survives a restart), which is what seems to be happening. I have set that not to scan after a missed overnight scan now, but lots of people say that will only take effect after a *successful* overnight scan (despite what AVG claim), so it looks like I can write off getting any real use out of this PC until tomorrow now. Which is bad as I had all day to get work done today but very little time tomorrow. Drat and double drat (as some cartoon character used to say). Backups - don't make me laugh. Windows backup won't work with 3TB drives, NTIbackup seems to fail 2 days out of 7 regularly. I have no idea how complete the backup is because of that and whether it catches up on the weekend missed bits during the week. Modern computers are a total and absolute joke. Everyone keeps saying switch to Linux, but I know people who have and can't get anything working for months, so I refuse to even try that route. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:51 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Wow... that is the weirdest thing I've ever heard... I would suggest backing up everything while it's still running.. the anti virus must have a real foothold on the system... disabling it restored the system to a sort of default status with only one monitor. If booting was so slow with it disabled, it's unlikely to be that at fault.. No idea where to go from here, apart from running a cleaner and maybe a defrag. Very, very mysterious. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 15:43, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: OK, that was a VERY painful experience: 1. My second screen (AOC USB monitor) stopped working after disabling the anti-virus (now works after re-enabling). Absolutely no idea why. Shouldn't be any connection between them. 2. Bootup took ages - I could see the desktop icons redrawing pixel by pixel, not just icon by icon. 3. Windows Live Mail must have lost its index, since it claimed there were no emails. It seems to have rebuilt the index now and all emails present and correct. 4. I disabled the wireless broadband for a while but the endless hard disk activity just continued even when it and the antivirus were off. I had a look at my backup program schedule as well. It says every saturday and sunday daily backup fails to run or fail to complete and Monday to Friday backups reported as OK. This goes back several weeks. As far as I know, nothing is differently setup for weekends the antivirus and backups are set the same for every day. Gets more and more mysterious. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:51 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Ok, so it's not a swap space issue then... Maybe try using msconfig to stop any of the AVG files running at startup, and see does it run any better when you restart? If you do that, disconnect your internet access temporarily to avoid getting a virus in the interim. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 14:47, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: C:\ 243GB free of 453GB D:\ 282GB free of 454GB backup drive 1.44TB free of 3.TB Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:34 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Svchost.exe is the Windows service host, you need this :) Looks like it's the AVG antivirus acting up. How much free space do you have on the drives? On 9 Oct 2014 14:30, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: The ones generating most entries are: AVGrsa.exe - presume a scan must be running even if I can't find or stop it (scan settings are set to 'basic' for minimal interference when machine is busy) BackupNowEZ - my backup program which I have to use as the external drive is over 2TB so M$ backup won't work, in theory (hah!) this is disabled temporarily - I think! no hard disk activity even though the process is generating a lot of entries. svchost.exe (not sure what this is) monitor.exe (less than the other three) There are lots more processes listed, but very few entries compared to
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I ditched using AVG a few years ago too... I use avast and find it the best if the freebie AV programs. I would try Rich's suggestions and see how that goes. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 16:13, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: IIRC, this is why I stopped using AVG originally. I switched to Microsoft Security Essentials for a while (don't laugh) and had no problems at all with it taking over the computer. I only switched back after it became a laughing stock in the computer magazines. I have tried other antiviruses but all have their varying degrees of uselessness. This seems to be a common issue with AVG, users saying it slugs their machines. There seems to be two core issues: 1. Even set to 'dynamic' or 'basic' (lowest processor hogging) it really slugs the machine down during a scan. So I set it to run overnight and things like this happen. 2. If the 'scan at startup if scan missed' setting was *ever* set and a scan is missed, there seems to be no way of preventing it running that scan at full priority until complete (that survives a restart), which is what seems to be happening. I have set that not to scan after a missed overnight scan now, but lots of people say that will only take effect after a *successful* overnight scan (despite what AVG claim), so it looks like I can write off getting any real use out of this PC until tomorrow now. Which is bad as I had all day to get work done today but very little time tomorrow. Drat and double drat (as some cartoon character used to say). Backups - don't make me laugh. Windows backup won't work with 3TB drives, NTIbackup seems to fail 2 days out of 7 regularly. I have no idea how complete the backup is because of that and whether it catches up on the weekend missed bits during the week. Modern computers are a total and absolute joke. Everyone keeps saying switch to Linux, but I know people who have and can't get anything working for months, so I refuse to even try that route. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:51 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Wow... that is the weirdest thing I've ever heard... I would suggest backing up everything while it's still running.. the anti virus must have a real foothold on the system... disabling it restored the system to a sort of default status with only one monitor. If booting was so slow with it disabled, it's unlikely to be that at fault.. No idea where to go from here, apart from running a cleaner and maybe a defrag. Very, very mysterious. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 15:43, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: OK, that was a VERY painful experience: 1. My second screen (AOC USB monitor) stopped working after disabling the anti-virus (now works after re-enabling). Absolutely no idea why. Shouldn't be any connection between them. 2. Bootup took ages - I could see the desktop icons redrawing pixel by pixel, not just icon by icon. 3. Windows Live Mail must have lost its index, since it claimed there were no emails. It seems to have rebuilt the index now and all emails present and correct. 4. I disabled the wireless broadband for a while but the endless hard disk activity just continued even when it and the antivirus were off. I had a look at my backup program schedule as well. It says every saturday and sunday daily backup fails to run or fail to complete and Monday to Friday backups reported as OK. This goes back several weeks. As far as I know, nothing is differently setup for weekends the antivirus and backups are set the same for every day. Gets more and more mysterious. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:51 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Ok, so it's not a swap space issue then... Maybe try using msconfig to stop any of the AVG files running at startup, and see does it run any better when you restart? If you do that, disconnect your internet access temporarily to avoid getting a virus in the interim. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 14:47, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: C:\ 243GB free of 453GB D:\ 282GB free of 454GB backup drive 1.44TB free of 3.TB Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:34 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Svchost.exe is the Windows service host, you need this :) Looks like it's the AVG antivirus acting up. How much free space do you have on the drives? On 9 Oct 2014 14:30, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: The ones generating most entries are: AVGrsa.exe - presume a scan must be running even if I can't find or stop it (scan settings are set to 'basic' for minimal interference when machine is busy) BackupNowEZ - my backup program which I have to use as the external drive is over 2TB so M$ backup won't
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I have free AVG and had found that when it decided to do an update or scan my machine my machine became almost comatose other than just lots of hard drive noise. And of course the bigger the hard drive the longer it took. I went into AVG and turned off all auto updates and scans and now my machine does what I want it to do when I want it done, not the other way around. I still like AVG but not when it wants to take over my machine. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 04:09:24PM +0100, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Backups - don't make me laugh. Windows backup won't work with 3TB drives, NTIbackup seems to fail 2 days out of 7 regularly. I have no idea how complete the backup is because of that and whether it catches up on the weekend missed bits during the week. For backups I use CrashPlan, although its aimed at you paying them to store your backups it actually supports backing up to another machine or HD as well. For me its been running invisibly in the background for almost a year. Graeme ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Dilwyn, If there was a thunderstorm then it's possible that you have a corrupt drive and or RAM. Given the symptoms you see I bet avg is corrupted. Have you been able to run a full chkdsk in safe mode after start up. Get hold of a mem tester too. Linux works. I don't know anyone these days with the problems you describe but regardless try a live dvd to test it out. You never know! But obviously not now, although a Linux live system might help find the problem, strangely enough. Good luck. Cheers, Norm -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity and any auto corrections that are just wrong! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Safe mode - hard disk activity down to a couple of flashes per second. Error checks - scanned both c: and d: drives, no errors. After all that, shut the PC down for a while (as opposed to restarting Windows). Restarted. Back to continuous hard disk activity, unusably sluggish, Windows does work, but it too several minutes to type a sentence or two in this email. Guess that's my contributions to QL Is 30 and any QL activity in the near future out of the window then. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Rich Mellor Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 4:08 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Judging by the symptoms, you could try starting the PC up in safe mode and see if it is any better... However, I bet the lightning has caused damaged to a sector or two on your main hard disk... http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-vista/check-your-hard-disk-for-errors Rich On 09/10/2014 15:51, Darren Branagh wrote: Wow... that is the weirdest thing I've ever heard... I would suggest backing up everything while it's still running.. the anti virus must have a real foothold on the system... disabling it restored the system to a sort of default status with only one monitor. If booting was so slow with it disabled, it's unlikely to be that at fault.. No idea where to go from here, apart from running a cleaner and maybe a defrag. Very, very mysterious. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 15:43, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: OK, that was a VERY painful experience: 1. My second screen (AOC USB monitor) stopped working after disabling the anti-virus (now works after re-enabling). Absolutely no idea why. Shouldn't be any connection between them. 2. Bootup took ages - I could see the desktop icons redrawing pixel by pixel, not just icon by icon. 3. Windows Live Mail must have lost its index, since it claimed there were no emails. It seems to have rebuilt the index now and all emails present and correct. 4. I disabled the wireless broadband for a while but the endless hard disk activity just continued even when it and the antivirus were off. I had a look at my backup program schedule as well. It says every saturday and sunday daily backup fails to run or fail to complete and Monday to Friday backups reported as OK. This goes back several weeks. As far as I know, nothing is differently setup for weekends the antivirus and backups are set the same for every day. Gets more and more mysterious. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:51 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Ok, so it's not a swap space issue then... Maybe try using msconfig to stop any of the AVG files running at startup, and see does it run any better when you restart? If you do that, disconnect your internet access temporarily to avoid getting a virus in the interim. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 14:47, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: C:\ 243GB free of 453GB D:\ 282GB free of 454GB backup drive 1.44TB free of 3.TB Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 2:34 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Svchost.exe is the Windows service host, you need this :) Looks like it's the AVG antivirus acting up. How much free space do you have on the drives? On 9 Oct 2014 14:30, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: The ones generating most entries are: AVGrsa.exe - presume a scan must be running even if I can't find or stop it (scan settings are set to 'basic' for minimal interference when machine is busy) BackupNowEZ - my backup program which I have to use as the external drive is over 2TB so M$ backup won't work, in theory (hah!) this is disabled temporarily - I think! no hard disk activity even though the process is generating a lot of entries. svchost.exe (not sure what this is) monitor.exe (less than the other three) There are lots more processes listed, but very few entries compared to these. Looks like it's the anti-virus but what is it up to since it's on minimum settings and shouldn't be running at this time of day anyway (it's normally set to run overnight and not to run at startup if a scan has been missed) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Marcel Kilgus Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:54 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Dilwyn Jones wrote: No, SATA drive, with Windows in C: drive part of the hard disk, and everything else in D: Okay, one more. Download and run the Process monitor tool from MS and check if any application is generating lots of entries. This might be a somewhat painful process on a thrashing machine, though. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database:
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Anything that involves relying on broadband is an absolute and total no-no round here. Trust me, you'd have to live here to know what it's like. You'd only have to listen to Rich explain about my experiences with our shared Dropbox to know that cloud services are best left untouched around here, despite the Welsh government spending millions (supposedly!) on trying to bring broadband speeds into line with England. I know we are not alone in this, rural areas in England often do no better than here, but I refuse totally to commit to anything that relies on our sometimes-slower-than-dialup or it doesn't work if more than one person in the same street uses it cr*p services. My son (who's in college) moved from a town centre to the outskirts recently and experienced a four-fold drop in quoted maximum broadband speed (which was already a bit pathetic originally as he lived close to his exchange) with no reduction in cost, the real speed drop seems to be subjectively much more than that. He relies on it for his online gaming and so on and moans a lot about how unusable it is now! (at least it works well enough for his college work I suppose). Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Graeme Gregory Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 4:41 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 04:09:24PM +0100, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Backups - don't make me laugh. Windows backup won't work with 3TB drives, NTIbackup seems to fail 2 days out of 7 regularly. I have no idea how complete the backup is because of that and whether it catches up on the weekend missed bits during the week. For backups I use CrashPlan, although its aimed at you paying them to store your backups it actually supports backing up to another machine or HD as well. For me its been running invisibly in the background for almost a year. Graeme ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Ah, while typing an email just now the problems suddenly stopped and the PC seems to have reverted to normal (as normal as a PC ever gets I suppose). No messages of any sort (e.g. updates downloaded, scans finished etc) so I can only presume that a running scan or some such process has ended. There is still a little bit of hard disk activity, but the computer is now back to normal in terms of usability. Weird. Thanks to everyone who tried to help. Proves to me once more, as if proof were needed, how helpful a community we are. Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight
I hope Peter (vanpeebles on QL Forum) doesn’t mind me copying this here – I thought it might be worth a try as I don’t know how many people get Forum messages regarding the Online Chat in time, without logging in and searching for them. Peter says that the online chat for QL Forum members will be manned from 8pm tonight. He points out it’s the last one before the QL Is 30 show. To join in, all Forum members have to do is login to the forum, and click on the ‘Online Chat’ link. Usually there’s anythign from 3 to 6 of us at any one time, would be great if we had a load of people on tonight just before QL Is 30! Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Dilwyn Jones wrote: No messages of any sort (e.g. updates downloaded, scans finished etc) so I can only presume that a running scan or some such process has ended. There is still a little bit of hard disk activity, but the computer is now back to normal in terms of usability. Next guess: thermal problem. Modern CPUs throttle themselves when getting too hot instead of simply dying. Sometimes to the point of being unusable. Checking the fan might be worth it. Anyway, good thing it's working again. Cheers, Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Dilwyn, there are users outside of the usual locations of QL Forum users. Like me, as an example? When it will be? GST time, please? :) --- Enviado do meu Apple IIGS (pq eu sou chique) Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br Meu blog: http://tabajara-labs.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk To: QL-Users list ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:43 PM Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight I hope Peter (vanpeebles on QL Forum) doesn’t mind me copying this here – I thought it might be worth a try as I don’t know how many people get Forum messages regarding the Online Chat in time, without logging in and searching for them. Peter says that the online chat for QL Forum members will be manned from 8pm tonight. He points out it’s the last one before the QL Is 30 show. To join in, all Forum members have to do is login to the forum, and click on the ‘Online Chat’ link. Usually there’s anythign from 3 to 6 of us at any one time, would be great if we had a load of people on tonight just before QL Is 30! Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Well your broadband would be not used if you don't backup to their servers :-) machine-machine or machine-HD is also supported! Graeme On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 05:04:08PM +0100, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Anything that involves relying on broadband is an absolute and total no-no round here. Trust me, you'd have to live here to know what it's like. You'd only have to listen to Rich explain about my experiences with our shared Dropbox to know that cloud services are best left untouched around here, despite the Welsh government spending millions (supposedly!) on trying to bring broadband speeds into line with England. I know we are not alone in this, rural areas in England often do no better than here, but I refuse totally to commit to anything that relies on our sometimes-slower-than-dialup or it doesn't work if more than one person in the same street uses it cr*p services. My son (who's in college) moved from a town centre to the outskirts recently and experienced a four-fold drop in quoted maximum broadband speed (which was already a bit pathetic originally as he lived close to his exchange) with no reduction in cost, the real speed drop seems to be subjectively much more than that. He relies on it for his online gaming and so on and moans a lot about how unusable it is now! (at least it works well enough for his college work I suppose). Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Graeme Gregory Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 4:41 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 04:09:24PM +0100, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Backups - don't make me laugh. Windows backup won't work with 3TB drives, NTIbackup seems to fail 2 days out of 7 regularly. I have no idea how complete the backup is because of that and whether it catches up on the weekend missed bits during the week. For backups I use CrashPlan, although its aimed at you paying them to store your backups it actually supports backing up to another machine or HD as well. For me its been running invisibly in the background for almost a year. Graeme ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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We are actually already online. irc.mibbit.net #qlforum :-) Graeme On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 02:26:18PM -0300, Alexandre Souza wrote: Dilwyn, there are users outside of the usual locations of QL Forum users. Like me, as an example? When it will be? GST time, please? :) --- Enviado do meu Apple IIGS (pq eu sou chique) Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br Meu blog: http://tabajara-labs.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk To: QL-Users list ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:43 PM Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight I hope Peter (vanpeebles on QL Forum) doesn’t mind me copying this here – I thought it might be worth a try as I don’t know how many people get Forum messages regarding the Online Chat in time, without logging in and searching for them. Peter says that the online chat for QL Forum members will be manned from 8pm tonight. He points out it’s the last one before the QL Is 30 show. To join in, all Forum members have to do is login to the forum, and click on the ‘Online Chat’ link. Usually there’s anythign from 3 to 6 of us at any one time, would be great if we had a load of people on tonight just before QL Is 30! Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues
Guess I'm just fed up of trying everything and finding nothing that works. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Graeme Gregory Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 6:35 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Well your broadband would be not used if you don't backup to their servers :-) machine-machine or machine-HD is also supported! Graeme On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 05:04:08PM +0100, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Anything that involves relying on broadband is an absolute and total no-no round here. Trust me, you'd have to live here to know what it's like. You'd only have to listen to Rich explain about my experiences with our shared Dropbox to know that cloud services are best left untouched around here, despite the Welsh government spending millions (supposedly!) on trying to bring broadband speeds into line with England. I know we are not alone in this, rural areas in England often do no better than here, but I refuse totally to commit to anything that relies on our sometimes-slower-than-dialup or it doesn't work if more than one person in the same street uses it cr*p services. My son (who's in college) moved from a town centre to the outskirts recently and experienced a four-fold drop in quoted maximum broadband speed (which was already a bit pathetic originally as he lived close to his exchange) with no reduction in cost, the real speed drop seems to be subjectively much more than that. He relies on it for his online gaming and so on and moans a lot about how unusable it is now! (at least it works well enough for his college work I suppose). Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Graeme Gregory Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 4:41 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 04:09:24PM +0100, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Backups - don't make me laugh. Windows backup won't work with 3TB drives, NTIbackup seems to fail 2 days out of 7 regularly. I have no idea how complete the backup is because of that and whether it catches up on the weekend missed bits during the week. For backups I use CrashPlan, although its aimed at you paying them to store your backups it actually supports backing up to another machine or HD as well. For me its been running invisibly in the background for almost a year. Graeme ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8354 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8355 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight
U.K. is on 'summer time' at the moment which is GMT +1hr (like western Europe I think). So 8pm UK time will be GMT 7pm (19:00 GMT). I'm not too sure about Brazil - like some large countries I think you have more than one time zone there?? Plus I don't know the dates of Summer Time there. The easiest explanation is that Peter will be online in just over 1 hour from now, I think :-) (I think I might have just made it even more complicated, sorry!) Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Alexandre Souza Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 6:26 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight Dilwyn, there are users outside of the usual locations of QL Forum users. Like me, as an example? When it will be? GST time, please? :) --- Enviado do meu Apple IIGS (pq eu sou chique) Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br Meu blog: http://tabajara-labs.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk To: QL-Users list ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 1:43 PM Subject: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight I hope Peter (vanpeebles on QL Forum) doesn’t mind me copying this here – I thought it might be worth a try as I don’t know how many people get Forum messages regarding the Online Chat in time, without logging in and searching for them. Peter says that the online chat for QL Forum members will be manned from 8pm tonight. He points out it’s the last one before the QL Is 30 show. To join in, all Forum members have to do is login to the forum, and click on the ‘Online Chat’ link. Usually there’s anythign from 3 to 6 of us at any one time, would be great if we had a load of people on tonight just before QL Is 30! Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8355 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues
Yay!! Good it's working again. Next suggestion was insert pc into bin, and close lid. Proceed to use QL instead... :-) On 9 Oct 2014 19:02, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: Next guess: thermal problem. Modern CPUs throttle themselves when getting too hot instead of simply dying. Sometimes to the point of being unusable. Checking the fan might be worth it. Possibility I suppose, although this PC is fairly loud and you notice when fan isn't on, plus it's fairly cold here today. Anyway, good thing it's working again. Means I have to do some work now (says he, never happy) Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues
Strange... Could be a hardware issue. Another suggestion is that a software has a problem with some windows components. Try checking the System files using the command prompt: sfc /scannow And it is a very good idea to check the event log entries. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen With compliments Mathias Scheurer Am 09.10.2014 um 18:27 schrieb Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk: Ah, while typing an email just now the problems suddenly stopped and the PC seems to have reverted to normal (as normal as a PC ever gets I suppose). ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues
Too easy, Darren. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 7:34 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Yay!! Good it's working again. Next suggestion was insert pc into bin, and close lid. Proceed to use QL instead... :-) On 9 Oct 2014 19:02, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: Next guess: thermal problem. Modern CPUs throttle themselves when getting too hot instead of simply dying. Sometimes to the point of being unusable. Checking the fan might be worth it. Possibility I suppose, although this PC is fairly loud and you notice when fan isn't on, plus it's fairly cold here today. Anyway, good thing it's working again. Means I have to do some work now (says he, never happy) Dilwyn ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8355 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues
Nice one Dilwyn, good to hear it's going fine again and you didn't have to cross over to the dark side! I agree in the helpful too, I've always found that here. Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues
Tip for the future regarding your drives (i.e. don't trust chkdsk alone) http://www.howtogeek.com/134735/how-to-see-if-your-hard-drive-is-dying/ This worked for me as I was having similar symptoms and chkdsk wasn't reporting anything wrong. My drive was throwing lots of read errors and this was only uncovered when I queried the SMART diagnostics with the tool mentioned in that article. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk wrote: Nice one Dilwyn, good to hear it's going fine again and you didn't have to cross over to the dark side! I agree in the helpful too, I've always found that here. Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues
Dilwyn, which version of Windoze are you using, btw? Vista? Per On 9 October 2014 21:44, Mark Martin storycraf...@gmail.com wrote: Tip for the future regarding your drives (i.e. don't trust chkdsk alone) http://www.howtogeek.com/134735/how-to-see-if-your-hard-drive-is-dying/ This worked for me as I was having similar symptoms and chkdsk wasn't reporting anything wrong. My drive was throwing lots of read errors and this was only uncovered when I queried the SMART diagnostics with the tool mentioned in that article. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk wrote: Nice one Dilwyn, good to hear it's going fine again and you didn't have to cross over to the dark side! I agree in the helpful too, I've always found that here. Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues
Windoze 7 Home Premium 64-bit Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Per Witte Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:07 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Dilwyn, which version of Windoze are you using, btw? Vista? Per On 9 October 2014 21:44, Mark Martin storycraf...@gmail.com wrote: Tip for the future regarding your drives (i.e. don't trust chkdsk alone) http://www.howtogeek.com/134735/how-to-see-if-your-hard-drive-is-dying/ This worked for me as I was having similar symptoms and chkdsk wasn't reporting anything wrong. My drive was throwing lots of read errors and this was only uncovered when I queried the SMART diagnostics with the tool mentioned in that article. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk wrote: Nice one Dilwyn, good to hear it's going fine again and you didn't have to cross over to the dark side! I agree in the helpful too, I've always found that here. Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4040/8355 - Release Date: 10/09/14 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
