Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: Any idea what else might be causing the continuous hard disk activity slugging the PC to an almost unusable crawl? Nothing identifiable in the lists shown in Task Manager for example. Check how much RAM Windows reports and compare it to how much it's supposed to have.

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Kenn Van Hauen
Sorry to hear the bad news. I have no suggestions to how you resolve the PC problem but given the urgency, if you have web access and your netbook supports, then I recommend using Prezi (prezi.com) to complete the presentation. Hopefully when you then have the advantage of time, you'll be able

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Darren Branagh
Yup.. as Marcel says. Try looking under Windows error reporting too if you run an msinfo to file. I would check how much free space you have on your hard drive too, but I'm in agreement with Marcel. Either the RAM has got damaged, or the Windows swap file or HDD is to blame. Darren. Sent from

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
3GB physical RAM installed, task manager says: Total 3037 Cached 979 Available 930 Free10 Processes 94 - some known (QPC, Dropbox, Windows Live Mail, AVG, NTI backup etc) unable to identify some of them from the meaningless names, some I know are essential Windows services Dilwyn

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: 3GB physical RAM installed, task manager says: Total 3037 Cached 979 Available 930 Free10 Was a long shot, but this sounds legit. Does the system still use IDE drives? When, for some reason, the error rate of a device goes up the IDE controllers used to switch from DMA

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
No, SATA drive, with Windows in C: drive part of the hard disk, and everything else in D: There are two external backup drives, but no lights flashing on those. Long shot, I looked at the Indexing service, that says the indexing is complete and it's only indexing D: drive plus the essentials

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: No, SATA drive, with Windows in C: drive part of the hard disk, and everything else in D: Okay, one more. Download and run the Process monitor tool from MS and check if any application is generating lots of entries. This might be a somewhat painful process on a thrashing

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
The ones generating most entries are: AVGrsa.exe - presume a scan must be running even if I can't find or stop it (scan settings are set to 'basic' for minimal interference when machine is busy) BackupNowEZ - my backup program which I have to use as the external drive is over 2TB so M$

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Darren Branagh
Svchost.exe is the Windows service host, you need this :) Looks like it's the AVG antivirus acting up. How much free space do you have on the drives? On 9 Oct 2014 14:30, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: The ones generating most entries are: AVGrsa.exe - presume a scan must be

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Darren Branagh
Ok, so it's not a swap space issue then... Maybe try using msconfig to stop any of the AVG files running at startup, and see does it run any better when you restart? If you do that, disconnect your internet access temporarily to avoid getting a virus in the interim. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 14:47,

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Darren Branagh
Wow... that is the weirdest thing I've ever heard... I would suggest backing up everything while it's still running.. the anti virus must have a real foothold on the system... disabling it restored the system to a sort of default status with only one monitor. If booting was so slow with it

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Rich Mellor
Judging by the symptoms, you could try starting the PC up in safe mode and see if it is any better... However, I bet the lightning has caused damaged to a sector or two on your main hard disk... http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows-vista/check-your-hard-disk-for-errors Rich On

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Darren Branagh
Yup, both excellent ideas... Running CHKDSK or similar should help see if there is any damage at least. On 9 Oct 2014 16:08, Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk wrote: Judging by the symptoms, you could try starting the PC up in safe mode and see if it is any better... However, I bet the

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
IIRC, this is why I stopped using AVG originally. I switched to Microsoft Security Essentials for a while (don't laugh) and had no problems at all with it taking over the computer. I only switched back after it became a laughing stock in the computer magazines. I have tried other antiviruses

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Darren Branagh
I ditched using AVG a few years ago too... I use avast and find it the best if the freebie AV programs. I would try Rich's suggestions and see how that goes. Darren. On 9 Oct 2014 16:13, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: IIRC, this is why I stopped using AVG originally. I

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Rod H
I have free AVG and had found that when it decided to do an update or scan my machine my machine became almost comatose other than just lots of hard drive noise. And of course the bigger the hard drive the longer it took. I went into AVG and turned off all auto updates and scans and now my

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 04:09:24PM +0100, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Backups - don't make me laugh. Windows backup won't work with 3TB drives, NTIbackup seems to fail 2 days out of 7 regularly. I have no idea how complete the backup is because of that and whether it catches up on the weekend missed

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Norman Dunbar
Dilwyn, If there was a thunderstorm then it's possible that you have a corrupt drive and or RAM. Given the symptoms you see I bet avg is corrupted. Have you been able to run a full chkdsk in safe mode after start up. Get hold of a mem tester too. Linux works. I don't know anyone these days

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Safe mode - hard disk activity down to a couple of flashes per second. Error checks - scanned both c: and d: drives, no errors. After all that, shut the PC down for a while (as opposed to restarting Windows). Restarted. Back to continuous hard disk activity, unusably sluggish, Windows does

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Anything that involves relying on broadband is an absolute and total no-no round here. Trust me, you'd have to live here to know what it's like. You'd only have to listen to Rich explain about my experiences with our shared Dropbox to know that cloud services are best left untouched around

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Ah, while typing an email just now the problems suddenly stopped and the PC seems to have reverted to normal (as normal as a PC ever gets I suppose). No messages of any sort (e.g. updates downloaded, scans finished etc) so I can only presume that a running scan or some such process has ended.

[Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I hope Peter (vanpeebles on QL Forum) doesn’t mind me copying this here – I thought it might be worth a try as I don’t know how many people get Forum messages regarding the Online Chat in time, without logging in and searching for them. Peter says that the online chat for QL Forum members will

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: No messages of any sort (e.g. updates downloaded, scans finished etc) so I can only presume that a running scan or some such process has ended. There is still a little bit of hard disk activity, but the computer is now back to normal in terms of usability. Next guess:

Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight

2014-10-09 Thread Alexandre Souza
Dilwyn, there are users outside of the usual locations of QL Forum users. Like me, as an example? When it will be? GST time, please? :) --- Enviado do meu Apple IIGS (pq eu sou chique) Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br Meu blog: http://tabajara-labs.blogspot.com - Original

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Graeme Gregory
Well your broadband would be not used if you don't backup to their servers :-) machine-machine or machine-HD is also supported! Graeme On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 05:04:08PM +0100, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Anything that involves relying on broadband is an absolute and total no-no round here. Trust me,

Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight

2014-10-09 Thread Graeme Gregory
We are actually already online. irc.mibbit.net #qlforum :-) Graeme On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 02:26:18PM -0300, Alexandre Souza wrote: Dilwyn, there are users outside of the usual locations of QL Forum users. Like me, as an example? When it will be? GST time, please? :) ---

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Guess I'm just fed up of trying everything and finding nothing that works. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Graeme Gregory Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 6:35 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Well your broadband would be not used if you don't backup to

Re: [Ql-Users] QL Forum online chat tonight

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
U.K. is on 'summer time' at the moment which is GMT +1hr (like western Europe I think). So 8pm UK time will be GMT 7pm (19:00 GMT). I'm not too sure about Brazil - like some large countries I think you have more than one time zone there?? Plus I don't know the dates of Summer Time there.

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Darren Branagh
Yay!! Good it's working again. Next suggestion was insert pc into bin, and close lid. Proceed to use QL instead... :-) On 9 Oct 2014 19:02, Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk wrote: Next guess: thermal problem. Modern CPUs throttle themselves when getting too hot instead of simply

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Mathias Scheurer
Strange... Could be a hardware issue. Another suggestion is that a software has a problem with some windows components. Try checking the System files using the command prompt: sfc /scannow And it is a very good idea to check the event log entries. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen With

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Too easy, Darren. Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Darren Branagh Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 7:34 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Yay!! Good it's working again. Next suggestion was insert pc into bin, and close lid. Proceed to use QL instead... :-) On

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Norman Dunbar
Nice one Dilwyn, good to hear it's going fine again and you didn't have to cross over to the dark side! I agree in the helpful too, I've always found that here. Cheers, Norm. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Mark Martin
Tip for the future regarding your drives (i.e. don't trust chkdsk alone) http://www.howtogeek.com/134735/how-to-see-if-your-hard-drive-is-dying/ This worked for me as I was having similar symptoms and chkdsk wasn't reporting anything wrong. My drive was throwing lots of read errors and this was

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Per Witte
Dilwyn, which version of Windoze are you using, btw? Vista? Per On 9 October 2014 21:44, Mark Martin storycraf...@gmail.com wrote: Tip for the future regarding your drives (i.e. don't trust chkdsk alone) http://www.howtogeek.com/134735/how-to-see-if-your-hard-drive-is-dying/ This worked

Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues

2014-10-09 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Windoze 7 Home Premium 64-bit Dilwyn -Original Message- From: Per Witte Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:07 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] PC issues Dilwyn, which version of Windoze are you using, btw? Vista? Per On 9 October 2014 21:44, Mark Martin