[Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread Adrian Ives
I know I've seen this somewhere but, as usual, when you really want something it refuses to be found! I'm looking for a function to use in S*BASIC that will tell me if the display driver is capable of providing resolutions greater than the QL's mode 4 8 defaults - it would be enough just to

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread tobias.froesc...@t-online.de
] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 15:01:55 +0100 From: Adrian Ives adr...@acanthis.co.uk To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com I know I've seen this somewhere but, as usual, when you really want something it refuses to be found! I'm looking

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread gdgqler
On 28 Feb 2011, at 14:01, Adrian Ives wrote: I know I've seen this somewhere but, as usual, when you really want something it refuses to be found! I'm looking for a function to use in S*BASIC that will tell me if the display driver is capable of providing resolutions greater than the

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread Adrian Ives
] On Behalf Of tobias.froesc...@t-online.de Sent: 28 February 2011 14:50 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard Adrian, there is (I think) not a single function that allows to retrieve this information, but some strong hints

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread Adrian Ives
That's also a good way of doing it. Thanks, George. -Original Message- From: ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of gdgqler Sent: 28 February 2011 15:09 To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread gdgqler
On 28 Feb 2011, at 15:42, Marcel Kilgus wrote: gdgqler wrote: I'm looking for a function to use in S*BASIC that will tell me if the display driver is capable of providing resolutions greater than the QL's mode 4 8 defaults - it would be enough just to know if the display driver is GD2 or

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread Marcel Kilgus
gdgqler wrote: IOP.FLIM is a good way of finding screen limits. It is slightly annoying if it is not available. I have programs which find the maximum size by trial and error if IOP.FLIM is not there. In which cases is IOP.FLIM not available and the resolution not 512x256? Marcel

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread tobias.froesc...@t-online.de
Marcel, see my other post. Cheers, Tobias -Original-Nachricht- Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 16:52:53 +0100 From: Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com gdgqler wrote: IOP.FLIM

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread gdgqler
On 28 Feb 2011, at 15:52, Marcel Kilgus wrote: gdgqler wrote: IOP.FLIM is a good way of finding screen limits. It is slightly annoying if it is not available. I have programs which find the maximum size by trial and error if IOP.FLIM is not there. In which cases is IOP.FLIM not available

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread Marcel Kilgus
tobias.froesc...@t-online.de wrote: -- I think the PE was necessary for higher resolutions, so you can test -- for that first. Afterwards IOP.FLIM should be able to find the screen -- limits. Not quite. UQLX does offer higher resolutions without PE (sure you can run PE on top of it.) From

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread Marcel Kilgus
gdgqler wrote: There must have been some, otherwise I would certainly not have gone to the trouble of testing different sizes! Nor, i suspect, would Mark Knight. I'm genuinely curious and don't pretend that I know the whole truth. But except the SMSQ for QXL fringe case I cannot currently

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread tobias.froesc...@t-online.de
) The citation you made refers to the run-time patch mechanism of uqlx - If you load PE, it's being patched by uqlx, if you don't - it's just not there Cheers, Tobias -Original-Nachricht- Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard Date: Mon, 28

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread tobias.froesc...@t-online.de
Marcel, George, my QXL originally came with SMS (neither 2 nor Q attached to it). This definitely had no PE. (Today it's on newest SMSQ/E, naturally) Cheers, Tobias -Original-Nachricht- Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard Date: Mon

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread tobias.froesc...@t-online.de
expose Minerva's second screen for reasons unknown to me. Cheers, Tobias -Original-Nachricht- Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:37:06 +0100 From: Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread tobias.froesc...@t-online.de
Marcel, -- include any BASIC language after all. It was pre-release software and -- should be ignored for any new development, I think. That's what I did in the 90ies (I mean ignore). You couldn't do much else with it. Cheers Tobias ___

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread Marcel Kilgus
tobias.froesc...@t-online.de wrote: Marcel, sorry to contradict again ;-) : uqlx can run a JS ROM in 800x600 without PE quite well. This is right out of the uQLx source code: if (isMinerva) { [...] else /* JS doesn't handle big screen */ { bsfb: qlscreen.linel=128;

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread tobias.froesc...@t-online.de
Marcel, you're right, tricked myself: when started with the big screen enabled, it seems that uqlx loads the Minerva ROM, regardless of what ROM you might have configured in the config file. Cheers, Tobias -Original-Nachricht- Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether

Re: [Ql-Users] Help: Function to tell whether display is better than QL standard

2011-02-28 Thread ql
Am 28.02.2011 um 17:45 schrieb Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net: It began life as SMSQ, a QDOS-compatible version of SMS2 intended for the Miracle Systems QXL emulator card But yes, it did not include the PE, that was only the case of the /E versions. But I still think this is a fringe