RE: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair working for the French??

2002-04-09 Thread Claude Mourier 00
PROTECTED]Objet: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair working for the French??I know that Sir Clive's skills lay in other places other than marketing, but has he sold out to the french I wonder??Just that I saw a TV advert last night for a Citreon C5 :-ORich Mellor RWAP Software7 Common Road

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair working for the French??

2002-04-09 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 9 Apr 2002 at 11:04:48, ZN wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 09/04/02 at 14:31 Claude Mourier 00 wrote: Clive Sinclair working for the French?? I know that Sir Clive's skills lay in other places other than marketing, but has he sold out to the french I wonder?? Just that I saw a

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair working for the French??

2002-04-09 Thread P Witte
ZN writes: computing in a better way, with Citroen you get to preach that there are better ways to drive around on 4 (and actually, even 3 - some will work without one rear) wheels! Dont I know! Once, driving with a friend in his ancient Citroen D model in Africa somewhere, I saw this

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-22 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes B. Wrong. It refers to a bigger microdrive like device, with magnetic tape. The same infinite tape trick as in microdrive, no rewind needed. It was the alternative to floppy. (or the evolution of classical tape). ZN wrote:- Bzzz -

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-19 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 17 Oct 2001, at 20:07, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Also, do not forget that the first microdrives were intended to be only the start of a whole range of innovative new ways for mass storage. Clive subsequently 'lost' a lot of his 'millions' investing in plant and research to produce new devices

RE: Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-19 Thread Ian . Pine
be huge, and that is probably what ate most of his investment in plant - the production of flawless silicon wafers. Ian. -Original Message- From: wlenerz Sent: 19 October 2001 14:29 To: ql-users Cc: wlenerz Subject: Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair On 17 Oct 2001, at 20:07, Malcolm

Re: Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-19 Thread Jerome Grimbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] makes some magical things to make me read } Wafer memory... } Wafer Scale Integration I believe he referred to it as at the time. B. Wrong. It refers to a bigger microdrive like device, with magnetic tape. The same infinite tape trick as in microdrive, no rewind needed.

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-19 Thread ZN
Even with current low cost silicon, there is still a high rejection rate. That, as was said , cannot be afforded with a bigger chip. Actually, bigger chips increase the number of rejects incredibly. The reason is very simple: the basic idea behind chips in most cases relies on all chip

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-19 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article 3BD046D3.18653.10B3805@localhost, Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On 17 Oct 2001, at 20:07, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Also, do not forget that the first microdrives were intended to be only the start of a whole range of innovative new ways for mass storage. Clive subsequently

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-19 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], ZN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Big snip :-) The wafer technology was of course based on chip technology and design and testing procedures of the time. Today it would actually be easyer to produce them as things like mid-process testing, late stage metalization,

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-19 Thread ZN
On 10/19/01 at 8:39 PM Malcolm Cadman wrote: The wafer technology was of course based on chip technology and design and testing procedures of the time. Today it would actually be easyer to produce them... Very interesting, Nasta. As you say the technology is always moving on, and what was

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-19 Thread Marcel Kilgus
ZN wrote: I wonder what happened to Sinclair's asynchronous microprocessor. That would have been a great project too, especially since some people at the Frauenhoffer isntitute (IIRC) developed it quite far, using self-handshake logic instead of clocked logic. The University of Manchester

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-18 Thread Dilwyn Jones
May be worth following up just what the QL2 was going to be (probably like a Thor). I was sent a copy of the Tyche Rom which is partly, but not fully compatible, with QL ROMs. Can't remember the name of the company embedded in the code though - I think it was Sirius Cybernetics. The ROM itself

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-17 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 16 Oct 2001, at 21:27, Tony Firshman wrote: They changed to the crummy one that goes brittle probably to save 20p. Yup, that's the typical QL story - do it el cheapo! wolfgang - www.wlenerz.com

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-17 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Roy Wood wrote: I was told that, just before the QL was due for release, someone showed Sir Clive one of the 'new' 3.5 drives and said it would fit into the same space as the microdrives. He is reported to have said 'That will never catch on' Last year I saw a QL with a 3.5 inch disk drive in

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-17 Thread Robert Newson
Certainly apocryphal (TP spell checker - not me) as the 3.5 drives then were much too high. Suitable drives did not appear for years. but a nice story. The same story must have happened over the years - wheel, spinning jenny, bicycle, digital watch, mobile phone, head

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-17 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes A floppy disk drive would certainly have made it more successful - if people would have been prepared to pay for it. Around 1/3 to 2/3 again added to the

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-17 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 00ae01c1570c$3550db00$c7075cc3@default, Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Roy Wood wrote: I was told that, just before the QL was due for release, someone showed Sir Clive one of the 'new' 3.5 drives and said it would fit into the same space as the microdrives. He is reported to

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-17 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tarquin Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Malcolm Cadman wrote: Peter Graf wrote: Tony wrote: Microdrives especially killed the QL. He tried to push the speed up to 100k - and they never worked reliably. Unfortunately, the 3.5 disks at the time were simply too large

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair innovations (and errors)

2001-10-17 Thread Arnould Nazarian
: I will try and check this out sometime, as I still know the industrial : designer who worked on the QL project for Sinclair. : : -- : Malcolm Cadman About innovations at Sinclair Research, TT once told me this interesting story. They wanted to develop a pointing device at the beginning,

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-17 Thread Q Branch
This is probably an apocraphal (is this spelled right Geoff ?) story but I like it. ---^ Apocryphal (Apo = From, Crypto/Crypho = Hidden ;-) Elementary Dr. Wood :-) Phoebus I think it was the 'crap' element that attracted me to that spelling. As in From Crap Hal ! but

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-16 Thread Peter Graf
Tony wrote: Microdrives especially killed the QL. He tried to push the speed up to 100k - and they never worked reliably. Unfortunately, the 3.5 disks at the time were simply too large and power hungry. If only... ..the QL would have been more successful than the Macintosh, there'd be

RE: Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-16 Thread Ian . Pine
October 2001 12:02 To: ql-users Cc: pgraf Subject: Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair Tony wrote: Microdrives especially killed the QL. He tried to push the speed up to 100k - and they never worked reliably. Unfortunately, the 3.5 disks at the time were simply too large and power hungry

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-16 Thread Tony Firshman
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001 at 14:11:12, ZN wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 10/16/01 at 4:59 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..the QL would have been more successful than the Macintosh, there'd be a million active QL users, and Motorola would be producing 3rd generation 850 MHz 68060 CPU's ;-)

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-16 Thread Tarquin Mills
..the QL would have been more successful than the Macintosh, there'd be a million active QL users, and Motorola would be producing 3rd generation 850 MHz 68060 CPU's ;-) And keyboard membranes wouldn't be as rare as hens' teeth. When I was talking to Syd Humphreys, he said that QLEA

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-16 Thread Tarquin Mills
Malcolm Cadman wrote: Peter Graf wrote: Tony wrote: Microdrives especially killed the QL. He tried to push the speed up to 100k - and they never worked reliably. Unfortunately, the 3.5 disks at the time were simply too large and power hungry. If only... ..the QL would have been more

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-16 Thread Q Branch
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes A floppy disk drive would certainly have made it more successful - if people would have been prepared to pay for it. Around 1/3 to 2/3 again added to the selling price ? I was told that, just before the QL was due for

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair

2001-10-16 Thread Phoebus Dokos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At 11:47 ìì 16/10/2001 +0100, you wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes A floppy disk drive would certainly have made it more successful - if people would have been prepared to pay for it. Around 1/3 to 2/3

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair (formerly QPC2)

2001-10-15 Thread Geoff Wicks
- Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2 SINCLAIR RESEARCH LIMITED 1A Spring Gardens, TRAFALGAR SQUARE, LONDON, SW1AA 2BB www.sinclair-research.co.uk Why not send a copy of QL Toady? If he responds it would be interesting to see

Re: [ql-users] Clive Sinclair (formerly QPC2)

2001-10-15 Thread Tony Firshman
On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 at 19:37:43, Geoff Wicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC2 SINCLAIR RESEARCH LIMITED 1A Spring Gardens, TRAFALGAR SQUARE, LONDON, SW1AA 2BB www.sinclair-research.co.uk