Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-09 Thread dndsystems1
- Original Message - From: Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep On 9 Nov 2002, at 2:48, dndsystems1 wrote: (...) Yes I wanted a private corrispondnce with him without

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-08 Thread Dilwyn Jones
More in sorrow. I accept the blame for writing QDOS and the consequences, but what have Wolgang Lenerz, Jochen Merz and others done to merit the treatment they are getting - they deserve to keep their fingers. Tony Tebby Thanks for stepping in on this matter, Tony, and it is good to know

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-08 Thread Jochen Merz
Tony's statements have backed up many of the things that we have been saying over the last few months and should really blow the cobwebs away from those who doubted. Still, given the way some people seem to react, I suppose there will be those who do not believe him either. Well, looking at

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-08 Thread Jochen Merz
Hi Dave, A trader has the sdame right to sell an item they own as any private individual. Indeed. Provided, he actually owns it at that time. But nobody questioned all this... :-) Jochen

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-08 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dave P wrote: Well, that's illegal in every European country. Once someone owns a license to software, they're free to sell it to whomsoever they wish under the first sale doctrine. I don't think anybody suggested that this is not the case. Marcel

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-08 Thread Dave P
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Dave P wrote: Well, that's illegal in every European country. Once someone owns a license to software, they're free to sell it to whomsoever they wish under the first sale doctrine. I don't think anybody suggested that this is not the case.

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-08 Thread Phoebus Dokos
??? 8/11/2002 12:15:40 ??, ?/? Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Jochen Merz wrote: A trader has the same right to sell an item they own as any private individual. Indeed. Provided, he actually owns it at that time. But nobody questioned all this... :-) Not even

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep -a deep groan

2002-11-08 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 8 Nov 2002, at 17:15, Dave P wrote: (...) Now that we've had two or three different problems with the license, and Wolfgang has given various reassurances (which has been a positive experience, Wolfgang!), Thanks, but this begs the question - have I been acting in accordance with

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-08 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 8 Nov 2002, at 16:00, Dave P wrote: Well, that's illegal in every European country. Once someone owns a license to software, they're free to sell it to whomsoever they wish under the first sale doctrine. You cannot restrict someone's right to sell something they own, even by license,

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep -a deep groan

2002-11-08 Thread Dave P
On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: Thanks, but this begs the question - have I been acting in accordance with these reassurances? Put it this way; every time an issue is raised, you have worked diligently to resolve it. Sometimes I question your methods, but your results are usually

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-08 Thread dndsystems1
- Original Message - From: Roy Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep In message 005201c2864a$e385e4e0$0d5c933e@tony, TonyTebby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes BIG SNIP Confidential in as much

[ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-07 Thread TonyTebby
While walking on the fells, I came across a sheep with its horns entangled in a wire fence. With great difficulty I managed to free it and, by way of reward for saving it from a certain, lingering death, it tried to take my fingers off. More about mad sheep and fingers later. This note is

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-07 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Tony Tebby wrote: (rest of message clipped). I just hope that this put some doubts to rest. And again I appeal to DD - let's get on with it, correct the situation, it isn't too late yet. Wolfgang - www.wlenerz.com

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-07 Thread Marcel Kilgus
TonyTebby wrote: [much] Thanks a lot for clarifying the issue. I think this was really necessary. May common sense return to the land of the sheep, Marcel

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-07 Thread Dave P
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Marcel Kilgus wrote: May common sense return to the land of the sheep, Baa! I don't want common sense. I want extraordinary sense! Yes, TT surely clarified the situation. I read it in my mind's ear in a God-like voice. I was waiting for him to go to Eindhoven and jump

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-07 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dave P wrote: I don't want common sense. I want extraordinary sense! I'd already be satisfied with common sense after the mails within the last few days. Makes me stop wanting to bang my head against the wall. I was waiting for him to go to Eindhoven and jump up and down on stage screaming

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-07 Thread P Witte
TonyTebby writes: Well, I think this sorts the sheep from the goats ;) Id like to take this opportunity to thank Tony Tebby, and also many others, some of whom he has mentioned in his mail, for all you have done for QL-users! Id like to assure you that your ingenuity, time and effort has given

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-07 Thread Dave P
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Marcel Kilgus wrote: I was waiting for him to go to Eindhoven and jump up and down on stage screaming Developers! Developers! Developers! :o) Is this some obscure reference I don't get? A joke? Or just extraordinary sense? Some top guy at Microsoft did this on stage

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-07 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dave P wrote: Some top guy at Microsoft did this on stage at a developers conference, and came off sounding a bit loony! Ah, the ape. I actually saw that one. Nah. I'm more famous to more people than TT, and I really crave the anonymity he has. Never be in the music business :/ Right. I

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-07 Thread Phoebus Dokos
??? 7/11/2002 2:26:05 ??, ?/? Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] ??: Quick, somebody give that man some crayons! Nah he won't like them unless they have an ARM processor and embedded Linux in them ;-) Phoebus

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-07 Thread dndsystems1
- Original Message - From: TonyTebby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:45 AM Subject: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep snip You sent this to the Supanet address so it is auto deleted, there is the fault, see other email. I have never seen your

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-07 Thread Roy Wood
In message 005201c2864a$e385e4e0$0d5c933e@tony, TonyTebby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes BIG SNIP   Confidential in as much as you will not pass information on to any other interested party, this way I can speak freely and as I want. Don't tell Wolfgang, Marcel, Jochen etc. etc. On my part I must tell

Re: [ql-users] Pirates and mad sheep

2002-11-07 Thread P Witte
Dave P writes: Of course, now he's going to get a bunch of emails from his devotees telling him how wonderful he is. I really should get started on mine, so I have to go now. I already sent mine. Looking forward to read yours ;) Per