Now that (if I remember well) PROWess is open source what is the status of DataDesign
? Is the code available ?
I wait for years for some upgrade of the products and think SMSQ needs a high quality
standard database engine (some one preparded to port My SQL ?)
Claude
-Message
Brian,
I wasn't being sarcastic at all, nor elitist. I thought the last DP
released version was generally available as PD - I hadn't looked for it, as
I was one of those who bought the entire DP collection of programs from
freddy for about 100 quid just prior to DP closing down - so I already
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote:
I wait for years for some upgrade of the products and think SMSQ
needs a high quality standard database engine (some one preparded to
port My SQL ?)
I don't think so! My experience when talking with people about SuQcess,
DBAS
and working with a database on the QL
In a message dated 08/10/2004 10:34:56 GMT Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The problem as I said, is that the new version will not filter a database
past the first stage. applying further filters simply applies a filter where
nothing is selected. On inspection of the filter
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 at 09:35:44, wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Brian,
I wasn't being sarcastic at all, nor elitist. I thought the last DP
released version was generally available as PD - I hadn't looked for it, as
I was one of those who bought the entire DP collection of programs from
Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:54:19 +0100,() [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/wrote:
Oh... Sorry!!
I had thought it was available, just the hi-res screen version that
wasn't.
Dilwyn - is it in your PD library??
If it isn't I would be glad to provide it :-)
Phoebus
_
I bet you would
I have it
John Sadler wrote:-
Copyright was introduced so that the author could get a reasonable
recompense for his/hers efforts.
Of course when the lawyers have finished it all becomes unreasonable!
However that does not change the moral ideas behind copyright.
It seems totally unreasonable to me that
Dear QLers
just a quick reminder
QL2004
CELEBRATION OF 20th ANNIVERSARY OF THE SINCLAIR QL
COMPUTER
in Eindhoven/Netherlands on October 16th 2004
This meeting is entirely dedicated to the QL and
SMSQ/E (but of course QDOS, Minerva, SMS2 and uQLx
etc. are also
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 at 11:32:06, wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
snip
I recall when he got that Nissan 300ZX Turbo Sports car - bought entirely
with DP proceeds.
Indeed.
Did he tell you the story?
There were plenty of similar Nissans about with a slightly different
names. This one was top of
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 at 12:43:37, wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
That was Sjef with mis-configured attribution!
Dear QLers
just a quick reminder
QL2004
CELEBRATION OF 20th ANNIVERSARY OF THE SINCLAIR QL
COMPUTER
in Eindhoven/Netherlands on October 16th 2004
- Original Message -
From: Brian Kemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection
Im not quite sure if that was a sarcastic aside?? I thought it was a
genuine
observation. It seems to me that the QL WORLD is getting too elitist and
forgetting the bottom of the heap, you
Tony wrote:-
Did he tell you the story?
There were plenty of similar Nissans about with a slightly different
names. This one was top of the range and worth, at the time £22,000. He
got it for £17,000 because the salesman thought it was the cheaper
model.
Were you there when he did wheelies
On 8 Oct 2004 at 11:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moral copyright is all very well, until someone gets their solicitor onto
you. Just because you're giving it away for free doesnt make it right.
Mopral copyright is not very well - simply because what is moral to me isn't
to you, or
On 8 Oct 2004 at 5:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(...)
There are also quite a few problems with the machine code extensions
provided by Datadesign, so far as I recall..
Like what?
DD is used by me every (work)day and has been for ages. OK, so I use a house
made prog to access the
On 8 Oct 2004 at 11:25, Wolfgang Uhlig wrote:
(...)
So porting MySQL might be a matter of personal challenge, but I can't see
a real
need.
Seconded. There are more important issues...
Wolfgang
www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com
On 8 Oct 2004 at 10:30, Claude Mourier 00 wrote:
Now that (if I remember well) PROWess is open source what is the status of
DataDesign ?
I frankly don't know (Joachim??), perhaps someone could check on his website?
Is the code available ?
I do have a copy of the code.
I wait for years
On 8 Oct 2004 at 8:36, Brian Kemmett wrote:
The problem as I said, is that the new version will not filter a database
past the first stage. applying further filters simply applies a filter where
nothing is selected. On inspection of the filter screen from level 2 onwards
just shows 'MEMO',
On 7 Oct 2004 at 21:12, gwicks wrote:
Brian I can feel your frustration, but I not sure what you are talking about
is elitism. I think it is just plain, damned inefficiency and muddle.
Well, I do understand that those people who have given up the QL World just
couldn't be bothered anymore.
On Thu, 7 Oct 2004 at 21:12:51, gwicks wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
- Original Message -
From: Brian Kemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection
Im not quite sure if that was a sarcastic aside?? I thought it was a
genuine
observation. It seems to me that the QL
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 at 13:39:55, wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Tony wrote:-
Did he tell you the story?
There were plenty of similar Nissans about with a slightly different
names. This one was top of the range and worth, at the time £22,000. He
got it for £17,000 because the salesman
Tony wrote:-
Brian I can feel your frustration, but I not sure what you are talking
about
is elitism. I think it is just plain, damned inefficiency and muddle. Put
another way the one thing you should never do in this life is to ask any
QL-er to run a piss up in a brewery.
Darren runs a very
Thanks for the advice Wolfgang. I am using the supplied front end. I sent
for it from Roy Wood at Qbranch when I saw it advertised in the last issue
of QLToday.
Its advertised a high colour upgrade and the front end is version 4.12,
whilst the engine is still v3.14. I have returned to using my
Darren, Just for the record, I also purchased Perfection (v3.10) from DP
when it was released, and I still use it quite heavily. It is easy to use
and fast. I have got very used to it, but with a high resolution display it
isn't as it should be.. That is why I made my enquiry about its
On 8 Oct 2004 at 15:31, Brian Kemmett wrote:
(...)
Its advertised a high colour upgrade and the front end is version 4.12,
whilst the engine is still v3.14. I have returned to using my old version
front end (v4.07) which works perfectly OK. I know it must be the front end
at fault because
On 8 Oct 2004 at 9:27, David Gilham wrote:
this is a test please ignore
done.
grin
Wolfgang
www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com
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I seem to have problems posting to the list but here is my understanding of the
Perfection situation. I made an agreement with Freddy Vaccha aka digital precison to
upgrade perfection and possibly to release it as freeware. I have made it work with
larger screens and possibly on the ql emulator
On 8 Oct 2004 at 9:44, David Gilham wrote:
(...)
. For what its worth Perfection has not been released as
freeware or public domain and I would need permission from Freddy Vaccha
to relase the binary let alone the sources to the general QL community.
Hmm, Darren stated:
Freddy gave
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Kemmett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Darren, Just for the record, I also purchased Perfection (v3.10) from
DP when it was released, and I still use it quite heavily. It is easy
to use and fast. I have got very used to it, but with a high resolution
display it
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Brian,
I wasn't being sarcastic at all, nor elitist. I thought the last DP
released version was generally available as PD - I hadn't looked for it, as
I was one of those who bought the entire DP collection of programs from
freddy for about
gwicks wrote:
A more recent case is EasyPtr. You cannot use this with the new colours.
I just came off the phone with Albin. In the course of the
conversation we recognised that we would have met tomorrow anyway at a
wedding of a mutual friend, so I will have some time to talk to him
and sort
Were you there when he did wheelies around a car park after a QL
show -
Leyland I think - soon after he got the car?
I remember wheelies around the Leyland car park - it was same night
that I got a flat battery in my old Ford Crapi (as Freddy used to call
it).
I think it might have been the same
On 8 Oct 2004 at 11:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Moral copyright is all very well, until someone gets their
solicitor onto
you. Just because you're giving it away for free doesnt make
it right.
Mopral copyright is not very well - simply because what is moral to
me isn't
to you, or
Darren runs a very good piss-up (sorry QL show) form time to time
(8-)#
^
|
---
Not much of that there after all the dark stuff from Mr G. in
I couldn't manage one this year - as my son took priority!! I only
see him
on weekends, as I have to work in Dublin, and it would have meant
giving up
one of my weekends with him for the Show. I handed in my resignation
lately
to the bank where I've worked for 7 years, purely 'cos I miss him
That was probably Bernd Reinhardt then. I'll come with him to
QL2004.
OK, s we know what HE'll be doing on that day...:-)
Wolfgang
He he, I feel a Data Design workshop coming on at QL2004. Either that,
or lock Bernd in a room by himself not to come out until it's sorted!
--
Dilwyn Jones
Marcel wrote:
just came off the phone with Albin. In the course of the
conversation we recognised that we would have met tomorrow anyway at a
wedding of a mutual friend, so I will have some time to talk to him
and sort this out.
Any requests, suggestions?
Make him rewrite EasyPtr... :-)))
or
Jérôme Grimbert wrote:
Moreover, MySQL's views currently suck...
If you really need SQL power, you should consider PostgreSQL.
And then, even a big Q60 would not be enough.
Then it starts to get tricky. As open source DB's go, I would vote for
Firebird. I am sure Fred Toussi would agree on this
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
1 - the engine itself. this is what actually handles the data. This is in a
file called engine_rext which has to be LRESPR'd.
2 - A frontend program. This can be used to build and maintain simple
databases. I think it is simply called Datadesign. It's an executable prog.
3
- Original Message -
From: David Gilham
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it
My understanding is that I need freddies permission to release the
modified binary to the general QL communinity and that I am under a
Non disclosure arregement as regards the sources.I seem To
- Original Message -
From: Malcolm Cadman
( For info : Mark was previously a regular member of the London Quanta
Group )
I gathered that at present he is no longer programming, but now involved
in live public events where he does readings, etc. So his interest has
moved to the
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ql-users] QL2004
Dear QLers
just a quick reminder
QL2004
CELEBRATION OF 20th ANNIVERSARY OF THE SINCLAIR QL
COMPUTER
in Eindhoven/Netherlands on October 16th 2004
My apologies to all but we
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Joachim Van der Auwera
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On april 14, I sent an email to both Roy Wood and Rich Mellor with all
the sources for PROGS' QL software (well, not quite sure whether
sources for The PAINTER and other old stuff was included). Basically a
large
I have been made aware of the filter problem recently and have passed on
the comments Bernd who currently updates the software. We have recently
released the High Colour version as an upgrade.
--
Roy Wood
Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB
Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44
On 8 Oct 2004 at 20:50, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote:
(...)
Parts 1 and 3 have been open source for a couple of years now.
That's what I thought.
I has no reaction (which is no comment, just an observation).
(...)
Some thoughts and comments.
- The DATAdesign frontend was originally
On 8 Oct 2004 at 18:34, Dilwyn Jones wrote:
And just imagine the field days lawyers would have if they'd had to
plead
whether something was moral or not. Shudder.
Wolfgang
I thought you were a lawyer, Wolfgang?
yup.
Or is that what you meant???
Well...
Wolfgang
On 8 Oct 2004 at 19:48, gwicks wrote:
On Sunday it is the opening of the kiss season in Amsterdam. The
intiative comes from the cultural centre De Balie who say Amsterdammers
should increase love in the city by kissing more in the street. The
programme organiser, Lisa Boersen, says
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
1 - the engine itself. this is what actually handles the data.
This is in a
file called engine_rext which has to be LRESPR'd.
2 - A frontend program. This can be used to build and maintain
simple
databases. I think it is simply called Datadesign. It's an
I'll put an appeal in the next issue of Toady to see if anyone knows
of is whereabouts these days.
Dilwyn Jones
- Original Message -
From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it
-
A more recent case is EasyPtr. You cannot use this with the new
colours.
I just came off the phone with Albin. In the course of the
conversation we recognised that we would have met tomorrow anyway
at a
wedding of a mutual friend, so I will have some time to talk to
him
and sort this
But then, we in the QL World are always in favour of the KISS
principle,
anyway.
Wolfgang
Keep It SmSqe?
--
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Yes at last some sense about copyright ; one of 3 major topics that are
stifling QL viability.
If David Gilham is willing to release his work as freeware he and others
honesty believe and with reasonable
justification i.e. emails, or letters or well recalled conversations that
Freddie Vaccha
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote:
Marcel wrote:
just came off the phone with Albin. In the course of the
conversation we recognised that we would have met tomorrow anyway at a
wedding of a mutual friend, so I will have some time to talk to him
and sort this out.
Any requests, suggestions?
Make him rewrite
Wolfgang Uhlig wrote:
Make him rewrite EasyPtr... :-)))
Not going to happen. He said if he were retired he'd probably do
something, but as it is, he isn't and has enough paying things to do.
Marcel
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gwicks wrote:
Thanks Marcel. I think we need to know he would agree to a wider
distribution of your version of EasyPtr. We would have to decide if this
should be a charged or an free upgrade. (My feeling is that it is a
significant upgrade and therefore should be charged, but then you would
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