I never saw the message jms1 was answering with his message below. In fact
this is the first message Ive seen since 18/08 from Duncan Neithercut. Is
this a symptom of a general problem or just local to me?
Per
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To: Fabrizio Diversi [EMAIL
Nasta writes:
If you want to be absolutely sure, 1G QXL.WIN, with 32k allocation block
size is the way to go, it avoids all the possible pitfalls...
Actually a 1G QXL.WIN drive (cant we find a better name for QXL.WIN files?
How about just Win files?) has an allocation block size of 16k; 2G has
John Gilpin writes:
4Gb per QXL.win file is more than enough for me! I just didn't want to set
it all up then find I had overstepped the mark. (I will probably set up
three or four 1Gb files and see how it goes. - my BIG Hard drive is
about
80Gb in total ).
I only get 2GB with QPC2: FORMAT
wolfgang mühlegger writes:
Can anyone point me to the Sernet V2.25 manual? I want to know the
meaning
of the keywords and parameters.
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hi,
AFAIR is a textfile
Do I hear the distant hum of busy QLs - or is it just tinnitus?
Can anyone point me to the Sernet V2.25 manual? I want to know the meaning
of the keywords and parameters.
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George Gwilt writes:
There is one more change that I have made. That is in the choice of stack
size. EasyPtr and QPTR extensions need more stack than the 350 bytes
default. You
Could the problems I mentioned to you in a private mail (lots of
inexplicable run-time errors) relate to this issue,
Dilwyn Jones must have written:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's geared up for people with always-on connections.
Dial up users have to force it to update unless they happen to be online
when AVG7 reckons it's time to update. It normally tries to update every
2 days and normally has downloads
Hi Marcel,
I cant download (error 404: Datei nicht gefunden!). Can you check whether
the link is working, please?
Per
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] www.kilgus.net updated
. writes:
BTW: Due to the birth of my son I realise that I haven't uploaded the
Congratulations!!
appropriate files (as promised in the article) to my webserver. These will
be put there later tonight for everyone to download. If you download these
qxl.win files you can ensure that the
Dilwyn Jones writes:
--
Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.18 - Release Date: 19/04/2005
Look at the nasty virus youve got on your computer. Probably trying to shame
you into forking out more dosh. What lowlife! Time to
Marcel Kilgus writes:
First of all I'd like to note that whatever feature I thought it
would be cool if Turbo could do this Turbo could already do, one just
has to read the documentation.
Just is a pretty big word here ;) But you are right!
200 IF NOT(COMPILED) THEN
210 LRESPR
David Tubbs writes:
You, Per, don't convince me you have not solved someone else's problem
with taking top payscale. Never done work for local community, or worked
for a charity ?
Im not sure I catch your drift, but Ive spent most of my working life in
unwaged positions, in so-called ideal
Dilwyn Jones writes:
QPAC2 is NOT as many assume a more recent version of QPAC1!
But strangely enough QPAC2 is a successor to QRAM for all practical
purposes. However, most Qram utilities no longer work with the versions of
PE that came with and after Qpac2.
The general advice seems to be
John Sadler writes:
As Dilwyn Jones says in his article in Qtoady that TurboPtr is more
flexible
than EasyPtr, and the group members feel that software should be paid for,
George I wondered whether the group members did not use it because it
was
free and they would be happier paying £60 to
Roy wood writes:
The current version of ptr_gen and wman is 2.01. They are both in need of
an
update though, as they are out of synch with the corresponding SMSQ/E
versions (bugs and new facilities).
Who maintains these?
Well, they are now free to distribute and I do not think that anyone
George Gwilt writes:
Spurred by Per, I have produced a version of Turbo which allows slicing
of arrays used as parameters of machine code extensions.
Turbo v4g21 should be on the SQLUG site in a few days.
When you say spurred I hope you mean encouraged rather than
bullied ;)
Jochen Merz writes:
I'm on Tony's mailshot, or so I thought, but I never saw it! :-(
You are.
His announcement was on the JMS .gif image linked to from the emailshot.
Thanks Tony,
makes one wonder if that is read at all... maybe we should,
if it is a show invitation, just put
David Tubbs writes:
that the starter pack offer (234 Euros worth
Shall we say priced at rather than worth.
The authors think it should be higher whilst the market seems to suggest
otherwise.
What market? Pay peanuts, get monkeys.
Per
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George Gwilt writes:
Spurred by Per, I have produced a version of Turbo which allows slicing of
arrays used as parameters of machine code extensions.
Turbo v4g21 should be on the SQLUG site in a few days.
When you say spurred I hope you mean encouraged rather than bullied ;)
Looking forward
COLIN PARSONS writes:
So whats wrong with the demo version of QPC2? You can check out most of
the
new facilities and run most new programs. Enough to satisfy curiosity, I
should think.
You can't save any work. Hardly the way to encourage any new programmer to
the platform!!
Its
Jeremy Taffel writes:
So whats wrong with the demo version of QPC2? You can check out most of
the
new facilities and run most new programs. Enough to satisfy curiosity, I
should think.
No, not really, not without being able to save config files etc.
Ok, so if you had to solve the problem
Peter Graf writes:
Id go one better: The place to start, of course, is to make the Qx0
designs public and free so other people can develop and improve them,
and in some cases, build their own. A free computer to run free
software on. Just the thing.
The obstacle is production. If I
David Tubbs writes:
Really Per, I am surprised at your response !
Ooops! Have I put my mouth where my foot should have been?
No, not really, not without being able to save config files etc.
Ok, so if you had to solve the problem of producing a demo that would
satisfy curiosity, but was
Dilwyn Jones writes:
So whats wrong with the demo version of QPC2? You can check out most
of the new facilities and run most new programs. Enough to satisfy
curiosity, I should think.
No, not really, not without being able to save config files etc.
A reminder here that there are
Dilwyn Jones writes:
Although I don't think Freddy gets much time for QLing these days,
he speaks nostalgically of his time with the QL.
I happened to mention Quanta's QL Is 21 meeting to him. He said
it may be of interest to him and might wish to attend, if only for
nostalgic
reasons, if
Dilwyn Jones writes:
One can make money with free software also, but by adding value instead
of charging for the rigths over the binaries.
Added value can be:
- Distribution packages (Disk/CD/DVD)
- Handbooks and documentation
- Commercial support (e.g. for those who bought the
Roy wood writes:
I have no problem reading mine from QPC2.
I do have a w problem with it being called WIN6.
I must confess that that had not occurred to me before. I just made it
up as WIN6_ and did not really pay much attention to it being named
that. I have corrected this now and
Roy wood writes:
I intend to tackle the details of QXL.WIN file handling in the next part
of 'Start Here' in QL Today. I believe there is software to read QXL.WIN
files on other systems but I did get reports of people being unable to
access the QDT QXL.WIN files on the CD so I would be
Roy wood writes:
Problem is, at the end most people are busy getting home. I dont suppose
therell be an aftermath on Sunday? I cant make Saturday..
There is always some kind of aftermath. Jochen always likes to get an
Indian meal in at some point when he is here so I am planning to visit a
Could I ask a favour? I miscalculated the amount of stress and aggrevation a
recent programming project would cause me ;) so Ive smoQued up my stash of
acceptably taxed tobacco. If one of our Continental Cousins would be so kind
as to top me up at the Hove meeting on Sunday, Id be much obliged! Id
George Gwilt writes:
Turbo cannot set sliced arrays as parameters to S*BASIC procedures or
functions. This is because of the way the array descriptors are defined.
However it
is theoretically possible to set a sliced array as parameter to a machine
code
extension since Turbo defines an
Marcel Kilgus writes:
But I can change everything
Oh yes? ;)) One very simple improvement that could be made to MAWDRAW
would be to allow it to take an address instead of an array. The address
would point to a data area with the following structure - which you will
recognise as the last
Marcel Kilgus writes:
P Witte wrote:
But I can change everything
Oh yes? ;))
Can, not will ;-)
I knew I must be dreaming.. ;)
One very simple improvement that could be made to MAWDRAW
would be to allow it to take an address instead of an array. The address
would point to a data
Tony Firshman writes:
Two day shows are dead loss for me. It simply means I am less busy for
two days. Most people seem to come on the second day (like you John).
You always seem to manage to be busy enough ;) Personally, I think the
duration needs to be in some kind of proportion to the
A.. 2005/04/10 Update
a.. PED - Reported bugs fixed, except changing palette under Qdos. Some
minor additions
Available now @ http://knoware.mysite.freeserve.com/index.html
Id particularly like to hear from those who cant get the program to start at
all
Per
Marcel Kilgus writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The latest beta test version of Turbo, v4d21, should soon be on the
SQLUG
site. This one has compiled QPTR's demo_bas (after some
modifications).
I'm curious, what kind of modifications? Dimensioning of strings?
I've read the readme of v4c21
A.. 2005/04/08 Addition
a.. PED - PSION printer driver utility. For QDOS with TK2 and Wman2, or
SMSQE
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Marcel Kilgus writes:
P Witte wrote:
The compiler directive is correct, or at least as per what is in
ptrmen_cde ($$asmb=filename,4,82)
If the filename above should happen to be ptrmen_cde the correct
parameters
are
$$asmb=filename,0,82
No, 4,82 is the correct one. Address 4
Norman Dunbar writes:
MSTAT% is not in the redistributable code, it lives solely in the
ptrmenR code, ie, the resident stuff which you are not allowed
to link into your programs.
I never noticed. But it definitely is in the runtime version of the toolkit
now, and has been since V3.50 at
Dilwyn Jones writes:
The compiler directive is correct, or at least as per what is in
ptrmen_cde ($$asmb=filename,4,82)
If the filename above should happen to be ptrmen_cde the correct parameters
are
$$asmb=filename,0,82
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Ffibys writes:
I do... I actually do not like minesweeper games at all, but this is
Nor do I, but I liked writing one. As these games go, now that Ive at last
had a chance to practise, I find D-Miner quite enjoyable to play.
pretty damn good! I like the fonts Per used; are these prerendered
Marcel Kilgus writes:
P Witte wrote:
A.. 2005/03/27 Addition and Update
a.. D-Miner - Minesweeper clone for high-end SMSQ/E systems
Has nobody any comment on this? I thought this thing is freakishly
impressive and is really pushing the boundaries on what can be done
with the PE
Changes to Knoware:
A.. 2005/03/27 Addition and Update
a.. D-Miner - Minesweeper clone for high-end SMSQ/E systems
b.. Timer V0.09 - small update
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Ffibys writes:
I need a break from testing software as Ive got some pressing stuff of
my
own to do, but Im very interested to hear how this goes. The day Turbo
can be used with EasyPtr I may jump ship..
Per
Passing by reference works RIGHT now (Q-Word is working with that :-)
Ffibys
Ffibys writes:
I only want to play 20KHz samples to avoid the need for duplicate files
across QPC2 and Qx0. Im not sure Rich did solve the problem, as QWord -
beautiful as it looks on the Q60! - only beeps there, while it plays
sampled
sounds on QPC2.
Per
No, The Q60 DOES play
Hi guys,
Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60.
Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint as to
be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an impedance of
32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet to find an
electronics shop
Roy wood writes:
Ive been fiddling around with sound on my Q60.
Problem 1) Im using a standard PC speaker, but the sounds are so faint as
to
be barely audible. The Q60 manual says to use a speaker with an impedance
of
32 or higher. Standard speakers are 8 Ohm, and I have yet to find an
Ian writes:
When I try to run this in QPC, setenv is refused (not recognised). I must
be missing something in my boot program? Any ideas?
Make sure youre loading ENV_BIN before using SETENV
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Dilwyn Jones writes:
If you use WMOV there is only the old method available. You
can't use any of the new methods. Sometimes you have to use
WMOV. For example, the Launchpad clock runs in a MW_LINKed
window so it has to be stopped before a move routine is
called to move the main display.
Wolfgang Uhlig writes:
EasyMenu is not very good at displaying high colour sprites, you have to
fool it by putting a 4/8 mode sprite in front of each high colour
sprite.
This is not true! Only if you want to have the sprites in mode 4 or 8,
too.
Just to confuse things a bit more: Loose
Marcel Kilgus writes:
P Witte wrote:
1) Manually added scaling flags are removed on re-loading a menu
definition
and may even crash the program. 2) System sprites cant be shown and
other
hicolour sprites are problematic. 3) Application window scroll bar
attributes cannot be set
Roy wood writes:
The upgrade situation is not easy. I do have an updated version of
Easymenu and Easysprite but they are by no means releasable as Marcel
considers them unfinished. The question is would there be a market for
an updated version. Marcel does a lo of work on this kind of thing
Nice and quiet around here for a change ..
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Tony Firshman writes:
I keep quoting Lau's brilliant superHermes documentation, but it is
worth repeating.
The sH _asm was vast, but is mainly documentation.
He wrote giant introductions, where he had a dialogue (with himself) on
how to approach basic logic, listing out -all- his thoughts.
Im now the proud owner of my first Internet Security Solution, ie anti
virus, anti spam, anti adware, + firewall. I now fully realise what a
dreadful inconvenience the rest of the world and his dog seems to have put
up with while Ive been running wild and free these past ten years! Its
expensive -
Since its been so quiet these past few days, perhaps you wont mind me
announcing a piffling update to my website Knoware @:
http://knoware.mysite.freeserve.com/index.html
A.. 2005/02/06 Update
a.. Qwirc V0.66 - update and more bug fixes
b.. LX2 V0.03 - tiny but important change! See Readme
Rich Mellor writes:
No I am not certain. All I am certain of is that it's SMSQ_GOLD v3.06.
It probably ain't the colours version as DISP_COLOUR 2 does nothing it
seems.
I don't use the QL and MiniSQL Aurora that much, so have probably not
installed the right versions.
Only way of
- Aucun - writes:
I understand and believe that in your situation EX WIN6_myprog_exe
executes
myprog on your local machine, but EX n1_*win1_myprog_exe executes myprog
on
the remote machine, provided QPC runs there as well, I suppose (and WIN6_
on
you local QPC is WIN1_ on your remote
wolfgang mühlegger writes:
P Witte schrieb:
How do you make this work?
marcel hacked sernet to work 'over udp'
and it's working great!
I think I got that part of your earlier message ;) What do you need to
connect and how do you make it work?
Per
Rich Mellor writes:
Otherwise just use RESPR instead of ALCHP.
..provided no jobs are running (Qdos).
Per
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wolfgang mühlegger writes:
to me the most exiting thing has not been mentioned by a word:
marcel has modified sernet to udpnet.
so ql-networking is MUCH faster now and easier too - you do not have to
deal with baud rates, cables ...
How do you make this work?
thx marcel ..
Yes. A lot!
Dilwyn Jones writes:
Tony Tebby wrote:
Maybe that's out of copyright by now or maybe I'm not dead yet.
Ah, uncertainty. Maybe somebody should open the box and have a look
then?
No wonder the QL user list has been so busy this year if we are
starting to get contributions from
P Witte wrote:
TK2 V2.12, at least, contains the keywords to make or open directories. I
think the actual directory drivers are implemented separately. At least
with
some of the emulators you have to load both the toolkit ROM and a driver
ROM
such as NFA.ROM
The above is wrong. Apologies
Roy wood writes:
All you've proved is that the MAKE_DIR procedure is part of TKII...
But that was the bit he wanted. What were the differences between the
level two drivers and the normal ones then? This was a long time ago but
I thought that the differences were mainly the sub-directories
Roy wood writes:
After a discussion with Tony Tebby Jochen Merz and I have his permission
I hope you will all agree this is good news.
This is splendid news! Time for an Upgrade your QL website, somebody?
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George writes:
Caution! Caution! I was asked by someone to allow any file type to be set
by GWASS (other than 255 which is special). This implies that someone
somewhere is perhaps setting up file types of 3 to 254 in assembled
programs. Suddenly using one of these for another purpose might
Isnt the thing to do here to emulate the Windoze solution? Ie, each
directory entry has a short filename [SFN] wchich complies in every respect
with the old directory specs. The LFN is stored within the directory file in
specially marked records, or in a separate file. Eventually, the old system
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
But why? Its enough to know it can be done without knowing how ;)
OK, so this whole discussion makes no sense, I should just have gone
ahead...
That does not follow. The point of the discussion is not to fall into fixed
ideas before all the issues have been explored.
P Witte wrote:
DATA_USE 'win1_prg'
DDOWN 'ext'
PRINT DATAD$
would print win1_prg_ext_ on your screen.
I should add: Whether it exists or not, ie it appears to be a simple string
operation.
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Marcel Kilgus writes:
I mean things like .. and \ (root directory) of DOS.
Yes!!
Ok, so at least one likes my idea :-)
Two, I hope?
Shouldn't we just decide on a suggested value now instead of making
it dynamic (things like configuration options can't be dynamic
anyway)? Windows
George writes:
stack (a7)
channel count
channels
command string
magic (.w) - (a6,a5) (as at present)
program's name length (.w)
HD's length (.w)
program's name bytes
padding of above to 42 bytes
Since there is nothing on the stack after the
George writes:
I have also produced a private keyboard table loaded by KBD_TABLE which
to
some extent allows the two uses of the number pad. Holding down Alt Gr
makes the num pad act as though Num lock was off.
How difficult would it be to add Minerva's 'Compose' keystrokes? You
know,
Marcel Kilgus writes:
Just an unrelated note to the DOS long-filename-hack: They had to do
this because a single file name was limited to only 8 characters. We
have 36 characters to work with, which is much less of a burden. So I
don't see the need for something similar.
But they had a
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
set a default filename for a job with a certain name
No. I dont see the point. They can just use PROGD$ as now.
No, I thought about hot_rext'd progs.
What are they?. I dont have a hot_rext (or similar) command. If this is
contained in some toolkit, then that
Marcel Kilgus writes:
Also something one should probably think about: should functions like
OPEN automatically use the current directory if no drive name is
given? Currently most commands default to DATAD$.
Or, speaking completely into the blue, what about a meta device like
DEV_ that uses
Marcel Kilgus writes:
Even though it is my idea this probably needs more thinking. The
device I proposed is probably not the way to go, instead perhaps the
OPEN routine would need to be changed to automatically make use of the
current directory, otherwise it's probably somewhat pointless.
George writes:
I have also produced a private keyboard table loaded by KBD_TABLE which to
some extent allows the two uses of the number pad. Holding down Alt Gr
makes the num pad act as though Num lock was off.
How difficult would it be to add Minerva's 'Compose' keystrokes? You know,
'a' +
Some time ago I wrote about a problem with a green, jinxed PC I have, and I
received a lot of helpful advice on this list - Thank you! I had this
machine built for me at a local computer shop. Not the industry's brightest
people, pehaps, but very helpful and friendly. They were at a complete loss.
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
What are they?. I dont have a hot_rext (or similar) command. If this is
contained in some toolkit, then that toolkit should be altered, not the
system.
yes, you do :-)
eg ert hot_rext(' f ',' win1_progs_fifi ').
Sets FiFi up as a hotkey (in fact an executable
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
It will be set up as a thing (since I don't think we have found any
other satisfactory solution for compiled Basic).
We havent really tried, but ok
Go ahead!!!
But why? Its enough to know it can be done without knowing how ;)
Actually I can think of one
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
[Save Name]
Right, I wasn't even aware of that possibility!
I've had a quick look, this seem to be an Sbasic specific feature, it
doesn't exist in Superbasic (nor, I think in TK II, but could somebody
check?)..
Yes, its strictly SMSQE only. Nice little job for some
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
Your idea sounds excellent. Instead of my bicycle you and Wolfgang
have produced a Mercedes. I am in favour (as long as I dont have to
produce it ;)
Damn, that was my precondition, too! ;-) But it does start to sound
like a worthwhile job.
You will notice
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
Sorry but A6,A5 does indeed point to the *end* of the command string at
least when the job is invoked by EX it doesn't point to any data area
Yes, the documentation is a bit misleading here.
Apart form that, I think we agree on the Ex mechanism.
(...)
QLib
Marcel Kilgus writes:
However, this is a much more ambitious project than a mere home
directory affair.
Actually I think it doesn't amount to much more work.
Perhaps it is a separate piece of work altogether? Afterall, why not have as
many current directories as you like, from 0..n? This
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
Other thought: make the job use the thing, which in turn reserves the
memory. On removal the thing will be informed and can deal with that.
Just a thought, I am NO expert on things.
But this is entirely correct - it would just mean that the thing would
have to be
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
Sorry if I misunderstood.
(or I did!)
It is easier to misunderstand that otherwise. Weve all been doing a lot of
that during this and other discussions. Very frustrating, but it cant be
helped. As long as we get some results AND stay positive very little else
matters
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
1) Older programs which would expect (a6,a5) to point to the command
string at the top of the data area. If we were to adopt this scheme,
then
a lot of existing programs would immediately not be able to get at any
parameters passed to them. We do not have the
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
Whatever the low-down implementation, ideally the workings of the HD/CD
should be as consistent as possible accross m/c programs, interpreted
Sbasic
or compiled Sbasic.
Anything that wouldn't be available to compiled Sbasic wouldn't make
much sense!
True ;) I
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
Or a completely different proposal:
(putting the home dir after the command string)
As long as you dont mean that this has to be done on the EX command line, I
agree with the above description.
Having said that, it /would/ perhpas be nice to add something like this
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
Default could also be DATAD$ or whatever.
that would defeat the wholme exercice.
Why that? It's just a fallback solution if otherwise no other
directory can be provided (none set).
Well, it already exists...
Wouldn't it be better if
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
That is why Im suggesting to use the Save Name as
the Homedir in the interpreter. The difficult bits have already been
implemented, only we dont currently have access to the Save Name except
indirectly through (Q)SAVEing and (Q)LOADing the current program.
Oops,
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
Doesnt this defeat the object? We already can do this with a simple
Config block. The point of a Homedir is that you can always know
the name and path of the current job from wherever it is executed.
I think we were talking about jobs executed from things which
Marcel Kilgus writes:
No, I have for example a current directory in mind, which should be
changeable (on request of the application) after the application
started to run. I also have a device in mind that automatically
accesses the current directory. None of which is cleanly doable with
the
Wolfgang Lenerz writes:
Having said that, it /would/ perhpas be nice to add something like this
as an option to
overwrite the default home directory, although is does complicate an
already overloaded parameter list:
EX filename ; command string ! different homedir
Before
Dilwyn Jones writes:
We've down this road many times before, unless Marcel has new ideas to
offer I don't really see the point of raising this again. Just because
JRH managed to exceed 36 characters in his zip files!
Not quite. Ive always lobbied for an advanced new file system. Im now
Marcel Kilgus writes:
Im assuming that you were answering two different mails here. Forget the QPC
'hole' that got me going and lets look at path depth for SMSQ/E in general:
Unfortunately directories have to be read raw, meaning that the
format is limited to 36 characters. If one were to
Kjartan Geble Olsen writes:
Norsk?
But I can already hear the whining but I can't adapt my application
to use the new traps as then it wouldn't be QDOS compatible anymore,
so I probably just don't bother. Not trying to discourage anybody
else, of course, it's just my view of things.
Is
François Van Emelen writes:
Perhaps we should have another bash at finding a solution to our
debilitating filename length problem?
snip
Let battle commence!
Per
What about QVFS QDOS Virtual File System by Hans-Peter Reckenwald?
François Van Emelen
I did mention this (option 2) I tried it a
Or a completely different proposal:
Lets take the standard job as the starting point. Dealing with QLiberated or
Turboed jobs need some special treatment.
When a job is first started it has a code area and a data area. If there are
open channels or a command line the Basic keywords EX (and
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