Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-13 Thread Mike MacNamara
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Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-12 Thread Tony Firshman
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 at 00:23:26, Roy wood wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Also its security support from file level up, is unparalleled. This may only be because it is not probed in the same way. The whole of the internet

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-12 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP No information that Urmm - what language is that? (8-)# Do you mean 'I don't know' or 'You have the wrong information' or what? Missed out the 'on' -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex. Tel: +44 (0) 1273

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems (OT)

2004-04-12 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP (the IT dept still haven't found a way of enabling the spell checker in MS Office). Sounds like an inept IT support team. EXCEL has excellent sharing capabilities if it is turned on. We use it all the time at work. I have

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-12 Thread Arnould Nazarian
SMSQ/E is mostly so easy to use because it has never even heard of the words security concept (does the mail count as OnTopic now? ;-) ) And if I understood well my discussions with TT, this was exactly his target in 1983: no security stuff for a very small personal computer because it is not

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-11 Thread Jeremy Taffel
: Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Sadler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes - Original Message - From: Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-11 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeremy Taffel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes You might know about MS, but I think you are misinformed about Linux. If you buy a Linux suite - and Mandrake Pro-suite comes to mind here - you get a DVD and about 9 CDs containing pretty much every application you will ever

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-11 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Also, (believe it or not), support for hardware is not patchy like it used to be. USB is better behaved than using Windows 98SE - no printer problems there , eh Dilwyn?! Even Winmodems are (in the main) supported, as are digital cameras, TV cards, parallel port scanners Win98SE is

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-11 Thread Tony Firshman
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 at 12:32:39, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Also, (believe it or not), support for hardware is not patchy like it used to be. USB is better behaved than using Windows 98SE - no printer problems there , eh Dilwyn?! Even Winmodems are (in the main) supported,

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems (OT)

2004-04-11 Thread Jeremy Taffel
My dabbling with LINUX were some time ago and, at the time I found it unwieldy and time consuming to set up. I also found the application very clunky. Over Christmas I upgraded from Mandrake 8.2 to 9.2 and from Windows 98 to 98SE. The former was no problem. The latter was a real palava.

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-11 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Also its security support from file level up, is unparalleled. This may only be because it is not probed in the same way. I firmly believe that one of the reasons so many attacks target windows is because the attackers have

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems (OT)

2004-04-11 Thread Roy wood
Over Christmas I upgraded from Mandrake 8.2 to 9.2 and from Windows 98 to 98SE. The former was no problem. The latter was a real palava. Umpteen reboots; then installing all the manufacturers hardware drivers, then visiting the microsoft site to get all the OS updates - then reinstalling all the

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-10 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?iso-8859-7?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKNbv3+Lv8iDRLiDN9Pzq7/IpIg==?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Which is still about 100 USD and you probably mean an Upgrade edition of XP Home which is NOT XP Pro I was talking about. (And you can get that for about 60 bucks here

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-08 Thread John Sadler
- Original Message - From: Mike MacNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:21 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems Hi I agree with Roy on this, Windoze is what you make it, its just as much fun to tinker with as Qdos. The latest

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-08 Thread Dave P
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, John Sadler wrote: I thought Microsoft had not produced a 64 bit operating system yet. However AMD 64 bit processors run faster. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/downloads/upgrade.asp Free download beta edition... Dave

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-08 Thread James Hunkins
Cool, another chance to volunteer for one of Microsoft's pre-releases (IE: alpha) and work as a tester for them for free! :) jim On Apr 8, 2004, at 11:36 AM, Dave P wrote: On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, John Sadler wrote: I thought Microsoft had not produced a 64 bit operating system yet. However AMD

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-08 Thread Mike MacNamara
- From: Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, John Sadler wrote: I thought Microsoft had not produced a 64 bit operating system yet. However AMD 64 bit processors run faster. http

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-08 Thread James Hunkins
is an insight. runnimg on MSI KT8 neo, AMD64 3200+, takes the legs of anything we've had before. including our G4s. mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-07 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 6 Apr 2004 at 21:18, Dilwyn Jones wrote: This is something we don't have much of on the QL scene - automatic software updates. On the whole we replace the entire program package by overwriting it, or replace a few files such as the main executable. If we are lucky, the configuration is

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-07 Thread Tony Firshman
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 at 10:16:56, Tony Firshman wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 at 10:19:26, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I see you two are a few fingered typist like me. ^Whoops - 'too'. I am sure you are one person really (8-)# --

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-07 Thread Phoebus R. Dokos ( . )
On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:19:26 +0200, Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6 Apr 2004 at 21:18, Dilwyn Jones wrote: This is something we don't have much of on the QL scene - automatic software updates. On the whole we replace the entire program package by overwriting it, or replace a few

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-07 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 7 Apr 2004 at 6:47, Phoebus R. Dokos (è á. ç) wrote: (...) Nope it ain't. OS functionality changes are very few and have been available for years now only not released to the public. OS functionality means better memory protection, driver software, that kind of thing... not

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-07 Thread Tony Firshman
On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 at 16:24:06, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 7 Apr 2004 at 10:16, Tony Firshman wrote: Having integrated software does not negate your position at all. To not use them, one simply installs other software and let the installation change the default,

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-07 Thread Dilwyn Jones
This is something we don't have much of on the QL scene - automatic software updates. On the whole we replace the entire program package by overwriting it, or replace a few files such as the main executable. If we are lucky, the configuration is held in a separate file and so settings

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-07 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?iso-8859-7?B?IlBob2VidXMgUi4gRG9rb3MgKNbv3+Lv8iDRLiDN9Pzq7/IpIg==?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes As for what Roy talks about in length, I do not disagree that a user wants to plug and go any machine (That was the idea behind the QL anyway), however the Windoze

RE: [ql-users] Operating Systems..Notepad..?

2004-04-07 Thread ian . pizer
-- Message original -- From: Arvid Børretzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ql-users] Operating Systems..Notepad..? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:11:03 +0200 Cc: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony wrote: Word is a case in point here. I really hate Word - it is pretty

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-06 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Yet applications like Browsers, DTP, Graphics, etc, are not part of what is supplied. Which makes sense, as this keeps the market open for the development of software. But they are still developed. Go to Tucows and see how

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-06 Thread J G Hitchcock
(.) But it is in modern terms. This is the crux of what I started ages ago. Our concept of a computer lives in the past. Today that idea is not want is wanted by Joe public. -- Roy Wood I have followed/am following this discussion with interest. I

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-06 Thread Mike MacNamara
MacNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], J G Hitchcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes (.) But it is in modern

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-05 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 4 Apr 2004 at 23:58, Roy wood wrote: (...) If the boot program was pre written they would have no problem but I have direct experience that even on the QL basic level some people cannot write BOOT files, I wasn't suggesting that the users write the boot file themselves. () I have

Re: [ql-users] Operating Systems

2004-04-04 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Surely you do not suggest that making a boot file (or similar) that loads separate programs in a standardized way is difficult at least as far the great unwashed (where ever did that expression come from?) are concerned. So