Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-09 Thread Wolfgang Uhlig
Am Tue, 8 Mar 2005 22:59:14 - hat Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben: Create a small menu, say one info window and one loose item. Do not MCALL, just MDRAW then try to MWINDOW to the loose item followed by MINPUT. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it only

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-08 Thread Wolfgang Uhlig
Hi Marcel, Is this all? Nobody else any problems? I won't promise anything, but if I don't know what's wrong I certainly cannot change it. I promise that I will never ever see you as THE person to ask for improvements of EasyPtr ;) but I am happy that you do it :) Okay then, one problem with

Re: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-08 Thread dilwyn.jones
3) Application window scroll bar attributes cannot be set or changed without specifying a pre-set menu too. Part of the problem may be with the toolkit which seems to ignore or overwrite attributes added by hand later. This sounds a bit complicated, especially as all the application

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-08 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Is this all? Nobody else any problems? I won't promise anything, but if I don't know what's wrong I certainly cannot change it. Think the only other things which spring to mind are: You cannot create an application sub-window menu with MAWDRAW or MAWSETUP which only contains one item in the

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-08 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Rich Mellor wrote: You cannot create an application sub-window menu with MAWDRAW or MAWSETUP which only contains one item in the menu. I need example for that, as simple as possible. MITEM does not allow you to redraw the loose item - it should accept the , or \ separator in line with the

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-06 Thread Franois Van Emelen
Wolfgang Uhlig schreef: Am Sat, 05 Mar 2005 22:08:04 +0100 hat François Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] geschrieben: 230 MDRAW#3,mysuqces$ :REMark mawdraw#3,4 Oh Francois, what's that? I don't know but one SuQcess and that's the one of me and Bob Spelten ;) What's in a variable's name. Line 230

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-06 Thread P Witte
Wolfgang Uhlig writes: EasyMenu is not very good at displaying high colour sprites, you have to fool it by putting a 4/8 mode sprite in front of each high colour sprite. This is not true! Only if you want to have the sprites in mode 4 or 8, too. Just to confuse things a bit more: Loose

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-06 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I have been using this for quite some time now, even in my Email reader. Easymenu can do much more than we first thought. You miss the point. It can't do much of this without quite a lot of lateral thinking and programming around limitations. This is exactly what people want corrected. --

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-06 Thread Marcel Kilgus
P Witte wrote: 1) Manually added scaling flags are removed on re-loading a menu definition and may even crash the program. 2) System sprites cant be shown and other hicolour sprites are problematic. 3) Application window scroll bar attributes cannot be set or changed without specifying a

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-06 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: 1. I can't change the colour of the border or main window unless I cover the main window with an info window. If Easyptr allowed, say, MWINDOW #0,0 for the main outline it might then be possible to change the main menu colour. Use system palette colours in the menu and

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-06 Thread Marcel Kilgus
François Van Emelen wrote: Some functions/procedures need improvement. For example 'RPXL%' (returns the pixel colour at a given position) only works in QL colours. This is an SMSQ/E limitation. About TurboPtr: the demo George showed us in Eindhoven(QL2004) didn't convince me to abandon

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-06 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Dilwyn Jones wrote: I'm not sure I can enter system palette colours in standard Easyptr can I? No, I thought you had the newer one, haven't really kept track of it. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-06 Thread P Witte
Marcel Kilgus writes: P Witte wrote: 1) Manually added scaling flags are removed on re-loading a menu definition and may even crash the program. 2) System sprites cant be shown and other hicolour sprites are problematic. 3) Application window scroll bar attributes cannot be set or

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-05 Thread jms1
- Original Message - From: P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic Snip Although, in the fullness of time, the tools that George has produced to go with TurboPtr, may become replacements

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-05 Thread jms1
- Original Message - From: Wolfgang Uhlig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can live without a good menu designer or a sprite editor, but not without

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-05 Thread François Van Emelen
P Witte schreef: SNIP Its a pity Albin is no longer interested in developing EP, but thats life. It needent be such a big task, though. IMHO EP could be split into three or four different projects: 1) EasyMen, 2) EasySprite, 3) the toolkit, 4) C-stuff. 1) EasyMenu: In fact I would be happy with

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-05 Thread Marcel Kilgus
wolfgang mühlegger wrote: but why did he do it then? Just for fun. and why did he give it to beta-testers then? There were no beta testers. I just gave it to some people and said look, mom, without hands. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-05 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: wolfgang mühlegger To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic gwicks schrieb: Nevertheless Marcel has already made a considerable improvement to EasyPtr, but as yet it is only available to a few

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-05 Thread Franois Van Emelen
gwicks schreef: SNIP When I last saw the upgraded version all it did was allow you to use GD2 colours directly, but nothing else. For example, if you use high resolution sprites you have to load these into EasyMenu every time you make changes to a menu. This is not true. Once your window is

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-05 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Geoff Wicks wrote: As I understand it the history is as follows: When QL-ers first started to program in GD2 colours, the possibility of upgrading EasyPtr was raised including a lot of discussion on this list. Just out of interest Marcel took a look at it and working through the night produced a

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-05 Thread Marcel Kilgus
gwicks wrote: At this stage there was some doubt over the legal position, which in itself led to a lot of misunderstanding because no one had thought of asking Albin. I understand that he is quite happy for the program to be upgraded. Yes, he basically said that anything I choose to do is

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-04 Thread James Hunkins
Myself for another. jim On Mar 3, 2005, at 11:17 PM, François Van Emelen wrote: Roy wood schreef: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Snip Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I On the subject of EasyPtr any news of a possible upgrade? The upgrade

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-04 Thread Wolfgang Uhlig
The question is would there be a market for an updated version. Marcel does a lo of work on this kind of thing and gets little back for it. He has the source files but I cannot, in all honesty, ask him to work for nothing. He says that the code is not that easy to understand so he is the

Re: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-04 Thread dilwyn.jones
Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I On the subject of EasyPtr any news of a possible upgrade? The upgrade situation is not easy. I do have an updated version of Easymenu and Easysprite but they are by no means releasable as Marcel considers them unfinished.

Re: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-04 Thread dilwyn.jones
I would definitely want to have an upgrade (and pay for it ofcourse) and think that we need it urgently. So, as far as I am concerned, please stop discussing it, fix a price for it and begin to DO it. Wolfgang Agreed, Wolfgang. QPCprint will appeal only to QPC2 users, so a small

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-04 Thread Fabrizio Diversi
Me too. Fabrizio - Original Message - From: Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes - Original Message - From: Roy wood

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-04 Thread P Witte
Roy wood writes: The upgrade situation is not easy. I do have an updated version of Easymenu and Easysprite but they are by no means releasable as Marcel considers them unfinished. The question is would there be a market for an updated version. Marcel does a lo of work on this kind of thing

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-04 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Uhlig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP I am a liittle bit astonished because AFAIR there were many people in Eindhoven 2004 already who pointed out that they would be willing to pay for an upgraded version of EasyPtr. Nevertheless nothing happens exept for

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-04 Thread wolfgang mhlegger
James Hunkins schrieb: Myself for another. jim On Mar 3, 2005, at 11:17 PM, François Van Emelen wrote: Roy wood schreef: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Snip Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I On the subject of EasyPtr any news of a possible

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-04 Thread Wolfgang Uhlig
P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We can live without a good menu designer or a sprite editor, but not without a way of displaying and manipulating our windows and menus from within programs, so for me that is the main priority. As to me, I can live without a sprite editor because it's possible to

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-04 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Roy wood To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic As the person who raised this yet again I would also be prepared to pay for an upgrade. At QL2004 I asked Marcel specifically about his

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-04 Thread wolfgang mhlegger
gwicks schrieb: As the person who raised this yet again I would also be prepared to pay for an upgrade. At QL2004 I asked Marcel specifically about his attitude to the EasyPtr upgrade and he was quite definite that he did not want to be seen as Mr. EasyPtr. I interpreted this to mean that he

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-03 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Roy wood Subject: Re: [ql-users] movig sbasic Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I On the subject of EasyPtr any news of a possible upgrade? Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http

Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic

2005-03-03 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes - Original Message - From: Roy wood Subject: Re: [ql-users] movig sbasic Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I On the subject of EasyPtr any news of a possible upgrade? The upgrade situation is not easy