Re: [Ql-Users] Qptr manual 6.04

[Tobias Fröschle via Ql-Users]

Wolfgang,

thanks for keeping these documents up-to-date.

Thanks especially for this sentence in the QPTR manual (that made it in a 
couple of releases ago)

>Note also that most device drivers, when requested to open a directory will, 
>if no such directory exists, open the next >existing higher level directory. 
>Most QL software expects this behaviour. 


which kind of was a revelation when I stumbled across it - That is, apparently, 
not documented anywhere else and gave an explanation why one of my drivers 
didn't work as expected with some programs.

Tobias


> Am 22.07.2018 um 11:47 schrieb Wolf via Ql-Users :
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I updated the QPTR manual to version 6.04, some additional corrections and 
> information are now included.
> 
> wlenerz.com/qlstuff
> 
> Have fun!
> 
> 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR

[Urs Koenig (QL)]

Wolfgang wrote:
> Tony Tebby has allowed the QPTR toolkit to be made freely available.
Great!

I call this spring time feeling, the ice is broken!

Hope to see more and more programs become free.

> I upgraded an old version of the source code to correspond to the latest
> compiled version known to me (0.14).
The latest version of the QPTR binary I have is 0.08. The corresponding
Floppy Disk is labelled (STAT) 0.23. I think this is the release number of
the package. Here's the file list:
boot376 26.07.1991 16:06
Config  6'174   26.07.1991 16:06
Config_demo_asm 5'809   26.07.1991 16:06
Config_mac  5'474   26.07.1991 16:06
cvscr   2'144   26.07.1991 16:06
demo_action_asm 7'329   26.07.1991 16:06
demo_bas16'588  26.07.1991 16:06
demo_bin2'152   26.07.1991 16:06
demo_draw_asm   1'373   26.07.1991 16:06
demo_init_asm   4'777   26.07.1991 16:06
demo_keys   786 26.07.1991 16:06
demo_link   633 26.07.1991 16:06
demo_mlyot_asm  8'364   26.07.1991 16:06
demo_mmain_asm  1'701   26.07.1991 16:06
demo_panscr 11'172  26.07.1991 16:06
demo_panscr_bas 15'713  26.07.1991 16:06
demo_setup_asm  5'190   26.07.1991 16:06
demo_sms491 26.07.1991 16:06
demo_sprite_asm 6'106   26.07.1991 16:06
demo_text_asm   952 26.07.1991 16:06
demo_wman_asm   572 26.07.1991 16:06
edspr_bas   19'171  26.07.1991 16:06
fixpf   212 26.07.1991 16:06
keys_colour 426 26.07.1991 16:06
keys_k  3'296   26.07.1991 16:06
old_ptr_kbd 9'452   26.07.1991 16:06
old_wman4'986   26.07.1991 16:06
paint   49'682  26.07.1991 16:06
paint_bas   46'250  26.07.1991 16:06
ptr_gen 14'500  26.07.1991 16:06
ptr_keys6'845   26.07.1991 16:06
qdos_io 5'798   26.07.1991 16:06
qdos_pt 3'510   26.07.1991 16:06
Qptr9'328   26.07.1991 16:06
stk23'894   26.07.1991 16:06
stkinc  2'356   26.07.1991 16:06
Updates 754 26.07.1991 16:06
Wman10'122  26.07.1991 16:06
wman_keys   1'062   26.07.1991 16:06
wman_menu_mac   22'831  26.07.1991 16:06
wman_text_mac   4'078   26.07.1991 16:06
wman_wdef   7'708   26.07.1991 16:06
wman_wstatus3'554   26.07.1991 16:06
wman_wwork  9'660   26.07.1991 16:06

Wolfgang, I can supply you those files in a ZIP file created under our OS
(to make sure the file headers are intact).

QL forever!

Urs

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR

[Derek Stewart]

On 15/03/17 11:39, Wolf wrote:

Hi,

There was one include file missing from the sources on the website
(qptr_keys), it's in them now (redownload the source zip file).

Apart from that, qptr now uses the keys (include) files from the smsqe
sources, as mentioned in the readme file.

Nothing else should be necessary. I do not have the additional programs,
or if I do, I don't know where.

But if you do, yes, please make them available!

Regards

Wolfgang


Hi Wolfgang,

I downloaded the QPTR source and binary OK.

When I bought the QPTR Toolkit from Jochen, there was support
programmes, programming include files. Are these to made available?


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Hi Wolfgang,

I will dig out my QPTR Toolkit Disk and email you the files.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR

[Wolf]

Hi,

There was one include file missing from the sources on the website 
(qptr_keys), it's in them now (redownload the source zip file).


Apart from that, qptr now uses the keys (include) files from the smsqe 
sources, as mentioned in the readme file.


Nothing else should be necessary. I do not have the additional programs, 
or if I do, I don't know where.


But if you do, yes, please make them available!

Regards

Wolfgang


Hi Wolfgang,

I downloaded the QPTR source and binary OK.

When I bought the QPTR Toolkit from Jochen, there was support
programmes, programming include files. Are these to made available?


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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR

[Derek Stewart]

On 15/03/17 10:35, Wolf wrote:

Hi Norman,

thanks for that, the readme is in the zip file for the binary, I'll
amend the text on the website.

Best regards

Wolfgang

On 15/03/2017 11:24, Norman Dunbar wrote:

Morning Wolf,

You mention,on the Web page, a readme.txt file for the qptr sources,
but the zip file doesn't appear to have one in it.

Probably a minor oversight, but I thought you better know, just in case.


Cheers,
Norm.

On 15 March 2017 07:04:26 GMT+00:00, Wolf  wrote:

Hi all,

Tony Tebby has allowed the QPTR toolkit to be made freely available.

I upgraded an old version of the source code to correspond to the
latest
compiled version known to me (0.14).

You can find it + the source code at www.wlenerz.com/QLstuff

Have fun.

Wolfgang
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Hi Wolfgang,

I downloaded the QPTR source and binary OK.

When I bought the QPTR Toolkit from Jochen, there was support 
programmes, programming include files. Are these to made available?


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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR

[Wolf]

Hi Norman,

thanks for that, the readme is in the zip file for the binary, I'll 
amend the text on the website.


Best regards

Wolfgang

On 15/03/2017 11:24, Norman Dunbar wrote:

Morning Wolf,

You mention,on the Web page, a readme.txt file for the qptr sources, but the 
zip file doesn't appear to have one in it.

Probably a minor oversight, but I thought you better know, just in case.


Cheers,
Norm.

On 15 March 2017 07:04:26 GMT+00:00, Wolf  wrote:

Hi all,

Tony Tebby has allowed the QPTR toolkit to be made freely available.

I upgraded an old version of the source code to correspond to the
latest
compiled version known to me (0.14).

You can find it + the source code at www.wlenerz.com/QLstuff

Have fun.

Wolfgang
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR

[Norman Dunbar]

Morning Wolf,

You mention,on the Web page, a readme.txt file for the qptr sources, but the 
zip file doesn't appear to have one in it.

Probably a minor oversight, but I thought you better know, just in case.


Cheers,
Norm.

On 15 March 2017 07:04:26 GMT+00:00, Wolf  wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Tony Tebby has allowed the QPTR toolkit to be made freely available.
>
>I upgraded an old version of the source code to correspond to the
>latest 
>compiled version known to me (0.14).
>
>You can find it + the source code at www.wlenerz.com/QLstuff
>
>Have fun.
>
>Wolfgang
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR Manual

[Wolfgang Lenerz]

Hi Tobias,


p. 16, paragraph above „Menus“
p 143, 3rd paragraph, „may not be altered“



Ok, thanks!


The others, I think you’ve already covered. (Fast work!)



No, time warp : done before you mentioned the problem!


Wolfgang



Thanks aga

in,

Tobias




that jobs that don’t have their windows as topmost in the pile and
try to output to the screen will be suspended - With Marcel’s PE_BGON
and PE_BGOFF changes this „feature“ can at least be switched off in 
WMAN2.


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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR Manual

[Tobias Fröschle]

Wolfgang,

are you willing to further maintain the documents?

Two issues came to my mind that are present in newer PTR/WMAN versions and not 
covered in the documents anywhere yet  (Some people will never be satisfied… ;) 
):
There’s still some mentioning here and there that jobs that don’t have their 
windows as topmost in the pile and try to output to the screen will be 
suspended - With Marcel’s PE_BGON and PE_BGOFF changes this „feature“ can at 
least be switched off in WMAN2.
According to Marcel (and my tests) IOP.SPRY is not implemented on GD2 
high-color screens.

Maybe you want to mention this should you intend to produce a future version. 

Cheers,
Tobias


Am 30.04.2014 um 07:07 schrieb Wolfgang Lenerz w...@wlenerz.com:

 
 Thanks Tobias.
 
 Wolfgang,
 
 only just seen it:
 
 I severely think this effort deserves more than a single „Thank You“.
 
 Really great, now I can dispose my collection of loose leaves that 
 accumulated over the years and replace it with one single proper document.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR Manual

[Wolfgang Lenerz]

Hi Tobias,

 are you willing to further maintain the documents?

Yes.

 Two issues came to my mind that are present in newer PTR/WMAN versions and 
 not covered in the documents anywhere yet  (Some people will never be 
 satisfied… ;) ):
 There’s still some mentioning here and there 

Any idea where?

 that jobs that don’t have their windows as topmost in the pile and
 try to output to the screen will be suspended - With Marcel’s PE_BGON
 and PE_BGOFF changes this „feature“ can at least be switched off in 
 WMAN2.
OK, I did add the section on background I/O in the concept section for that.

 According to Marcel (and my tests) IOP.SPRY is not implemented on GD2 
 high-color screens.

Ah yes. Thanks, I'll correct that.

 Maybe you want to mention this should you intend to produce a future version. 

I certainly shall.
Thanks


Wolfgang

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR Manual

[Tobias Fröschle]

Am 30.04.2014 um 08:43 schrieb Wolfgang Lenerz w...@wlenerz.com:

 Any idea where?

p. 16, paragraph above „Menus“
p 143, 3rd paragraph, „may not be altered“

The others, I think you’ve already covered. (Fast work!)

Thanks again,
Tobias

 
 that jobs that don’t have their windows as topmost in the pile and
 try to output to the screen will be suspended - With Marcel’s PE_BGON
 and PE_BGOFF changes this „feature“ can at least be switched off in 
 WMAN2.

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR Manual

[Wolfgang Lenerz]

Thanks Per!

Wolfgang

 Very nice, Wolfgang :)
 
 Per
 
 
 On 17 April 2014 16:59, Wolfgang Lenerz w...@wlenerz.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,

 The latest version of the QPTR (Pointer Environment) manual is out.

 It hopefully is up-to-date with the latest developments.

 You can find it at www.wlenerz.com/smsqe and more directly at
 http://www.wlenerz.com/smsqe/add1.html.

 If you find any errors or things that need be corrected, tell me.

 Have fun!

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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR Manual

[Tobias Fröschle]

Wolfgang,

only just seen it: 

I severely think this effort deserves more than a single „Thank You“.

Really great, now I can dispose my collection of loose leaves that accumulated 
over the years and replace it with one single proper document.

Cheers,
Tobias



Am 29.04.2014 um 07:58 schrieb Wolfgang Lenerz w...@wlenerz.com:

 Thanks Per!
 
 Wolfgang
 
 Very nice, Wolfgang :)
 
 Per
 
 
 On 17 April 2014 16:59, Wolfgang Lenerz w...@wlenerz.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 The latest version of the QPTR (Pointer Environment) manual is out.
 
 It hopefully is up-to-date with the latest developments.
 
 You can find it at www.wlenerz.com/smsqe and more directly at
 http://www.wlenerz.com/smsqe/add1.html.
 
 If you find any errors or things that need be corrected, tell me.
 
 Have fun!
 
 Wolfgang
 
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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR Manual

[Wolfgang Lenerz]

Thanks Tobias.


Wolfgang,

only just seen it:

I severely think this effort deserves more than a single „Thank You“.

Really great, now I can dispose my collection of loose leaves that accumulated 
over the years and replace it with one single proper document.

Cheers,
Tobias




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Re: [Ql-Users] QPTR Manual

[Per Witte]

Very nice, Wolfgang :)

Per


On 17 April 2014 16:59, Wolfgang Lenerz w...@wlenerz.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 The latest version of the QPTR (Pointer Environment) manual is out.

 It hopefully is up-to-date with the latest developments.

 You can find it at www.wlenerz.com/smsqe and more directly at
 http://www.wlenerz.com/smsqe/add1.html.

 If you find any errors or things that need be corrected, tell me.

 Have fun!

 Wolfgang

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