Re: [ql-users] Abacus to HTML

2006-02-24 Thread Norman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My best idea so far has been to create an HTML-generating printer_dat
 for Xchange, which I hope to put on my website tonight.

What a cunning idea - I like it !


 translates: as required, e.g. £ to 163.

This might be difficult. You can find a list (incomplete unfortunately) on my 
HTML website (www.bountiful.demon.co.uk/html/index.html) for the 'special 
characters' but basically you will probably also need :

'' = lt;
'' = gt;
'' = amp;

The other problem you might suffer from is multiple spaces and newlines (is 
that possible in Abacus - except that you are using the PRE tag, so you 
should be ok.

I suspect that because you are using the PRE tag that your special characters 
might be ok, but I'm sure I've had problems when doing assembly stuff in PRE 
that I still had to convert stuff to the xxx; format.

Cheers,
Norman.

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Re: [ql-users] Abacus to HTML

2006-02-24 Thread P Witte
Dilwyn Jones writes:

  I need to convert an Abacus spreadsheet into HTML, preferably as a
  table or monospaced HTML text.
 Hi Dilwyn,
 You could try 'DBF2HTM' (Per Witte website) which converts Archive
 DBF-files to HTLM tables.
 Export your ABACUS file, import it in ARCHIVE and use DBF2HTM
 
 François Van Emelen
 My best idea so far has been to create an HTML-generating printer_dat
 for Xchange, which I hope to put on my website tonight.

A slightly different take on this, with Super/Sub scripts used to define 
hyper links, can be found right at the end of my article on \Printer Drivers 
under the section called \Update March 2000, for those who are interested in 
exploring this further. The address is still 
http://knoware.mysite.freeserve.com/index.html. Navigate to 
\Programs\Articles

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Re: [ql-users] Abacus to HTML

2006-02-24 Thread Dilwyn Jones

 
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 Date: 2006/02/24 Fri AM 08:02:57 GMT
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 Subject: Re: [ql-users] Abacus to HTML
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My best idea so far has been to create an HTML-generating printer_dat
  for Xchange, which I hope to put on my website tonight.
 
 What a cunning idea - I like it !
He he :-)
Thank Marcel, because of his hack of Xchange 3.90M and N I was on an Xchange 
wavelength.

  translates: as required, e.g. £ to 163.
 
 This might be difficult. You can find a list (incomplete unfortunately) on my 
 HTML website (www.bountiful.demon.co.uk/html/index.html) for the 'special 
 characters' but basically you will probably also need :
 
 '' = lt;
 '' = gt;
 '' = amp;
 
 The other problem you might suffer from is multiple spaces and newlines (is 
 that possible in Abacus - except that you are using the PRE tag, so you 
 should be ok.
 
 I suspect that because you are using the PRE tag that your special 
 characters might be ok, but I'm sure I've had problems when doing assembly 
 stuff in PRE that I still had to convert stuff to the xxx; format.
Xchange allows up to 50 translates, but the driver can only be 286 bytes total 
IIRC, so as the lengthy pre and post ambles took up a good chunk of this, I 
think it's limited to a couple of dozen translates of the most common accented 
characters. Using PRE text seems to cope with most simple things, good enough 
for what I wanted. You can see a sample of what html_dat produced on 
www.dilwyn.uk6.net/versions/index.html which links ot the Abacus spreadsheet in 
which I keep my version numbers list and to a html-ised version for comparison.

Not all of the QL character set has equivalents, but most does. The easy option 
is to translate say up arrow to [UP] (OK, cheating I know, but so what)
Dilwyn

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Re: [ql-users] Abacus to HTML

2006-02-24 Thread Dilwyn Jones
My Doc2Html program does something similar as well. In this particular case the 
html_dat driver for Abacus did what I needed without a second program being 
needed, but thanks for that.
Dilwyn
 
 From: P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2006/02/24 Fri AM 09:26:45 GMT
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ql-users] Abacus to HTML
 
 Dilwyn Jones writes:
 
   I need to convert an Abacus spreadsheet into HTML, preferably as a
   table or monospaced HTML text.
  Hi Dilwyn,
  You could try 'DBF2HTM' (Per Witte website) which converts Archive
  DBF-files to HTLM tables.
  Export your ABACUS file, import it in ARCHIVE and use DBF2HTM
  
  François Van Emelen
  My best idea so far has been to create an HTML-generating printer_dat
  for Xchange, which I hope to put on my website tonight.
 
 A slightly different take on this, with Super/Sub scripts used to define 
 hyper links, can be found right at the end of my article on \Printer Drivers 
 under the section called \Update March 2000, for those who are interested in 
 exploring this further. The address is still 
 http://knoware.mysite.freeserve.com/index.html. Navigate to 
 \Programs\Articles
 
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Re: [ql-users] Abacus to HTML

2006-02-24 Thread P Witte
Dilwyn Jones writes:

 My Doc2Html program does something similar as well. In this particular
 case the html_dat driver for Abacus did what I needed without a second
 program being needed, but thanks for that.


   My best idea so far has been to create an HTML-generating printer_dat
   for Xchange, which I hope to put on my website tonight.
 
  A slightly different take on this, with Super/Sub scripts used to define
  hyper links, can be found right at the end of my article on \Printer
  Drivers
  under the section called \Update March 2000, for those who are
  interested in
  exploring this further. The address is still
  http://knoware.mysite.freeserve.com/index.html. Navigate to
  \Programs\Articles

Im aware of Doc2Html. Like you, I was talking about a simple printer driver.

In practise, you dont need to use up all that space in the pre/post amble. 
Most browsers should cope with a simple

html
bla bla
/html

So, if you need more space for Translates etc, just cut them right to the 
bone. Both Firefox and IE even correctly display

html
titleTitle/title
pre
bla bla
/pre
/html

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Re: [ql-users] Abacus to HTML

2006-02-23 Thread Dilwyn Jones
 I need to convert an Abacus spreadsheet into HTML, preferably as a
 table or monospaced HTML text.
Hi Dilwyn,
You could try 'DBF2HTM' (Per Witte website) which converts Archive
DBF-files to HTLM tables.
Export your ABACUS file, import it in ARCHIVE and use DBF2HTM

François Van Emelen
My best idea so far has been to create an HTML-generating printer_dat
for Xchange, which I hope to put on my website tonight.

Following Marcel's reminder recently, Xchange Abacus can have 3
different named drivers:

1. Task name
2. abba_dat (for Abacus, or archv_dat for Archive or quil_dat for
Quill)
3. Xchange_dat.

Xchange finds them in the help drive (usually the PROG_USE default
drive). My approach was to create a printer_dat file called html_dat
which is placed in the Xchange directory. It has to be Xchange, the
original Quill, Abacus etc don't allow long enough strings in the
printer_dat. In fact, you have to use the uncompiled pedit_bas program
to avoid string input length problems, then make a printer_dat called
html_dat containing the following (I hope these tags survive email,
I'm trying to send as plain text!):

preamble: HTMLHEADTITLEXch2Html/TITLE/HEADBODYPRE
postamble: /PRE/BODY/HTML

bold on: b
bold off: /b

underline on: u
underline off: /u

subscript on: sub
subscript off: /sub

superscript on: sup
superscript off: /sup

translates: as required, e.g. £ to 163.

In Xchange's openign Task Control screen, start a copy of Abacus and 
give it the task name html. This prints using the printer driver 
html_dat, print to file and voila! You get a fairly basic html file 
direct from Abacus. Although I haven't tried it, I think it should 
work with Quill or Archive if suitably renamed (quill_dat for Quill, 
archv_dat for Archive).

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Re: [ql-users] Abacus to HTML

2006-02-22 Thread François Van Emelen
Dilwyn Jones schreef:
 I need to convert an Abacus spreadsheet into HTML, preferably as a 
 table or monospaced HTML text.
 
 Anyone know if there is a program to do this - I seem to remember that 
 there is, in fact I'm pretty certain there is  (it's probably on my 
 website or PD CD even!) but I'm blowed if I can remember who did it or 
 what it was called!
 
 I suppose if I exported the Abacus spreadsheet to Quill to get text in 
 columns, then added a basic HTML header/body with a monospace text 
 command that would do.
 
 Basically, what I'm up to is following John Gilpin's lead, I've put a 
 list of the programs I've written with version numbers, release dates, 
 requirements (PE, TK2, etc) into a spreadsheet which I'd like to put 
 online with an option to view it online (hence the HTML) or to 
 download as an Abacus or zipped Abacus file.
 
 I can probably write a basic program to add the necessary HTML to the 
 exported spreadsheet, but if anyone has already done something similar 
 it'll save me reinventing the wheel!
 
Hi Dilwyn,
You could try 'DBF2HTM' (Per Witte website) which converts Archive 
DBF-files to HTLM tables.
Export your ABACUS file, import it in ARCHIVE and use DBF2HTM

François Van Emelen

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Re: [ql-users] Abacus to HTML

2006-02-22 Thread David Tubbs
At 20:51 22/02/2006 +, you wrote:
Basically, what I'm up to is following John Gilpin's lead, I've put a
list of the programs I've written with version numbers, release dates,
requirements (PE, TK2, etc) into a spreadsheet which I'd like to put
online with an option to view it online (hence the HTML) or to
download as an Abacus or zipped Abacus file.

The subject cropped some months ago, Malcom Cadman I think.
May/05 - quote.

Then there are the compatibility issues with older software running on 
newer hardware or emulators.

What do people want to see happen ?

Malcolm Cadman

My suggestion:-

save below as a csv
Software,Ver nnn,HARDWARE - OS,,
,,QL128,Cumana,CST,Medic,GoldCard,SupGoldCd,Qubide,Q40,Q60 
,Qlay,Qlay2k,QPC,QPC2,Qlem,uQLx
Utilities

TK2_ext
PtrGen
WMAN
RAMPRT
XTRAS
etc

Progs

Quill
Abacus
Editor
etc

A csv file is the most easyly used format.

The same thought comes to mind when thinking of all those KEYWORDs.
I thought my 400 was enough (12 years ago).

Needed would be columns for :-
Keyword
Toolkit or Programme source
Purpose
Example usage, syntax.



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