Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures

2011-03-06 Thread David Bapst
: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 15:36:13 +0100     From: Enrico Rezendeenrico.reze...@uab.cat     Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures     To: David Bapstdwba...@uchicago.edu     Cc: R Sig Phylo Listservr-sig-phylo@r-project.org     David,     on the top of my head, if no species

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures

2011-03-06 Thread Marguerite Butler
and Rose, 2009 http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/10604.php Original message Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 15:36:13 +0100 From: Enrico Rezendeenrico.reze...@uab.cat Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures To: David Bapstdwba...@uchicago.edu Cc

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures

2011-03-05 Thread Enrico Rezende
David, on the top of my head, if no species measurement strictly corresponds to zero, you may log-transform the data. You may then simulate Brownian motion in log-transformed values, which will correspond to a boundary of zero in a linear scale (i.e., the more negative the log number, the

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures

2011-03-05 Thread tgarland
://www.biology.ucr.edu/people/faculty/Garland/GarlandPublications.html Garland and Rose, 2009 http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/10604.php Original message Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 15:36:13 +0100 From: Enrico Rezende enrico.reze...@uab.cat Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures

2011-03-05 Thread Liam J. Revell
Mar 2011 15:36:13 +0100 From: Enrico Rezendeenrico.reze...@uab.cat Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures To: David Bapstdwba...@uchicago.edu Cc: R Sig Phylo Listservr-sig-phylo@r-project.org David, on the top of my head, if no species

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures

2011-03-05 Thread Hilmar Lapp
Original message Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 19:28:26 +0100 From: Alejandro Gonzalez alejandro.gonza...@ebd.csic.es Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures To: tgarl...@ucr.edu Hello, Is there any plans, be it short-term or in the future, to implement

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures

2011-03-05 Thread Marguerite Butler
Garland and Rose, 2009 http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/10604.php Original message Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 15:36:13 +0100 From: Enrico Rezendeenrico.reze...@uab.cat Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures To: David Bapstdwba

Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures

2011-03-05 Thread Marguerite Butler
and Rose, 2009 http://www.ucpress.edu/books/pages/10604.php Original message Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 15:36:13 +0100 From: Enrico Rezendeenrico.reze...@uab.cat Subject: Re: [R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures To: David Bapstdwba...@uchicago.edu Cc: R

[R-sig-phylo] Dealing with Bounded Trait Measures

2011-03-04 Thread David Bapst
All- As far as I understand it, the vast majority of continuous character analyses assume that the trait is distributed normally and without bounds. Is there an appropriate transformation to for measurements of a trait that does have one or more bounds and where some taxa actually are at that