четверг, 25 июля 2019 г., 22:03:15 UTC+3 пользователь stewart mackenzie
написал:
> If you want to Racket2 popular make it easy for users to get the
> programmer's responsive applications and programmers will come in
> droves. Drop Chez, reimplement the Racket interpreter in Rust and
> target i
Hi there,
Based on my understanding, (bound-identifier=? id-a id-b) only returns true
if id-a would bind id-b AND id-b would bind id-a. Also based on my
understanding, id-a will bind id-b doesn't imply that id-b will bind id-a.
So, if I only want to check whether id-a will bind id-b, which func
> I've taught the exact same material at the start of a 3rd year CS PL
> course, and the students there didn't find the syntax as easy as one would
> hope for students with that much CS “experience”. In fact, unsurprisingly,
> many find the syntax as hard as expected for having trained on very
> di
If we want more women, or any other group of people, involved in Racket,
the only way to achieve this is to explain to this groups of people why do
they need Racket.
*(And openness and honesty is a great way to do it)*
And try to answer this question for ourselves.
What Racket can offer to this
A lot of interesting ideas, stewart. For now, I'll just highlight this
one, and a few bulleted comments:
stewart mackenzie wrote on 7/25/19 3:03 PM:
If you want to Racket2 popular make it easy for users to get the programmer's
responsive applications and programmers will come in droves. Drop
It is crucial to understand that "lowering barriers" can mean different
even opposite things.
You can lower barrier by helping someone to learn.
And you can actually "lower barrier" by diminishing the goal.
And when we talking about social interaction we must acknowledge that
people a different
I want expand on and make sure Maria's point doesn't get lost in that
firestorm over at [the case, and a proposal, for elegant syntax in
#lang racket2] . Maria is bang on the money imho (her email is copied
below mine)
JVM got popular because programmers didn't need to program C.
Javascript and B
On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 12:45:36 PM UTC-4, Matthew Flatt wrote:
>
> Reordered slightly:
>
> At Thu, 25 Jul 2019 09:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Brian Adkins wrote:
> > I know Chez had a reputation for being a fast implementation - was
> > performance the main criteria?
> > [...]
> > Were there oth
Atlas, I will have to think more about your message, but I think you're
right to suggest that FAANGs might be part of a problem. For example,
see yesterday's outreach email from a FAANG (quoted at end of this
email), posted as an apparent diversity initiative, to students of a
big-name CS depa
I never said that lowering barriers is lying or insulting.
I say that lowering barriers by lying (by making an impression instead of a
reality
demonstration) is really bad way to go.
If there is actual barriers, the work must be putted to improve on them,
and not to improve on showing that thi
Mr. Atlas, since this seems to be only your second contribution to the
racket-users list (the first was yesterday) I'm reluctant to impute much weight
to your views, since I can't verify that there's a sincere human behind them.
In any case, I can agree with you on the value of education. But t
Reordered slightly:
At Thu, 25 Jul 2019 09:04:29 -0700 (PDT), Brian Adkins wrote:
> I know Chez had a reputation for being a fast implementation - was
> performance the main criteria?
> [...]
> Were there other factors, in addition to
> performance, that uniquely qualified Chez?
Good performan
I'm curious about the process that resulted in selecting Chez Scheme as the
runtime for Racket.
I know Chez had a reputation for being a fast implementation - was
performance the main criteria? Were other Scheme implementations considered
& rejected? If so, why? Were there other factors, in ad
To whoever will implement a new syntax forRacket, may I give the following
resources. I really hope they are widely known and I am just stating the
obvious common knowledge.
There have been previous attempts of using an alternative syntax:
* M-expresisons - dating to the original McCarthy Lisp pa
1. To increase inclusiveness of some group of people, you educate people
from this group on the subject of lisp racket computer science etc.
2. By lowering "barriers" you just welcome someone who doesn't care for the
project and ruining community from inside.
3. By making a show about what projec
On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 7:46:11 PM UTC-7, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> Too bad we have to use #/ instead of / in ordinary Racket because / is
> already used for division. There are a lot more #/'s then divisions in
> a typical Racket program.
>
> Redefining div to mean division isn't a real
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