It was about 15 years ago, so I don't recall :-) I think it was a T217,
does that sound right? Their heavy touring rim at the time (mid-90's).
The Dyad had me worried as it doesn't have eyelets, but that has been a
non-issue.
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:15 PM, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com
I was wondering if the front-end geometry of the Kogswells in the test
affected the sweet spot range of tire sizes for each wheel size. It
seems that a set of similarly sized Rivendells in the three wheel
sizes could be found, and the same tires used.
Philip
On Apr 19, 7:03 pm, Tim McNamara
Beth:
I have 37mm (1 1/2) Paselas for a Rambouillet. I tend to ride at the same
speed on them as I do on 28 mm Conti Ultra Gatorskins. They are more
comfortable on coarse roads, and very reliable on wet roads.
Bruce
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Beth,
I have run Panaracer Pasela 26x1.25 on my All-Rounder and they felt
like skinny tires. I ran Ritchey 26x1.4 for many years, felt
smoother but measurably slower. I recently went to Panaracer Ribmo
26x2.0 for durability and flat resistance. Too few miles on the
Ribmos to judge them yet.
Hi all:
One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The
RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The
measurement is made from center of the cranks (the spindle of the
bottom bracket) to the top of the saddle.
Here are the questions. How many of you use
Been riding my Surly LHT with Big Apple 26x2.0 and am content. Had a
pair on the now departed Atlantis. Keep coming back to them for a
combination of cush, traction and cornering ability. Plus, they look
cool. Been running them at pretty high pressures, though.
Because of my weight and other
Regarding the question about Velocity Dyad rims:
I built up a set of wheels for my touring bike (Trek 520) with a Schmidt front
hub and an XT rear. Have been using them for more than a year with no problems.
I like them a lot and plan to use them on my planned Hunquapillar.
Steve Hemmelgarn
Jay:
After numerous saddle tweaks, I found that all my saddles ended up at 67 cm in
height from the BB center, and my PBH is 78, so I'd say the Riv formula works
really well for me. I measure through the center-line of the seat post. Moving
the saddle back or forward changes the measurement
On Apr 20, 1:50 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
I imagine that if you are going to get a Sam Hillborne, Rivendell is
going to recommend either the Velocity Dyad or Mavic 719 rims. The
Velocity Dyad's do not have a machined side wall. Machined side walls
are created by removing
Not a heavy rider, but would like to join the pro-Dyad chorus. The
Rock n' road has 40 spoke Dyads matched with Maxi Car hubs. The
wheels ride wonderful with full load or just me.
On Apr 20, 7:36 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 20, 1:50 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com
I like the Pasela 1.5 tires on my XO-1. I like the Pasela 1.75 on the tandem
too, and would like to try them on the XO someday. They fit fine--I tried it!
Them big, aero profile tandem rims looked sorta sporty on the B-stone...B-)
Steve
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On Apr 20, 2010, at 6:46 AM, Jay LePree wrote:
Hi all:
One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The
RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11.
There's a lot of variation in this and a lot of factors (e.g., how
far your saddle is pushed back),
The formula is spot on for me. PBH 81.5 SH 71.
I check it by putting the heel of my foot on the pedal with that crank
rotated to about 6 or 7 o'clock; if my leg is fairly straight and my
hips don't rock up/down while trying to keep my heel on the pedal,
then the saddle height is about right for
I found that Rivendell's formula SH - 10 or 11 puts the seat a tad low
for me. My experience has been PBH - 9.0 cm.I'm also positive
I'm not under-measuring my pbh, as I've measured it myself with one
other person, pulled up until it hurt, had it done at the LBS and it's
always the same
Excellent, glad folks can use some of this stuff! Everything is spoken for
except the 22T X 58BCD
chainringhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4490554719/- $10,
free shipping.
Also, the Trek 330
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4501357803/from previous
listings is still looking
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu
wrote:
On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 18:14 -0700, b hamon wrote:
1.5 isn't extraordinarily wide for a 559 to begin with. What's more,
going by the chart on p. 20 of BQ Spring 2010, the 'stable yet nimble'
zone for 559
From the other side of the range... My PBH is 86 but a SH somewhere
around 72.5-73cm works best for me. I always measure on the centerline
even though I'm one of those long femured people who slides the saddle
back, even with 71.5 degree SA's. I have had bike fitting done as
well and their
I believe from my experience that finding the right height, horizontal
position and tilt for a saddle is a matter of personal experience and
preference, with rules being simply a more convenient starting point than,
say, starting with your saddle resting on the top tube.
So the question becomes:
Here's a Sugino crank to consider.
http://www.velo-orange.com/suoldlotr.html
I believe the pins and ramps are not a big deal if the front
derailleur is friction, not STI or similar. The following is from
Peter White's web site, and might also be useful.
Having just made the transition from my 2007 Salsa Casseroll Triple
featuring stock / full Shimano STI 105 shifting to my Atlantis with
bar end shifters / Campy FD / Deore XT RD / Sugino XD2 triple I can
say I actually like the friction shifting better but find no
appreciable difference in ramps
I would like to echo Patrick's thoughts. Beth, Patrick, and I are all
riding Rivendell 26ers, with higher trail than the Kogswells used in
the BQ tests. My bike is a 1996 Allrounder. After several tries at
smaller tires (Such as Ritchey Tom Slicks) and larger tires (such as
Marathon XRs), I found
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote:
Hi all:
One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The
RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The
measurement is made from center of the cranks (the spindle of the
bottom
It worked perfectly for me; 89.2 PBH and settled on a saddle height of
79.3.
On Apr 20, 5:46 am, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote:
Hi all:
One of the things I always wanted to know but was afraid to ask. The
RBW method for determining saddle height is PBH - 10 to 11. The
measurement
Works well for me:
PBH: 89cm, Saddle Height 79cm.
If I go through all the LeMond formulas (which I believe came from a
French cycling team he road for early on) I end up at 79cm.
Angus
On Apr 20, 6:46 am, Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net wrote:
Hi all:
One of the things I always wanted to
PBH: 91cm, SH: 80cm.
I have four bikes and the saddle is at the same height on all of them.
I ride two of the bikes with platform pedals and two with SPDs. Like
others have said, the RBW system is a great starting place and get
definitely get you close to where you want to be. Good luck.
--mike
My PBH: 87cm, SH: 76cm. 11cm difference
My saddle height was established 10 years ago during two training camps and
bike fits at the Boulder Center for Sports Medicine with Dr Andy Pruitt and has
been spot on for my comfort ever since. There is no black magic to Rivendell's
fit formula, it's
Any new rumors on the Amos?
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..ok so besides than the aqueducts sanitation, roads, medicine,
education, public health, irrigation what have the Romans ever done
for US!
Life of Brian
On Apr 19, 5:54 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
Costly but worth the money.
Gee, then the relatively inexpensive Shimanos, with
Am I correct in thinking the largest tires you can fit with fenders on
the Romulus are 28s, and without fenders 37s?
I _think_ this is why I need a 650b bike: Using the tire pressure
spreadsheet I need at least a 35mm tire to get the rear tire down into
the normal range of pressure. I'm
I've asked about the tire clearance limits of the Rom before and almost
everyone says with fenders, no bigger than 32s. Although _maybe_ this changes
with the new Paul Racer M…?
It sounds like a Hillborne or Hilsen would fit your needs, Rob. :)
-nathan
On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Rob
on 4/20/10 3:06 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
What's an alternative to the Sugino XD2 that has ramps and pins (all
silver finish of course).
Just a point that the ramps/pins are a function of the chainrings, not the
crank.
How big a difference is there with no ramps and
Hi Rob,
I have no problem fitting SKS fenders with 700 x 32 Panaracer Pasela tires
on both my 59 Romulus bikes. I had the same question as you and I called
Riv World HQ and spoke with Keven who said, Do it.
I did.
Write to me if you want to see pictures.
-jb
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:28 PM,
I'm curious about the price for the Trek? Sorry if I overlooked it in
this post somewhere...
Thanks!
Trent
On Apr 20, 9:13 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Excellent, glad folks can use some of this stuff! Everything is spoken for
except the 22T X 58BCD
Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
I would like to echo Patrick's thoughts. Beth, Patrick, and I are all
riding Rivendell 26ers, with higher trail than the Kogswells used in
the BQ tests.
I am not an expert on bike gemometry. That said, I keep wondering if
there is a correlation between wheel size
It's going to be pink.
On Apr 20, 12:22 pm, D. Goff dbg...@mac.com wrote:
Any new rumors on the Amos?
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PBH minus 10, measured to the top of the saddle works great for me.
Jim D. Massachusetts
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From: Jay LePree lep...@optonline.net
Subject: [RBW] RBW Saddle Height question
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date:
I've received feedback that the photos on Flickr came up pretty
small. Here's a second go:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39219...@n06/?saved=1
Also, per request, our route in Henry Coe looked something like this:
From Hwy 138-- County line fire Road
--the peak of Bear Mountain--Poverty
Enough gossip like that and you might force HQ to put out some
clarification. I did almost fall over though.
On Apr 20, 2:43 pm, sjauch sja...@gmail.com wrote:
It's going to be pink.
On Apr 20, 12:22 pm, D. Goff dbg...@mac.com wrote:
Any new rumors on the Amos?
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I am really really in like with the photo of the Hunqapillar on the
Rivendell site. I have decided that I want to make my next bike
similar to this one with nice fat tires a Bullmoose bars.
http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3453/Vaughn_s_Quarterbest.jpg
I kinda like the colors
On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Beth H wrote:
Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
I would like to echo Patrick's thoughts. Beth, Patrick, and I are all
riding Rivendell 26ers, with higher trail than the Kogswells used in
the BQ tests.
I am not an expert on bike gemometry. That said, I keep
On Apr 20, 2010, at 2:06 PM, CycloFiend wrote:
Hmmm... such spoke/failures (particularly without any pinch
flatting) would
point me back to looking at the dropout alignment or rear triangle
alignment
on the frame. You can get a sense of frame alignment with the
string test
described on
Hmmm - good question. I never considered that there could be an
alignment issue. Everything else seems to indicate that it's well
aligned - its an AHH with extremely quiet drivetrain, visually
straight from the back, and the ride is smooth, stable and heavenly.
The tires align perfectly with the
Beautiful, Darin. I really like seeing a beautiful classic put
together with good, affordable parts.
Happy trails,
michael
On Apr 20, 3:08 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote:
My Sam Hillborne is complete with all accessories
http://gallery.me.com/dbgoff#18
Frameset: Rivendell Sam
It's an '88, made with Reynolds 531 tubes. Brooks saddle, 46cm Nitto
Noodles Tech Dlx stem. Handbuild Open Sport (MA3) wheel with flip-flop
hub and two freewheels. Pump, lock, Jandd bags included. $300 plus
shipping. I'm getting ready to part it out ($100 frame, $100 wheelset,
probably
http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/230
Wondering if it is the fixed gear mtn bike from the San Diego Show?
Can not imagine it would be something to take a loss on. Even with
the current state of the union something that created that much drool
must have value. No telling if that is the one
I don't think I will be thrashing it really at all but I do want a
bike set up for slightly rougher trails. I wasn't sure if it would be
overkill to set up a country bike frame in this manner. I have a
Bleriot and it doesn't seem like it would be a great frame to set up
in this manner. I think
I asked Grant to re-think the idea of stripping re-painting and
selling at a loss. Unless it's something really weird, I can't
imagine there isn't someone on this list who would be interested, or
know someone who may be interested. Looking forward to the pix. I'll
probably never find the minor
That was exactly my thought since he used the term Bizarro. If the
Bizarro bike as GP called it is so unlike a Riv that they need to
strip decals and paint it before they take a loss on it, then why
would they allow it to be shown at the San Diego Show? Unless it just
slipped their mind to pull
My Atlantis came with ramps pins on the Sugino. They are good rings
lasted me over 20k miles but I replaced with generic flat rings
because they were half the price. The 24 to 36 shift takes a bit more
thought with the flat rings but no big deal. With friction it's
pretty EZ to over-shift
Working on better pictures--unfortunately Mr. Nikon is in the shop,
again, so when he gets back we'll try for some better shots.
On Apr 20, 5:38 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote:
Whoa! We are going to need to see: 1) More pictures! 2) Sharp
pictures!
of that beauty.
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Not 100% sure about this, but didn't ramps/pins come about because of
indexed shifting?
I've got a few bikes with old TA rings (thin), and they shift great in
friction mode.
Alex
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Darin,
Cool - you're gonna enjoy that.
Alex
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Whatever it it, it certainly raises my curiosity level. I think
cosmetic details are important because I find bicycles beautiful,
functional art. But, I don't think that anything outside of a
horrible color would be cosmetic enough to prevent me from interest in
a bicycle. Oh, and one of my
Hi all:
Thanks for the responses and the clarifications. I will try to raise
my saddle gradually and just test how I feel. Again, I appreciate the
thoughtful responses.
Jay
On Apr 20, 6:14 pm, James Dinneen jfxdinn...@yahoo.com wrote:
PBH minus 10, measured to the top of the saddle works
PBH=94 cm, SH=83.5 cm at point of sit bones on B17 slammed all the way
back on seat post on my Sam Hill.
I like to use the method of putting the heels of your bare feet on the
pedals and setting seat height when your leg is fully extended at 6:00
position. For me, this works out to PBH- 10-11 cm
I'll add to the Dyad yap. I'm running a couple of machined 32H 700c
Dyads laced with 2.0 straight gauge to White Industry hubs built up by
Mark @ Hank + Frank's in Oakland. Bomb-proof. I'm now comin' in @
250 lbs. and hop curbs and railroad tracks (but have yet to jump the
draw-bridge) on my
I don't know if this is it, but it's the one that was at the San Diego
show: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/
Pacenti crown, cantis front, no brakes rear, horizontal fork ends (RIP
Sheldon), no shifter cable braze-ons, curvy chain stays.
I guess that is about one
I'm about to mount SKS P50's over the 700x45 Marathon Plus' on my
Atlantis.
The included 5mm bolts with the fenders don't quite fill the fork
mounting hole but a 6mm bolt seems fine. I recently installed some SKS
hardware on my XO-1 with Sheldon Fender Nuts / dremel tool so I'm
familiar with the
And no fender/rack eyelets! Ye gods and little fishes!
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Drawings ‹ all sorts
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:24 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know if this is it, but it's the one that was at the San Diego
show: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4512933760/sizes/l/
Pacenti crown, cantis front, no brakes rear, horizontal fork ends (RIP
Wow, that's one VERY cool bike. I bet it would be a real HOOT to
ride. I've been riding a custom made Co Motion steel frame, rigid
fork, front cantilever only bike. It's really an old regular off-
roader, but I converted to fixed gear using a White Industries ENO
hub. I also have a custom Phil
I don't think so, since the front is never indexed.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:52 PM, amoll68 amol...@comcast.net wrote:
Not 100% sure about this, but didn't ramps/pins come about because of
indexed shifting?
I've got a few bikes with old TA rings (thin), and they shift great in
friction
MTBs index the front.
Strangely, I tried a unpinned chainring, and couldn't get it to shift. It
was the middle ring of a triple.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:
I don't think so, since the front is never indexed.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 5:52 PM,
I think some of the early Shimano brifters had indexed front shifting
too. Didn't they? RX100...
Shaun Meehan
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:35 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
MTBs index the front.
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If the frame from the San Diego show is the frame in question, I
certainly don't see why they'd want to strip the paint. Great looking
bike!
Shaun Meehan
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Is that a Pacenti fork crown? It seems a fork crown like that would
be quite at home on a Hunqapillar or Bombadil!
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I would bet that the Hilborne is at least as rugged as the MB-1 and
MB-0, which saw lots of rougher trails.
jim m
wc ca
On Apr 20, 5:13 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote:
I don't think I will be thrashing it really at all but I do want a
bike set up for slightly rougher trails. I
well maybe they think it should have some canti brake studs in the
back? It does seem a little odd of a build... of course the JB paint
job is the cats pajamas!
~Mike~
On Apr 20, 8:10 pm, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:
Is that a Pacenti fork crown? It seems a fork crown like
I have a Hillborne and am running some 700 x 40 Schwalbe Smart Sam
knobbies.. it could easily take a 45-47mm knobbie w/o fenders. And
I've ridden it on some pretty techy singletrack in this mode and as a
result I hardly ever take out my 29er an more.
Hi,
I am looking for a wider tire than my Jack Brown Greens, that is also
supple and has low rolling resistance (yes, a 700C Hetre). Does anyone
have experience with 2 out of these 3 tires and can compare them both
in terms of actual width and ride quality?
There have been a couple of posts
I had a set of Pasela 35s for about a year and they were okay. When I
replaced the rear I got a lemon as the sidewall gave way pretty
quickly. I've been using Panaracer T-serves in 35 and like them a lot.
Same tread as a Pasela but with tougher sidewalls. I've used them for
road rides, gravel road
I have the 35mm Pasela Tourguards, and they indeed measure 36mm. Sidewalls
go before the tread, but cheap enough to not be too upset by that. I ride
them EVERYWHERE so they get beat up pretty good. They are very supple,
which I love about them.
Don't forget to add the Marathon Supremes to your
Gernot:
Your selection ought to consider what kinds of abuse your tires see
off-road. I've used Paselas, T-Servs, and now Marathon Supremes. The
Paselas ride nice but the sidewalls take a beating in gravel, rocks,
etc. I went with T-Servs to address that problem and they are much
more rugged.
ditto, I threw the 35mm Pasela TG's on my Hillborne recently as the
knobbie Smart Sams are slow on pavement. They ride very nicely and
handle dirt pretty well. They wash out in sandy stuff compared to the
Smart Sams though.
I'm in the same boat as you and about ready to take the plunge on the
38
If there was a minor cosmetic flaw on that bike in San Diego, it was
missed by at least a dozen (or two) critical inspectors. The
detailing is fantastic! As to sizing, Ken, you can always make 'em
bigger; they're a bit harder to shrink.
dougP
On Apr 20, 5:59 pm, Ken Yokanovich
You could just go with the basic wire bead Marathon that Riv sells:
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/schwalbe-marathon/10-068
They're not supple but they're not that bad, especially when you
consider the price. The model Riv sells measures 41 so it should fit
on the Hillborne. They're nice
I just re-assembled a bike with STI for someone who had it shipped
(that's a disclaimer so no one thinks I really know anything about the
stuff). In checking that everything worked, the front shifts 1 ring
for each push of the lever. The lever must be released and return to
rest before shifting
pbh: 91.5
saddle height: currently 83cm
I tend to move my saddle height around between 83cm-84cm depending on
how my knees are feeling. Last year, I was recovering from a broken
leg, and I had to lower it a bit to 83cm.
How many of you use this formula?
Not me. I wasn't aware of it. My
On Apr 20, 10:09 am, RM b...@san.rr.com wrote:
My PBH: 87cm, SH: 76cm. 11cm difference
My saddle height was established 10 years ago during two training camps and
bike fits at the Boulder Center for Sports Medicine with Dr Andy Pruitt and
has been spot on for my comfort ever since. There is
Thanks for the replies. Richard, thanks for the velo orange link.
I've read Peter White's article before, but I'm going to read it
again.
I was under the impression that bar end shifters had two modes: index
and friction. If the bar end shifters are in index mode for the front
derailleur, do
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