Implementation Task Force

2007-07-02 Thread Teresa Knapp
To whom it may concern, I was at the RDA Update forum at annual, and heard there was a task force being formed for helping ease the implementation. Mr. Hall (PLA Liaison) asked if I would like to volunteer, and I am considering doing so. My director and my husband are supportive of this, but

Wrong model--entity relationship?

2007-07-02 Thread Martha Yee
When FRBR first came out, we approved, because it was the first time there had been an attempt to standardize the definitions of work and edition that we had been using for hundreds of years, and we thought these definitions would help us communicate more effectively with system design people.

Wrong model--RDF?

2007-07-02 Thread Martha Yee
Our previous posting concerned the entity-relationship model underlying FRBR. The linking concerns we are about to discuss relate to both the RDF model and to the RDA implementation of FRBR's model. The RDA developers are now beginning to look to the RDF specifications for the semantic web

Re: Wrong model--RDF?

2007-07-02 Thread Simon Spero
On 7/2/07, Martha Yee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When we look at the RDF specifications themselves ( http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-concepts/), they might as well be written in Greek for all of the information they convey to us. However, just from using the web, we can see that links over the web

Re: Wrong model--RDF?

2007-07-02 Thread Simon Spero
On 7/2/07, Simon Spero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a more contrived example, one could specify that an Expression that is a Parody must express a Work that has more than one Expression. Oops - I meant to say an Expression that is a Translation. I blame 6 hours on the phone with ATT.

Re: Wrong model--RDF?

2007-07-02 Thread Layne, Sara
So ... with apologies in advance for asking a possibly ignorant question ... can you make the following statement in RDF? That is, can the same sort of entity be both a subject and an object? Work2 is a parody of Work1 And you would not need to make, in addition, a statement like

Re: Wrong model--entity relationship?

2007-07-02 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:37 PM, Martha Yee wrote: Can anyone on this list point us to working entity-relationship model applications accessible over the web in which we can see one entity being used in the user-readable string that identifies another entity in all displays (both lists and single

Re: Wrong model--RDF?

2007-07-02 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Again here I'm having trouble figuring out how to express what I'm used to being so obvious that I don't put it in words--because of my particular training and experience, it is indeed not to be expected that others with different training and experience will see the same thing. But I can

Re: Wrong model--RDF?

2007-07-02 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Exactly. RDF is a very flexible framework, and in a particular RDF application you could make such a statement, and you would indeed not need to make the reciprocal statement---and the computer scientists, software engineers, and RDF-istas would say that you SHOULD not make the reciprocal

Re: linking word element needed

2007-07-02 Thread J. McRee Elrod
But it would perpetuate one of the nastiest MARC21 features: the punctuation at the field or subfield end. Why not include it in $i? Mac