Re: [RDA-L] approzimately in access points

2013-07-05 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
I agree that the heading -approximately 250 borders on incoherence. died circa 250 is much less ambiguous. Do users really not know what ca. or circa means? It's in both Webster's and the OED. --Ben Benjamin Abrahamse Cataloging Coordinator Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT

Re: [RDA-L] Photocopy of a thesis in RDA?

2013-07-05 Thread Joan Wang
J. McRee (Mac) Elrod posted: It is a fiction that current print theses are manuscripts. They are now usually printouts from the electronic version which is online at the institution. Bit I don't think 264 2nd indicator 0 vs. 1 is worth fighting over. (Coding state university press

Re: [RDA-L] approzimately in access points

2013-07-05 Thread Kelleher, Martin
I think it’s more to do with “political correctness” than universality. less surprising, then, that you end up with obscurity rather than clarity as a result!! ;-) Martin Kelleher Metadata Manager University of Liverpool From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and

Re: [RDA-L] approzimately in access points

2013-07-05 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
If circa is too Latinate--even though, to reiterate, it is a perfectly good English word--then why not just around (which is essentially what circa means)? Agatha, Saint, died around 250. Tilting at RDA windmills, Ben Benjamin Abrahamse Cataloging Coordinator Acquisitions, Metadata and

Re: [RDA-L] approzimately in access points

2013-07-05 Thread John Hostage
We do have a separate field in the authority format to indicate uncertainty about dates. RDA distinguishes between probable and approximate dates. EDTF distinguishes between uncertain and approximate dates ( http://www.loc.gov/standards/datetime/pre-submission.html#uncertain ). EDTF dates

Re: [RDA-L] approximately in access points

2013-07-05 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Benjamin said: If circa is too Latinate--even though, to reiterate, it is a perfectly good English word--then why not just around (which is essentially what circa means)? While it is true RDA tends toward using longer words where shorter ones would be better *cf. some if those media phrases),

Re: [RDA-L] approximately in access points

2013-07-05 Thread M. E.
J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca wrote: A hyphens replacing b. or d. is fine with me, as as a question mark replace ca. (or approximately). RDA's question mark is the same AACR2's. It's AACR2's ca. altering to RDA's approximately that evokes consternation. Or do you see collapsing the

Re: [RDA-L] Abbreviating place of publication (was 264 question)

2013-07-05 Thread Northrup, Kristen D.
One thing we're regularly coming across in our copy cataloging is someone changing transcription to postal codes. For example, we get many records from Thorndike Press. It says Waterville, Maine on the item. DLC does a pre-pub with the transcription and that's how it stays in their catalog. But

Re: [RDA-L] Abbreviating place of publication (was 264 question)

2013-07-05 Thread M. E.
Northrup, Kristen D. knorth...@nd.gov wrote: One thing we're regularly coming across in our copy cataloging is someone changing transcription to postal codes. For example, we get many records from Thorndike Press. It says Waterville, Maine on the item. DLC does a pre-pub with the

Re: [RDA-L] Abbreviating place of publication (was 264 question)

2013-07-05 Thread Adam L. Schiff
I would contact OCLC Quality Control and let them know and ask them to contact the offending library. ^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 Seattle, WA 98195-2900 (206) 543-8409 (206) 685-8782 fax