Adam
Although you can't do this:
110 2_ $a Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons
386$a Nobel Prize winners $2 lcsh
100 1_ $a Aspect, Alain
386$a Balzan Prize winners $2 lcsh
You can put these terms in 368:
110 2_ $a Organisation for the Prohibition of
Mac said:
Our practice has changed drastically. For example, once Journal of
the American Chemical Society would be been entered under the Society.
Actually, it still is under the German rules.
RAK has a rule which is similar (yet not identical) to RDA's idea of
corporate bodies which are
28.10.2013 09:11, Heidrun Wiesenmüller:
RAK has a rule which is similar (yet not identical) to RDA's idea of
corporate bodies which are responsible for originating, issuing, or
causing to be issued. The definition in RAK is: a corporate body which
has either prepared *or* initiated and edited
Adam said:
I think the instruction was written as it is because only one place
may be used in a qualifier when needed to break a conflict.
Yes, that seems very plausible. One gets the feeling that the person(s)
who wrote the instruction were mainly thinking of access points and not
of the
Bernhard said:
28.10.2013 09:11, Heidrun Wiesenmüller:
RAK has a rule which is similar (yet not identical) to RDA's idea of
corporate bodies which are responsible for originating, issuing, or
causing to be issued. The definition in RAK is: a corporate body which
has either prepared *or*
Heidrun
I agree.
There's an inconsistency (inherited from FRAD) in the way places are defined as
attributes in Chapter 9, and in Chapter 11. For persons, they are enumerated as
separate elements for Place of Birth, Place of Death, Country Associated with
the Person, and Place of Residence,
Heidrun
I agree.
There's an inconsistency (inherited from FRAD) in the way places are defined as
attributes in Chapter 9, and in Chapter 11. For persons, they are enumerated as
separate elements for Place of Birth, Place of Death, Country Associated with
the Person, and Place of
28.10.2013 10:08, Heidrun Wiesenmüller:
The German community will need to learn to cope with this new freedom.
It won't be easy ;-)
But worse, it won't be better than what we used to have.
Freedom has a misleading positive connotation about it for these
matters. We have a conflict with
We've been discussing appropriate relationship designators for art technique
books when the creator is the author of the instructions and the artist who
created the demonstration pieces (whether watercolour or quilt).
Should they have two $e’s with artist and author or should they only be
Jenny,
The choice of relationship designator should be determined by the role in
relation to the resource being described.
The artist is the creator of the art work and if the art work were being
described, they may be designated artist. However, if the art work is being
used to illustrate
That makes sense, thank you Alan
Regards
Jenny
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Bernhard said:
.. or if the name would need to be added to the title proper in order
to individualize the title [in the case of a generic title] ...
When rules for serials changed, so did they for series. Field 410 is
not used, and 810 is much less used. What used to be 410 2
Hedrun said:
RAK has a rule which is similar (yet not identical) to RDA's idea of
corporate bodies which are responsible for originating, issuing, or
causing to be issued. The definition in RAK is: a corporate body which
has either prepared *or* initiated and edited an anonymous work. So,
Jenny said:
We've been discussing appropriate relationship designators for art techni=
que books when the creator is the author of the instructions and the arti=
st who created the demonstration pieces...
If the person both wrote the text and produced the art reproduced, and
both still image
OCLC #87852529 Understanding Employment Law
There are 3 authors, all listed as shown on title page (including the
Univ info) in the 245 tag $c Jeffrey M. Hirsch, Paul M. Secunda and
Richard A. Bales. This is the order shown on title page.
The record shows Bales, Richard A. as the author in the
The 1st ed. listed Bales as primary author so presumably whoever created the
record for the 2nd ed. preserved the main entry.
If you look at RDA 6.27.1.3 (Authorized access points ... Collaborative works)
you'll see that the person with principal responsibility is assigned to the
access point.
Richard,
Interesting, although I find it to be a bit of a stretch to say that using
terms like this in 368 $c connotes an “other designation” in the RDA sense.
Although the field is defined as “Other Attributes of Person or Corporate
Body”, I think I’d prefer a new subfield for “other
Thank you for putting this in language I could understand.
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Richard,
There are sub-elements for Location of Conference, Etc., and Location of Headquarters,
but in 11.3.1.1 these are just examples (note the instruction says .e.g.).
I did indeed notice the e.g. and found that odd as well. If location
of conference and location of headquarters are just
Jinny Wesson said concerning Understanding emplyment law, 2nd ed.:
The record shows Bales, Richard A. as the author in the 100 tag. I know
in AACR2, I always used the first author listed on title page. RDA
toolkit is confusing to me and I could not find information on this.
When cataloguing a
Mac said:
In our practice, it is not enough to have produced the work, the work
must be official. An art galley produces as exhibition catalogue,
but the main entry is the artist, due to the reproductions of the
artist's works being the prominent feature (336 still image precedes
336 text).
Hedrun said:
Corporate bodies are considered to be the originator if
A) they have prepared the work or
B) they have initiated and edited the work
What about prepared by Alpha Consulting for Beta Society? Often
societies, government offices, and other corporate bodies, commission
a study, e.g.,
Under RDA, revised editions are interpreted to be expressions of the original
edition, unless the creator who was used in the authorized access point for the
original edition is no longer named in the statement of responsibility. Go to
Isn't a festschrift by definition a compilation of of works by different
persons, families, or corporate bodies? As such it would fall under RDA
6.27.1.4 and the authorized access point would be the preferred title of the
compilation, so no corporate main entry.
Festschrift isn't used often
Greetings everyone
I have a feeling that this has been discussed before, but I am unable to locate
it
What is the feeling regarding multiple edition statements? We have books that
have completely separate statements such as '3rd edition' AND a little further
down the page 'New Zealand
Hi Everyone again
I have located the thread.
Cheers :)
Anne Laguna
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John said:
The first edition of Understanding employment law on LCCN 2007026152
had Bales named first. The 2nd ed. on LCCN 2013004371 had Bales
named 3rd, so the authorized access point for the work still consists
of his authorized access point in the 100 plus the title in the 245.
This is a
Anne Laguna asked:
What is the feeling regarding multiple edition statements?
No problem. Field 250 has been made repeating.
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