Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-23 Thread Mitchell, Michael
/ Resource Description and Access [RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] on behalf of Felix, Kyley [kfe...@parliament.wa.gov.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 21:29 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files John, Are you saying it's not necessary to put the 347 field in at all

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-23 Thread James Weinheimer
On 23/05/2013 14:33, Mitchell, Michael wrote: snip I'm looking at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd347.html and the first example under $b is *347* *##$a*text file*$b*PDF*$2*rda so I'm a little confused as to what you mean when you say a PDF file is not a text file. What

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-23 Thread Mitchell, Michael
/ Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of James Weinheimer Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:14 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files On 23/05/2013 14:33, Mitchell, Michael wrote: snip I'm looking at http://www.loc.gov/marc

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-23 Thread John Hostage
: Thursday, May 23, 2013 08:34 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files I'm looking at http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd347.html and the first example under $b is 347 ##$atext file$bPDF$2rda so I'm a little confused as to what you mean when you say a PDF file

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-23 Thread Mitchell, Michael
/ Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of John Hostage Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:27 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files I'm saying that the example in the MARC format is in error. RDA seems to be using text file

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-23 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files I'm saying that the example in the MARC format is in error. RDA seems to be using text file to mean any computer file that contains text, including binary files, but that conflicts with the normal meaning of text file. A typical PDF file

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-23 Thread Shorten, Jay
@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Adam Schiff Sent: 22 May 2013 13:30 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files Kyley, Agreed that your display in 300 field does look clear and informative. Our ILS vendors really do need to catch up with display of data in the new MARC

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-23 Thread Shorten, Jay
:30 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files Kyley, Agreed that your display in 300 field does look clear and informative. Our ILS vendors really do need to catch up with display of data in the new MARC fields. We are able at least to suppress the $2 rda, which

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-22 Thread Adam Schiff
Why not turn on the 34X fields for display in your catalog? This is where the data belongs in an RDA record. Adam Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Seattle, WA 98195-2900 From: Felix, Kyley Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:13 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-22 Thread Felix, Kyley
-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files Why not turn on the 34X fields for display in your catalog? This is where the data belongs in an RDA record. Adam Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Seattle, WA 98195-2900 From: Felix, Kyleymailto:kfe...@parliament.wa.gov.au

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-22 Thread John Hostage
The file types in RDA 3.19.2 do not convey anything that is not already conveyed by content type and media type, so there is no need for this element to be in RDA. In any event, a PDF file is not a text file as the term is commonly understood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_file)

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-22 Thread Adam Schiff
: Felix, Kyley Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 3:57 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files Hello Adam We have made a decision in this library not to show those fields as they may look like gobbledegook to the users. If the users could see the 347 field it would

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-22 Thread John Hostage
Description and Access [RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] on behalf of Felix, Kyley [kfe...@parliament.wa.gov.au] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 21:29 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files John, Are you saying it’s not necessary to put the 347 field in at all

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-22 Thread Felix, Kyley
Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of John Hostage Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013 11:23 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files Kyley, I'm saying that it's not necessary to give a file type as defined

Re: [RDA-L] Size of PDF files

2013-05-21 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Kyley Felix posted: 300 (10 a) 1 online resource (v, 23 pages), 840 KB : (20 b) text file, PDF. We would have in an RDA record: 300 $a1 PDF (v, 23 pages) :$c840 KB We find this simpler and easier to understand. Field 338 already has online resource, so we see no need to repeat it; 336