Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

2008-07-17 Thread James Weinheimer
I think you are right on these points. 79 pages is quite a bit to go through. There are some questions, as you and others have pointed out, and much of it is centered on the adoption of RDA. Since RDA hasn't been finished or adopted yet, it makes it rather difficult to even consider how to fulfill

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

2008-07-17 Thread Bryan Baldus
On Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:45 AM, James Weinheimer included the quote: 1.1.1.6 All: Demonstrate to publishers the business advantages of supplying complete and accurate metadata. There was recently a story at Book Business Extra, Are You Providing Poor Book Data? Executive Director Michael

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

2008-07-17 Thread Kelleher, Martin
This looks quite good! Here in the UK, the public and academic sectors are being encouraged to follow practice in the private sector, so if this takes good, it might be a good counterargument against those who like to write off the need for good cataloguing on the basis of the search engine

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

2008-07-17 Thread Armin Stephan
Of course, it's interesting to see, that booksellers and publishers are interested in better information in the bookselling process. But if You look on the ideas discussed http://www.bisg.org/docs/Best_Practices_Document.pdf You can see that booksellers are interested in a lot of data elements

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

2008-07-17 Thread Karen Coyle
Bryan, thanks for sending this along. The best practices document (http://www.bisg.org/docs/Best_Practices_Document.pdf) bears a striking resemblance to cataloging rules (which are, in effect, best practices themselves, although calling them rules makes them sound more mandatory than best

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

2008-07-17 Thread Kevin M. Randall
At 04:45 AM 7/17/2008, James Weinheimer wrote: I think that at the crux of the discussion are the FRBR user tasks. While everybody says, the user is the center and FRBR has these user tasks that everything is supposedly built on, I think they describe a bygone world. The information world has

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

2008-07-17 Thread Karen Coyle
Armin Stephan wrote: Of course, it's interesting to see, that booksellers and publishers are interested in better information in the bookselling process. But if You look on the ideas discussed http://www.bisg.org/docs/Best_Practices_Document.pdf You can see that booksellers are interested in

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

2008-07-17 Thread Kevin M. Randall
At 10:54 AM 7/17/2008, Karen Coyle wrote: Kevin M. Randall wrote: Those tasks are universal, have been so since the beginning of time, Well, that's saying a lot, and I just have to disagree. Although these four tasks are the tasks that *library catalogs* respond to, they are not the only

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

2008-07-17 Thread Kevin M. Randall
At 11:03 AM 7/17/2008, Harden, Jean wrote: An element compilers of library cataloging rules could perhaps learn from: These best practices give an explicit business case for each data element (at least, each one I looked at). These are short paragraphs that essentially specify the business

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

2008-07-17 Thread Karen Coyle
Kevin M. Randall wrote: Serendipity, by its very nature, takes care of itself. Uh, really? It's not random, but it is social. And so is knowledge and information seeking. So I don't see why libraries shouldn't be part of that society. There's nothing that you can or can't do to help it. On

[RDA-L] Presentations from the ALA RDA Implementation Task Force program at ALA Annual

2008-07-17 Thread Patton,Glenn
My apologies for being so long in responding to comments from earlier in the week. Program organizers and presenters at the recent ALA conference were asked to use the ALA Presentations wiki as a means of making presentations, handouts and other information available to conference attendees.

[RDA-L] ALA Annual Conference - RDA Update Forum - PowerPoint posted

2008-07-17 Thread Patrick Hogan
I have posted Nannette Naught's presentation at the RDA Update Forum to ALA conference materials archive at: http://presentations.ala.org Click on Saturday, June 28, then click on 10:30 a.m. Start Time, scroll to find the listing for the RDA update forum. Nannette Naught of IMT

Re: [RDA-L] Presentations from the ALA RDA Implementation Task Force program at ALA Annual

2008-07-17 Thread Patton,Glenn
A quick update ... thanks to help from ALA colleagues, I have been able to simplify the links to these presentations. --Glenn From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patton,Glenn Sent:

Re: [RDA-L] Library of Congress response to LCWG

2008-07-17 Thread Kevin M. Randall
At 01:05 PM 7/17/2008, Karen Coyle wrote: Kevin M. Randall wrote: Serendipity, by its very nature, takes care of itself. Uh, really? It's not random, but it is social. And so is knowledge and information seeking. So I don't see why libraries shouldn't be part of that society. I guess what