Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-03-02 Thread Deborah Fritz
[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 5:31 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants The wise Deborah said: I agree with Thomas that the authors of the articles in this compilation of articles

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-03-01 Thread Deborah Fritz
-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Brenndorfer, Thomas Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:46 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants I believe this is related to the removal of the limitation on the number of added entries in AACR2 21.7B

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants--Pre-existing poem

2013-03-01 Thread Deborah Fritz
Of Bernadette Mary O'Reilly Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:59 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants Hello, I want to provide a 'model' record for training purposes for a resource which is a dictionary of biography. It has

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants--Pre-existing poem

2013-03-01 Thread Cindy Wolff
: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Bernadette Mary O'Reilly Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:59 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants Hello

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants--Pre-existing poem

2013-03-01 Thread Wayne Richter
-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Deborah Fritz Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 12:57 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants--Pre-existing poem Bernadette asked: And if a composer sets a pre-existing poem to music, what relator term should the poet get

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants--Pre-existing poem

2013-03-01 Thread Deborah Fritz
and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Wayne Richter Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 5:21 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants--Pre-existing poem And for a really complicated situation how about Mahler’s Das Lied von der

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-03-01 Thread J. McRee Elrod
The wise Deborah said: I agree with Thomas that the authors of the articles in this compilation of articles are co-creators ... So for whom would you use $e contributor, or $4 ctb, if not for the writers of portions of a compilation? I fear using $e author or $4 aut will result in the first

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants (fwd)

2013-03-01 Thread M. E.
M. E. m.k.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: 19.3: Other Person, Family, and Corporate Body Associated with a Work Designator: other (work) Example: 700 1- Doe, John, $e other (work) 21.6: Other Person, Family, and Corporate Body Associated with a Manifestation Designator: other (manifestation) 22.4:

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants (fwd)

2013-02-28 Thread M. E.
J. McRee Elrod m...@slc.bc.ca wrote: I said: We need a $e term and $4 code for contributor. Could someone with the appropriate skills and connections propose the addition of contributor to RDA relationship terms ... It's already in RDA: see 20.2. It's just not explicitly listed in RDA

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-02-27 Thread Bernadette Mary O'Reilly
:56 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants Multiple creators and aggregate works are covered in RDA 19.1.2: If the resource being described contains two or more works associated with different persons, families, or corporate bodies

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-02-27 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants Interesting point, but I’m not sure about the reading of 19.1.2. Does it really mean that creators of components may be treated as co-creators of the aggregate (which would presumably mean that they could have creator-level relators

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-02-27 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Bernadette said: Interesting point, but I'm not sure about the reading of 19.1.2. Does it really mean that creators of components may be treated as co-creators of the aggregate ... I think not. That would result in main/prime entry under the first mentioned author of a part. For analytic

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants (fwd)

2013-02-27 Thread J. McRee Elrod
I said: We need a $e term and $4 code for contributor. Could someone with the appropriate skills and connections propose the addition of contributor to RDA relationship terms, and cnt Contributor to the MARC code list? They are needed for writers of parts of collections, when those parts don't

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-02-26 Thread Bernadette Mary O'Reilly
0EW. *** From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Sean Chen Sent: 26 February 2013 04:44 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-02-26 Thread Brenndorfer, Thomas
Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Bernadette Mary O'Reilly Sent: February-26-13 4:23 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants Thanks, Sean. That tends to confirm my

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-02-25 Thread Bernadette Mary O'Reilly
] Relators for contributors and consultants Bernadette asked: ,,, And what about the contributors? There is: $e writer of added text [MRI: consider writer] or the code: $4 wam Writer of accompanying material Neither of which is spot on. Perhaps we should request contributor

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-02-25 Thread Michael Cohen
and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod Sent: 25 February 2013 06:08 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants Bernadette asked: ,,, And what about the contributors

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-02-25 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
-Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Michael Cohen Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 3:00 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-02-25 Thread Sean Chen
Bernadette, My understanding is that the relator term author is meant to be related to a creator of a work. In the model you are describing the contributing authors aren't the creator of the described work which is the dictionary of biography. I think general practice is not to delve into the

Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants

2013-02-24 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Bernadette asked: ,,, And what about the contributors? There is: $e writer of added text [MRI: consider writer] or the code: $4 wam Writer of accompanying material Neither of which is spot on. Perhaps we should request contributor? __ __ J. McRee (Mac) Elrod (m...@slc.bc.ca)