[RDA-L] 240 uniform title

2013-12-03 Thread FOGLER, PATRICIA A GS-11 USAF AETC AUL/LTSC
I'm trying to explain the use of a 240 uniform title in a bibliographic record clearly to my staff. I have a tenuous grasp on uniform titles and welcome any direction to specific training in depth about the choices of MARC tags in different situations. I understand that the title in question

Re: [RDA-L] Faculty in 7.9.3.3

2013-12-03 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
I agree that degree-granting institution doesn't really fit for the department in which a thesis was prepared, although it's certainly very useful to record this relationship. There doesn't seem to be anything else which can be used: Host institution or sponsoring body would certainly be a far

Re: [RDA-L] Faculty in 7.9.3.3

2013-12-03 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
John, I think the RDA instruction was probably worded that way to allow freedom to record whatever feels most useful and to take into account varying amounts of information available. In most cases it's enough to record the university name, but some libraries feel very particular about

Re: [RDA-L] Faculty in 7.9.3.3

2013-12-03 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Mac, Another of those ambiguous English words. It can mean the teaching staff of an educational institution. But in this context, it means a subunit of a university which grants degrees. In other words, the body which granted the degree should be in 502. $b. (...) The institution in

[RDA-L] Habilitation theses

2013-12-03 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
On a related note: The other day, we were wondering how habilitation theses should be treated under RDA. These are quite common in Germany. In case you're not familiar with this European concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habilitation Some universities grant the academic degree of Dr.

Re: [RDA-L] Habilitation theses

2013-12-03 Thread M. E.
Heidrun Wiesenmüller wiesenmuel...@hdm-stuttgart.de wrote: The other day, we were wondering how habilitation theses should be treated under RDA. These are quite common in Germany. In case you're not familiar with this European concept: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habilitation I don't have

Re: [RDA-L] Habilitation theses

2013-12-03 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
Since habilitation is not an Anglo-American institution, I would be surprised indeed if RDA discusses it. (Just to confirm--searching the Toolkit for habilitation or any of its variants returns no hits.) So I think this is an area where the (Continental) European cataloging community will have

Re: [RDA-L] Faculty in 7.9.3.3

2013-12-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Heidrun asked: Have you got a good example for such a school/faculty which actually grants its own degrees ... When next in my doctor's office, I will check his degree on the wall. We will note and trace (500/710) the department, and faculty adviser (500/700$epraeses), if the client wishes,

Re: [RDA-L] 240 uniform title

2013-12-03 Thread Adam Schiff
Patricia, If the combination of author + title is identical to another work then a 240 would be needed to differentiate this work from others. Typically only a year is used, not year month date. You only break the conflict when there already is one, not when you expect/suspect there will be

Re: [RDA-L] Habilitation theses

2013-12-03 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
Ben, You're right. We'll try and work something out. One idea which has already come up is defining an additional element which would express the character of a thesis instead of a specific degree. But isn't it amazing how these cultural differences pop up at the most unexpected places. I

Re: [RDA-L] Faculty in 7.9.3.3

2013-12-03 Thread John Hostage
I think we're looking at this a little too closely. This element grew out of a note in AACR2 practice. It was never intended to be so precise. Note that in 7.9.1.3 it says the name of the institution or faculty to which the thesis was presented (see 7.9.3) but in 7.9.3 it's granting

Re: [RDA-L] RDA Toolkit Price Change

2013-12-03 Thread Cindy Wolff
Really? Has anyone out there in the industry even noticed? What *might* get noticed is a change in communication formats, but not in rules. This is what I have been thinking about for a while as I read these discussions: What if we gave a standard and nobody came, but some other powerful,

Re: [RDA-L] Faculty in 7.9.3.3

2013-12-03 Thread Thomas Berger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 03.12.2013 17:38, schrieb Heidrun Wiesenmüller: but the Fakultaet fuer Agrarwissenschaften would be an example of a faculty. It's definitely a faculty, but does it fit the text of the instruction: the granting institution or faculty?

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designator for corporate creator

2013-12-03 Thread Finnerty, Ryan
Hi Adam, What if you have an entity that has multiple roles, one at the creator level and the other at another level (e.g. author and publisher)? Would it be acceptable to use relationship designator for both roles in a 1XX, like this: 110 2_ Geological Survey (U.S.), $e author, $e

Re: [RDA-L] Relationship designator for corporate creator

2013-12-03 Thread M. E.
Finnerty, Ryan rfinne...@ucsd.edu wrote: What if you have an entity that has multiple roles, one at the creator level and the other at another level (e.g. author and publisher)? Would it be acceptable to use relationship designator for both roles in a 1XX, like this: 110 2_ Geological