Re: [RE-wrenches] panel fire

2009-02-23 Thread Brian White
Jay, I am assuming that you are referring to their membrane / flat roof product, the roof tile is a standard laminate with a polymer frame. The membrane product is a lamination of (PVCDIBONDTEDLARCELLSETFE cover sheet) with all of the required adhesives and EVA. The membranes have been

Re: [RE-wrenches] panel fire

2009-02-23 Thread jay peltz
HI Brian, thanks for the clarification. I wasn't assuming they were the product on this roof, but the size and construction seem similar, jay peltz power On Feb 23, 2009, at 11:00 AM, Brian White wrote: Jay, I am assuming that you are referring to their membrane / flat roof product,

Re: [RE-wrenches] panel fire

2009-02-23 Thread Brian White
Phone: 530-273-2948 Cell: 530-575-5550 e-mail: bri...@eagleroofing.com mailto:bri...@eagleroofing.com From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org on behalf of jay peltz Sent: Mon 2/23/2009 12:33 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] panel fire

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-14 Thread penobscotsolar
-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Joel Davidson Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:01 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire There are good people who make and teach other people how to make solar modules

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-13 Thread Allan Sindelar
Michael, Last night I sent the message below to the contact email for the chapel, and got their response. I would like to forward this to the list, in order to guide our collective behavior. How do you advise that I proceed? Allan -Original Message- Hi gang. Contact me off list if any

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-13 Thread Joel Davidson
- From: William Miller To: RE-wrenches Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire Friends: Michael makes a good point about privacy. As much as we all want to get this out in the open so that maybe we can prevent the installer form burning down

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-13 Thread Tump
- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Joel Davidson Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:01 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire There are good people who make and teach other people how to make solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-13 Thread Tump
] On Behalf Of Allan Sindelar Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:15 AM To: al...@positiveenergysolar.com; 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire Wrenches, OK, so this went out to the list by mistake. Where's the unsend button when I need it? By reading on, you can see that I intended to ask

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-12 Thread Engineering Services Co.
) the address of this system? 2) the installer? See http://www.marriagetogo.com/homeoffice.html - Original Message - From: Michael Welch To: 'RE-wrenches' Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire This seems corroborating. It has GOT to be the same

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-12 Thread Jeff Yago
The other day a guy rented a warehouse near a business friend of mine and he went over to say Hi. My friend later told me this guy told him he was planning to "build" solar pvmodules that he was going to sell and install.Although my friend was no engineer and didn't really know what to look for,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-12 Thread Michael Welch
Hi gang. Contact me off list if any questions or concerns. We can probably find these folks' home and their system if we want to, we are very close. But they have gone to lengths to protect household privacy, so please let's not make it public here.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-12 Thread Geoff Greenfield
) the address of this system? 2) the installer? See http://www.marriagetogo.com/homeoffice.html - Original Message - From: Michael Welch To: 'RE-wrenches' Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire This seems corroborating. It has GOT

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-12 Thread Joel Davidson
of the Rahus Institute, etc. See http://www.rahus.org/ and many more well-informed, good people around the world. - Original Message - From: Matt Lafferty To: jry...@netscape.com ; 'RE-wrenches' Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire + DIY Ebooks

2009-02-12 Thread Dan Fink
Hi all -- Thought I'd better chime in now. We are going to start seeing a lot of this (fires, electrocutions, lawsuits), and RE Wrenches are going to have to be aware of it and be prepared for repair calls, consulting, and even expert witness court testimony. Since besides private RE

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire + DIY Ebooks

2009-02-12 Thread Wind-sun.com
/ .. - Original Message - From: Dan Fink dan...@hughes.net To: RE-wrenches re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire + DIY Ebooks Hi all -- Thought I'd better chime in now. We are going to start seeing a lot of this (fires

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-12 Thread William Miller
Friends: Michael makes a good point about privacy. As much as we all want to get this out in the open so that maybe we can prevent the installer form burning down more houses, any action has to be taken by the home owner. I am wondering if Wind-Sun, who hosts the user site on which the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread William Miller
Dear Wind-Sun: The incident described on your forum is very Interesting and scary. It is impossible to make any definitive conclusions from the vague information provided, but here are a few things that got my attention: --If I could detect, from the before photos provided, a first rate

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread Bill Brooks
-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:57 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire Dear Wind-Sun: The incident described on your forum is very Interesting and scary. It is impossible to make any definitive conclusions from

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread Bill Brooks
: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire Dear Wind-Sun: The incident described on your forum is very Interesting and scary. It is impossible to make any definitive conclusions from the vague information provided, but here are a few things that got my attention: --If I could detect, from the before photos

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread Wind-sun.com
: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire The last post on your discussion forum, from the person identified as BB, looks the most likely. The modules were large (250 W), corner mounted, with plastic (instead of glass) glazing. The panels were able to flex under wind load, and damage the internal

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread Travis Creswell
PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire At the very least, it shows a good reason to not use any of those off-brand (or no brand) cheap unlisted panels that have been floating around lately

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread Allan Sindelar
One detail I haven't heard mentioned yet and am curious about - the photo of the fire damage appears to show the corner of another west(?)-facing array. I find it curious that the system owner described a 2 kW system made up of eight 250W(!) modules, which are clearly visible in the topmost system

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread Brian Sipp
the lack of detail that the poster is giving about the panels, location, installer/supplier, existence of another array etc. --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com wrote: From: Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire To: 'RE

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread Michael Welch
...@positiveenergysolar.com wrote: From: Allan Sindelar al...@positiveenergysolar.com Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire To: 'RE-wrenches' re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 12:57 PM One detail I haven't heard mentioned yet and am curious about - the photo of the fire damage

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread Ken Schaal
, 2009 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire This seems corroborating. It has GOT to be the same situation: http://www.examiner.com/x-432-Wedding-and-Marriage-Examiner~y2009m2d10-Our-wedding-anniversary-like-a-house-on-fire-literally Search the page for solar to get to the crux

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread Christopher Freitas
Michael - it gets worse - if you look at the bottom of the website with the story about them having to leave Disneyland to run back to there house which was on fire - there are some links to related items: For more info: Screamin' is right: my favorite ride at the park Traditional

Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire

2009-02-11 Thread Wind-sun.com
Discussion Forum: http://www.wind-sun.com/ForumVB/ .. - Original Message - From: Brian Sipp To: 'RE-wrenches' Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Panel Fire