DC School Voucher Program Ended By Congress

2009-03-11 Thread Friedman, Howard M.
The 2009 Omnibus Appropriations Act that Congress has just passed (passed the Senate yesterday) effectively kills the controversial D.C. school voucher program by imposing conditions on its extension beyond this year that are unlikely to be met. Details on Religion Clause blog:

Re: Connecticut bill

2009-03-11 Thread SAMUEL M. KRIEGER
Just for the sake of perspective on the proposed Connecticut legislation, I would welcome any comments on Section 200 of the New York Religious Corporations Law (codified in Article 10 applicable to Other Denominations - including Jewish Congregations ) compared to sub- sections (e) and

Re: Connecticut bill

2009-03-11 Thread Will Linden
I have plenty of comments on it, as an officer of one of the other churches, after the court seemed to contrive a new hoop for us to jump through every week; but they probably would not get past the moderator. We're from the government, we're here to protect you. (Ironically, our church

Religious attitudes towards self-defense, deadly and otherwise

2009-03-11 Thread Volokh, Eugene
I'm looking for good sources that discuss religious attitudes towards self-defense or defense of others, deadly and otherwise; in particular, I'm looking to see whether there are religious groups that (1) take the view that deadly force is always bad, even in self-defense or defense of others,

RE: Connecticut bill

2009-03-11 Thread Friedman, Howard M.
To the extent that the entire NY Religious Corporations Law is mandatory, as opposed to merely default provisions that apply in the absence of contrary rules in the organization's charter or bylaws, I think there are serious constitutional issues with very many of the internal governance

RE: Connecticut bill

2009-03-11 Thread Marc Stern
In New York, a religious institution is generally permitted to register under the secular not for profit corporation law. From: religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu [mailto:religionlaw-boun...@lists.ucla.edu] On Behalf Of Friedman, Howard M. Sent: Wednesday,

NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-11 Thread Douglas Laycock
Perhaps these separate provisions were originally negotiated with leaders of each faith group, attempting to provide what each group wanted. Even so, there is a high likelihood they got it wrong, or that orther institutions within the same faith group wanted, or now want, something

NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-11 Thread Douglas Laycock
So that's the escape route. Makes sense that there had to be one. Quoting Marc Stern mst...@ajcongress.org: In New York, a religious institution is generally permitted to register under the secular not for profit corporation law. From:

RE: NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-11 Thread Marc Stern
Doug is right about the origins of NY's church incorporation law. There was a formal effort to change the whole structure about 20 years ago, but it got hung up mostly, as I recall, by the problem of making the transition from old law on which there were substantial reliance interests to a

Re: NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-11 Thread hamilton02
The question here is whether you can satisfy the rule against judicial oversight of ecclesiology and permit the states to serve their legitimate interest in overseeing those that obtain corporation status. Religious entities need and/or want to be able to operate with the benefits of a

Re: NY Religious Corporations Law

2009-03-11 Thread SAMUEL M. KRIEGER
Marc and Marci - If a congregation registers under the Not for Profit Corporation law , does that thereby allow ecclesiastical decisions to be subject to approval by lay governance or review by the courts? Are we elevating form over substance?? Can the lay board of directors direct that